Nonetheless, it still is upsetting ain't it ?
And since it is not a novelty that pets CAN go wild for a number of reasons....
What can we expect with Tritons then ?
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And since it is not a novelty that pets CAN go wild for a number of reasons....
What can we expect with Tritons then ?
And how will their Master Tamers (and players) react to that, if I may ask ?
Too bad that once the current Timeline will end up, in December, I understand that Tritons will NO LONGER be obtainable so, the only way to replace a Triton gone "poof" for some ackward game occurrance, will be to purchase one from some other player who, I understand, will need to have a STATUETTE, untouched, from which to claim that new Triton, because they cannot be transferred from tamer to tamer, I understand ?
SouthPaw
Lore Master
Triton's can be transferred between players.
It is extremely unlikely that any of your pets will "go poof." Most tamers have never had that happen to them. Pawains experience (which I assume happened quite awhile ago) with a windrunner is NOT a common occurrence. I just want to make this point clear to anyone reading this who has recently returned to the game or thinking of returning to the game or thinking about making a tamer, that our pets are NOT randomly going wild or disappearing. That is not an issue to be concerned about at all as long as the pet is bonded.
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They are completely different builds. Those are not the "spawn" stats of the Tritons when popped from the Statue, those are fully trained pets that went different specs and took different liberties with their builds. It was 2 examples of how different rated Tritons could spec should one chose to do so in that manner. Frenzied Whirlwind takes 600 extra training points (plus another 100 to scroll the Ninjitsu), which is why the spec'd 29% Triton appears to have "higher" stats.
Don't take this the wrong way, but you do not seem to understand pet intensity or spawn ranges, yet you are hitting multiple forums advocating for changes in a system for which you are still learning and confused by.
Pet Intensity is taken from a combination of all stats, skills, and abilities a pet has. This means that a lower % pet may very well have a higher stat or skill than a higher intensity pet, but over the entire pet, the higher intensity pet will have more stats/skills at higher values than the lower intensity pet at spawn/creation.
Honestly, probably just one that I can think of...
This comes with experience in the Taming system. Frenzied Whirlwind is an AOE ability and is good for content with lots of enemies, but also does moderate single target damage. Armor Ignore is better for single-mob encounters (bosses), where you need to do high single-target damage. The combination of FWW and AI on that build is something various people want to play with since it is not something other pets can easily get due to other starting abilities or lack of intensity.
They fixed that bug with statue summoned pets being dispellable, but it wasn't retroactive. Summoned pets (Paroxy Swampy, Grizzled Mare) that were spawned before the fix patch, can still be dispelled.I've never had a pet poppin out of a statue so 1 question comes to mind...as soon as it gets out will it be bonded???? I dunno where but i read somethng about vollems (they do comes out of statues too if im correct) being dispelled on the battlefield and not being replaced by the devs, can we incur in the same kind of issue? Thank you to everyone, im gonna buy some statues
P.S. Of course the rng god plagues me as always... popped 4 statues and got 37.17%, 37.49%, 47.64% and 63.35%, useless to say that none of them is good to be trained into Chiv/AI/FWW
Chiv+AI+FWW is an ineffective build. That's a pet that doesn't know if it wants to be single target or AoE, and doesn't perform either very well. With FWW, you want a pet that can wade into a whole group of mobs and start AoEing. Chiv is bad for that, due to increased damage taken because of EoO and Divine Fury.
There used to be monsters that could make pets go wild, Dragons in particular were vulnerable to it. Serpentine Dragons had the ability to make any Dragon type pet go wild. Skeletal Dragons had the ability to make any pet go wild. Both were changed to having a 20% chance to deal triple melee damage to a pet instead. Crimson Dragons (the event mob) still has the ability to make pets go wild though, last i saw.
@PlayerSkillFTW
That's a very interesting point of view....
So, you would prefer to make 2 Tritons, for example, a Triton (A) with Chivalry, Armor Ignore and what else to specialize on single, very tough high end Bosses and then "another" Triton (B) with Ninja, Frenzied WhirlWind and what else to specialize on taking on large groups of Mobs ?
But then, what about those spawns, like Champ Spawns, which start with a large group of MoBs but end with a Boss ?
At that point, neither (A) nor (B) would be "fit" for such a type of spawn, would it ?
Indeed...
Some links refreshing the memory to those Tamers who may have forgotten how pets can go wild all of a sudden....
What makes a bonded pet go wild overnight?
WARNING do not give a follow command while riding tamer pets.
think i lost my pet
Lost Bonded Packy
Pets Unbonding & Skill Loss.
