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New Trainable Pet: Triton

Pawain

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After testing it on TC I grew an affinity for the way it looks.

I call it a Garden Slug.
 
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Will these be a limited availability pet or a forever more? Debating on upgrading my accounts to High Seas and this would make the decision relatively easy.
 

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Will these be a limited availability pet or a forever more? Debating on upgrading my accounts to High Seas and this would make the decision relatively easy.
We do not know yet. Do not know if it will be from the Cargo turn in or a new item chance from a boss on High seas.
But I am having fun without it as a reward.
 

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My thoughts exactly!
I do hope it is just a placeholder sprite they put in just to keep from spoiling the real artwork. Wouldn't that be nice
And the final product..Surprise surprise..It is rideable, and shaped like a seahorse..and not a slimy toothless mudpuppy like creature!
And then I woke up..:)
 

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And the final product..Surprise surprise..It is rideable, and shaped like a seahorse..and not a slimy toothless mudpuppy like creature!
And then I woke up..:)
surprise is a water mount only usable in the water and it looks like a dolphin and if a gargoyle dismounts u at sea u die :O
 

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From the meet and greet:

Lord Bytor says: Is there an eta on the Kitchen set or the Triton ?

EM Faine Morgan says: (she's saying I'm old)

Lord Bytor says: heh

Mesanna says: next month I believe


Kyronix did not respond. But the Queen says next month.
 

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Well if it is coming out next Month, it would be smuggled cargo points. I was worried it would be a Corgul drop.
 

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Still no idea how to get it right? Could be turn in points or something else.
The chiloc files updates (which were available on our website before the patch went live) pointed to it being a reward bought from the vendor requiring Grandmaster tamer. You also need high seas to activate the pet or be traded the pet and it cannot be released and retamed because it poofs.

Of course the developers have been known to change their mind, but it could be assumed this is still their intent.
 

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They want to tease us with monthly items so we keep doing it. I still need more Parrots so Im fine.

They are saving the Whips for LAST. @Keith of Sonoma

Glad it will be from points. Now we need to find out what Corgul will drop. Whips? hehe
 

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They want to tease us with monthly items so we keep doing it. I still need more Parrots so Im fine.

They are saving the Whips for LAST. @Keith of Sonoma

Glad it will be from points. Now we need to find out what Corgul will drop. Whips? hehe
DANG YOU! You just HAD to bring it up! *thinks to self, something about pouring salt in an open wound* :)
 

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Too bad Triton doesn't look like a parrot.
Now that would be a pet I would work for.


Maybe they are seeing how many crates are being turned in for doubloons to figure out how to price the Triton (and whips)~
 

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I think they are more just worrying what amount to set that won't get a bunch of folks threatening
to quit because they don't like the points set.

Whips are better for this and don't make it stupid expensive. Folks are going to want
a lot of whips if they plan to use them. So if they do make it expensive, then it should
be for a recipe to make each type of whip.

I would love love love the Triton to be had from a SOS chest pulled from a 100 plus fisherman,
odds going up incremently to 120 skill fishing.

Or go the sea boss route, either is better than making one cost a million points or more.
 

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The chiloc files updates (which were available on our website before the patch went live) pointed to it being a reward bought from the vendor requiring Grandmaster tamer. You also need high seas to activate the pet or be traded the pet and it cannot be released and retamed because it poofs.

Of course the developers have been known to change their mind, but it could be assumed this is still their intent.
They also said in the recent Meet and Greet that Tritons will be bought with doubloons.
Refused to name the price. If I'd had to bet, I'd say 500k to 1M probably
 

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I think I have the main guys I use covered.

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Need 2 more extras maybe 3.

Archer in EC. He a Pirate.
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Grace of Minoc

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They did mention that they were going to update drops for sea bosses.

If not a Triton, hopefully something as good or better!
 

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From the meet and greet:

Lord Bytor says: Is there an eta on the Kitchen set or the Triton ?

EM Faine Morgan says: (she's saying I'm old)

Lord Bytor says: heh

Mesanna says: next month I believe


Kyronix did not respond. But the Queen says next month.
I figured she just saw the Kitchen Set and said yes.

But Dot Warner says next month with a title and merman statue. 1.2M Doubloons for Triton.
 

Khaelor

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Look for our triton training guide and ideas later today on our guild website.
 

Laura_Gold

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Y'all going to remove all stats taken from test center which might be irrelevant now?
 

Khyro

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Y'all going to remove all stats taken from test center which might be irrelevant now?
Nope. All stats in the bestiary are based on the last implementation of the Triton when it left Test Center. If they did decide to change it behind the scenes before release then we will update accordingly.
 

