*Intro from a thread where the flame war didn't really belong*
Few points here, a person asked what some GOOD GUILDS were to join, and you people turn it into yet another pvp flame war. Yay. *gets out the pompons*
Next, I will address a few of the points made in this thread where it belongs in the PvP thread, since it is off topic and hijacking here.
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There are a lot of females, young people and whatnot playing this game now, and reading these boards, and I personally am sick and tired of having to read things like 'no sack' and the intolerable crap that takes place in anything involving pvp just because you guys can't put together a coherent statement that gets your point across while still having the intelligence to be rude without degrading the whole thing.
I pvp, so telling me 'don't read it then' is asinine to the highest degree because something that happens in fel affects me. The guilds that come and go, the alliances that join and fall affect me and my game time.
Now, antagonizing waka because they're in the 3F alliance? Get over it. Waka is in it not because they have to have 3F's support, but because they are FRIENDS with 3F and they RESPECT 3F. Novel concept I'm sure, but sheesh, try it sometime. S1N is no more, ISO is returning, sort of...EFL is somewhere...Who cares, handle your own guilds, and stop whining.
As far as raiding, myself on an R1Z guilded character and a friend on an OKPK guilded char were SOLOING a spawn in T2A, and we had people scout it, but instead of raiding two, count them, 2! people, they chose to raid 3+ EFL at despise. Figure that one out, we're still laughing about it.
Also, for all of you that want to talk about alliances and whatnot, take a look at WTF? and see how many of you have alts in it that are talking crap, and how many of you have lost guildmates to this guild, when you all could have done the SAME thing without having to have the support of a cross-sharded guild of red necros, but oh wait...ha. yeah. anyway.
*/endrant*