Warning Pets lost at sea
Mystery of the disappearing pets...
Greater Dragon Training
New Changes and stats
Note to self on Pre-Pub Pets
It is no novelty that pets in Ultima Online have been going wild, for one reason or the other, as you well pointed out and remembered....
I'm going to agree that chiv fww/at isn't a very effective spec in practice, though it would sound appealing in theory.
A pet who has already mana dumped without chiv and with max regens can cast about 8 armor ignores per minute.
Adding chiv to that pet and it's down to approximately 5 per minute.
Now you have healing and fww added into that and it becomes a bloated spec.
You can give it a rather large mana pool so you have more often used abilities...in the beginning... but that mana will be gone in under two minutes.
Some of my more interesting triton specs have yet to be mentioned here
A pet who has already mana dumped without chiv and with max regens can cast about 8 armor ignores per minute.
Adding chiv to that pet and it's down to approximately 5 per minute.
Now you have healing and fww added into that and it becomes a bloated spec.
You can give it a rather large mana pool so you have more often used abilities...in the beginning... but that mana will be gone in under two minutes.
Some of my more interesting triton specs have yet to be mentioned here
pets do not randomly go wild, if they did it's incredibily rare.
The fact of the matter is, It's easier to blame a game and the devs than to take accountability for yourself and that you may have done something to cause your pet to go wild. Such as, out of line of sight/staying invised, spamming commands, etc.
SouthPaw
Lore Master
The only time I know of pets going wild is when players were skill training pets unattended, running scripts, etc. and didn't feed pet or give any pet commands over the course of several hours. You do that kind of crap and you get what you deserve.
@popps, just some general stratics message board advice. Check the dates on posts you read. The game changes often and posts that are older than a year or 2 (sometimes less) are usually no longer relevant.
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I tested my bad ass Triton on TC. I agree exactly.
But I build pets and hope they do the things they should at the right time.
I will defiantly make as many varieties as I can.
A AI/FWW/Chiv Triton is a must have pet!
if I pop the statue in tokuno does the triton then count as a tokuno spawned pet and gain bushido and ninjitsu training capabilities?
SouthPaw
Lore Master
I doubt it considering the pet statue doesn't originate in Tok.
I'm curious about the discussion to FWW or to not FWW on a higher intensity one. I popped mine as soon as I got home, he had:
Which I was really, really pleased with so I jumped over to the planner:
So the points are there for the FWW / Ninja addition. But should I? Going to save mine until I get more scrolls so maybe some folks work it out. I also considered (as shown) bumping cold to 70 and leaving the poison at 45 with the intent of possibly hunting cu for farming.
Any of you speedy (or retired) tamers train an FWW one up and put it through its paces yet?
Which I was really, really pleased with so I jumped over to the planner:
So the points are there for the FWW / Ninja addition. But should I? Going to save mine until I get more scrolls so maybe some folks work it out. I also considered (as shown) bumping cold to 70 and leaving the poison at 45 with the intent of possibly hunting cu for farming.
Any of you speedy (or retired) tamers train an FWW one up and put it through its paces yet?
Congratz on such a fine specimen on your first born!
Personally, I think giving more than two things to do besides the healing is confusing to a pet and ends
up all over the place with its arsenal/defense and often not at the right time.
Alas, I have not tested anything with this new pet like that. Only speaking from other pets that were
given more than 3 in total things to rotate thru.
Personally, I think giving more than two things to do besides the healing is confusing to a pet and ends
up all over the place with its arsenal/defense and often not at the right time.
Alas, I have not tested anything with this new pet like that. Only speaking from other pets that were
given more than 3 in total things to rotate thru.
Keep it and pop some others.
I got this:
78.86% with 128.8 wrestling.
Saved Planner | uo-cah.com
The HP is too high. Need a ratio of HP/STR at a lower value.
Right now it may make a beastly AI/Chiv. can add other stuff also.
Our triton training guide is available on our website now. Triton Training Guide | uo-cah.com
We will be adding additional builds to it in the upcoming days
We will be adding additional builds to it in the upcoming days
That's a pretty bold statement. It has been reported by a number of competent players. I lost one pet and caught two others in time. For various reasons, it is quite possible for a pet to go from perfectly happy to unhappy in minutes. If you are fighting a bunch of mobs, it is also quite possible for you not to notice it disobeying an order. A repeated order would send it over the edge. Just because it never happened to you does not mean it does not happen or that the pet owner is clueless.
That is what I am trying to point out....
And when it will happen to a high-end Triton, that perhaps took time and gold to train up or, worse, to purchase already trained up, "how" will that player feel, to see it going "poof" ?