Khyro

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Popped 10 Tritons on Europa. Their spawn range is unchanged.

Here is a quick summary of what we saw:

6 of 10 were over 120 Wrestling (128.3 was the Highest).
3 of 10 were between 115 and 120 Wrestling
1 of 10 was below 115 Wrestling (113.8 was the lowest).

189.9 was the highest Resisting Spells seen.

Intensity ranged from 29% to 72%. Intensity rating can swing wildly on these due to the overcapped skills. I recommend not dismissing a pet until you put it into the planner to see what it can become.

For example, here is a 29% Triton planner: Saved Planner | uo-cah.com

Here is what a 72% can become: Saved Planner | uo-cah.com

Looking forward to seeing what others come up with. Lots of build potential on these.
 

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I've never had a pet poppin out of a statue so 1 question comes to mind...as soon as it gets out will it be bonded???? I dunno where but i read somethng about vollems (they do comes out of statues too if im correct) being dispelled on the battlefield and not being replaced by the devs, can we incur in the same kind of issue? Thank you to everyone, im gonna buy some statues :D


P.S. Of course the rng god plagues me as always... popped 4 statues and got 37.17%, 37.49%, 47.64% and 63.35%, useless to say that none of them is good to be trained into Chiv/AI/FWW :(
 
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If you release one, does it go poof or does it hang around feral or does it turn back into a statue?
Can you pet-vendor one?
Can you lore a statue?
 

SouthPaw

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I don't have high seas; is 140,000 doubloons a lot? Does that take a long time to get?

Looks like if you get one around 70% intensity or better that you can make quite the monster.
 

Pseudodragon

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To be honest 140k it's not bad at all, I was expecting something around 250. Doubloons are not super easy to farm and, if you have to buy the resources to shoot cannonballs, it's not even super cheap. I think that the actual rate is 1:100/1:110 doubloons/gold. What really slows you down during the farm is that find a beacon can be time consuming at times and also the clearing phase can be clunky. For what I've seen if you find a pet under the 70% intensity it's basically impossible to pull out the real monster unless you don't accept some compromises.
 

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It drops 1 mythical (10k doubloons) at its completion and 1 legendary (around 1k) once you defeat the whole crew if I'm correct. Furthermore you can get extra cargos as uncommon drop by defeating the orcish crew and the wandering mobs around the beacon.
 

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How many doubloons can you get on average from defeating a beacon?
Depends on how many High Seas accounts you have. 10k-ish doubloons with 1 account

I don't have high seas; is 140,000 doubloons a lot? Does that take a long time to get?

Looks like if you get one around 70% intensity or better that you can make quite the monster.
How long it takes depends on High Seas enabled accounts.

You don't need a 70%+ better one to be a monster. I would prefer to look at several stats over raw intensity, like you can have very high intensity but end up with under cap wrestling.
 

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Popped 10 Tritons on Europa. Their spawn range is unchanged.

Here is a quick summary of what we saw:

6 of 10 were over 120 Wrestling (128.3 was the Highest).
3 of 10 were between 115 and 120 Wrestling
1 of 10 was below 115 Wrestling (113.8 was the lowest).

189.9 was the highest Resisting Spells seen.

Intensity ranged from 29% to 72%. Intensity rating can swing wildly on these due to the overcapped skills. I recommend not dismissing a pet until you put it into the planner to see what it can become.

For example, here is a 29% Triton planner: Saved Planner | uo-cah.com

Here is what a 72% can become: Saved Planner | uo-cah.com

Looking forward to seeing what others come up with. Lots of build potential on these.
I popped 10 this morning. ZERO over 120 Wrestling. The highest was 118.6. :( Half were less than 115 Wrestling Good thing I stocked up on points/chests before I quit doing beacons!
 

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Hmmm i did pop a 63.35 and, if you take some compromises, you can fit Chiv/Ai/FWW. Its not an absolute monster but it will be probably better than many tamables out there. For sure any tritons with overcapped wrest/resist will make a stunning Chiv/Ai pet no matter what
 

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I can finally start freeing some space up in my house again sooo many cargos stored expecting these to be so much more then 140k. I was expecting around 250k or more.
 

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The chiloc files updates (which were available on our website before the patch went live) pointed to it being a reward bought from the vendor requiring Grandmaster tamer. You also need high seas to activate the pet or be traded the pet and it cannot be released and retamed because it poofs.

Of course the developers have been known to change their mind, but it could be assumed this is still their intent.
".....and it cannot be released and retamed because it poofs."

And what if the pet goes "wild" as it has happened, sometimes, when fighting Monsters for other tamed pets ?

It is not a new thing to a tamer that one's own pet might go "wild" all of a sudden, and their pet needing to be retamed....

If this was to happen to a Triton is would go "poof" ?

This cannot be....
 

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".....and it cannot be released and retamed because it poofs."

And what if the pet goes "wild" as it has happened, sometimes, when fighting Monsters for other tamed pets ?

It is not a new thing to a tamer that one's own pet might go "wild" all of a sudden, and their pet needing to be retamed....

If this was to happen to a Triton is would go "poof" ?

This cannot be....
All the pets that start as statues go poof if they are released or go wild.

Have you ever seen a wild Rainbow Unicorn running around Luna?
 

SouthPaw

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I have never even once had any of my pets go wild on me, and I've had a lot of pets across 2 tamers. If you have pets going wild on you, then you're likely doing it wrong.
 

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Popped 10 Tritons on Europa. Their spawn range is unchanged.

Here is a quick summary of what we saw:

6 of 10 were over 120 Wrestling (128.3 was the Highest).
3 of 10 were between 115 and 120 Wrestling
1 of 10 was below 115 Wrestling (113.8 was the lowest).

189.9 was the highest Resisting Spells seen.

Intensity ranged from 29% to 72%. Intensity rating can swing wildly on these due to the overcapped skills. I recommend not dismissing a pet until you put it into the planner to see what it can become.

For example, here is a 29% Triton planner: Saved Planner | uo-cah.com

Here is what a 72% can become: Saved Planner | uo-cah.com

Looking forward to seeing what others come up with. Lots of build potential on these.
@Khyro

The main noticeable differences that I can see between the 29% Intensity one vs. the 72% intensity is that the higher intensity Triton can also get a 120 Ninja Scroll and thus have the additional Special Move Frenzied Whirlwind... which is quite a bonus over the 29% Intensity Triton....

The lower intensity one, though, has higher Dexterity, 194 vs 152, more Hits, 750 vs 677 and more Mana with 544 (int 362) vs 450 (int 368) of the higher intensity Triton...

QUESTION. How come that the lower intensity Triton's lower Int (362 vs 368) gives higher Mana (544 vs 450) when comparing it to the Higher Intensity Triton ?

I also do not understand.... Why the lower intensity Triton gets better dexterity, more hits and more mana versus the higher intensity Triton ?

Furthermore, the higher intensity Triton comes with 122.5 Wrestling versus the 124.4 Wrestling of the lower intensity Triton as well as less Resisting Spells with 177.2 versus the 176.4 of the lower intensity Triton....

As in regards to resists, the higher Intensity Triton has 80 Fire vs. the 75 of the lower Intensity Triton,57 Cold vs, 61, 60 vs 62 Poison and 88 vs 87 Energy. Physical is the same at 80 for both.

It is really WEIRD because, at first sight, looking only at the stats and NOT at the total intensity and overall trainable potential, one could almost conclude that the 29% Intensity Triton was a better one as the 72% intensity Triton....

How many players will get confused and misguided by that "first look" at the stats and wrongly conclude that a Triton is a bad one while it is instead a good one, and a "good looking" Triton is instead, in the end, a bad one ?

Lastly, given the numbers as you presented from the 2 planners, is it possible to figure out which would do better in combat ?

That is, having the extra skill of Ninja and that extra special move of Frenzied Whirlwind will defintively make the 72% Triton a much better fighter even though several of its stats are inferior to those of the 29% Intensity Triton ?
 

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I have never even once had any of my pets go wild on me, and I've had a lot of pets across 2 tamers. If you have pets going wild on you, then you're likely doing it wrong.
I have heard it several times of Tamers having their pet go wild while in the middle of a combat....

Sometimes it was also due to disconnect or server down and the pet not being stabled properly, whatever.... thing is, that the pet went wild....

What if this will happen with Tritons ?
 

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I have heard it several times of Tamers having their pet go wild while in the middle of a combat....

Sometimes it was also due to disconnect or server down and the pet not being stabled properly, whatever.... thing is, that the pet went wild....

What if this will happen with Tritons ?
They go poof.

I lost a windrunner when I died and it was killed by a Mob while I was going to get ressed. The body was there but no ghost pet.

I put in a bug report and bought a new one. That's how the game works.

I feel no pet should go wild now. But, I have opinions on most things in UO.

The windrunner in my siggy is in pixel heaven.
 
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