I do not think that such a player will be happy about that.....
I understand, from the great and very helpfull Triton Training Guide (thanks !!) Triton Training Guide | uo-cah.com , that Tritons can spawn :
Some quick notes on Triton spawn ranges:
Question is, are there stats that would be preferrable to see as high over others and, thus, to prioritize in order to determine whether a Triotn would be a "keeper" or a "let goer" ?
Which ones ?
Thanks !
Some quick notes on Triton spawn ranges:
- They spawn with overcapped Wrestling, ranging from 110 to 130 skill
- They spawn with overcapped Resisting Spells, ranging from 150 to 190 skill
- They spawn with overcapped Dexterity, ranging from 151 to 220
- They spawn with overcapped Energy Resist, ranging from 85 to 90 resist
- They spawn with innate Healing
- They are fully Magical capable
Question is, are there stats that would be preferrable to see as high over others and, thus, to prioritize in order to determine whether a Triotn would be a "keeper" or a "let goer" ?
Which ones ?
Thanks !
Why the 120 Ninja PS? I have similar build and want to know how many points to save for Power scrolls?
SouthPaw
Lore Master
Higher ninja skill effects the damage of FWW.
Welp I took it to test center...… I popped a statue in tokuno and yes bushido and ninjitsu are now available in the magical ability training list. I added ninjitsu to a triton then I sent to fight a macaw (a enemy with decent hp and not much of a threat) so I could see what it would do. It did the normal stuff a pet trained with ninjitsu does smoke bombs. I havent tried bushido but it looks like if u pop a triton statue in tokuno that allows u to do the tokuno specific magics on them
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Thats great! Now a real Bushido WW super pet! Now I have to do more beacons.Welp I took it to test center...… I popped a statue in tokuno and yes bushido and ninjitsu are now available in the magical ability training list. I added ninjitsu to a triton then I sent to fight a macaw (a enemy with decent hp and not much of a threat) so I could see what it would do. It did the normal stuff a pet trained with ninjitsu does smoke bombs. I havent tried bushido but it looks like if u pop a triton statue in tokuno that allows u to do the tokuno specific magics on them
I made 3. 1 with 126 wrestling. Other 2 will be given away. I named them Triton Tokuno so they will pic Bush or FWW.
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Yea, we noticed this when they hit live since we have houses in Zento. We actually reached out to the Devs about it to see if it was intended or not, because we didn't want to post about anything considered an exploit on our website. From what we were told, it's not considered an issue.Welp I took it to test center...… I popped a statue in tokuno and yes bushido and ninjitsu are now available in the magical ability training list. I added ninjitsu to a triton then I sent to fight a macaw (a enemy with decent hp and not much of a threat) so I could see what it would do. It did the normal stuff a pet trained with ninjitsu does smoke bombs. I havent tried bushido but it looks like if u pop a triton statue in tokuno that allows u to do the tokuno specific magics on them
We have actually been training a few Tritons with Bushido to make sure there was no issues with the Magical Ability, but testing so far shows it working as normal.
We were going to update our website with the information once I added a disclaimer to the Pet Planner so no one was confused by the sudden appearance of Bushido/Ninjitsu on the list of trainable magic abilities... I guess I should go finish that now
The information is in the Bestiary for the Triton right now, and I should have the planner updated with the disclaimer soon.
too bad they cant use the Bushido defense and Chiv.
But, we can make an AI/FWW that we could not make on a Hiryu. Sounds Tanky. Or can it also get Feint and those 2. Tanky but not full damage.
Well more options that make pets better than they start out.
But, we can make an AI/FWW that we could not make on a Hiryu. Sounds Tanky. Or can it also get Feint and those 2. Tanky but not full damage.
Well more options that make pets better than they start out.
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I did this too one tho
Wasn't bush nerfed at some point in the past? I recently tried a pet with that I built a year or two ago just for the purpose of tanking spawns. It has Bush/WW. It barely uses it. This thing is quite happy to die with a mana pool at 80%+. You see it evading and WW once in a blue moon, but it's rare enough to have little to no effect.
Sweet info!!Welp I took it to test center...… I popped a statue in tokuno and yes bushido and ninjitsu are now available in the magical ability training list. I added ninjitsu to a triton then I sent to fight a macaw (a enemy with decent hp and not much of a threat) so I could see what it would do. It did the normal stuff a pet trained with ninjitsu does smoke bombs. I havent tried bushido but it looks like if u pop a triton statue in tokuno that allows u to do the tokuno specific magics on them
I dunno to tell u the truth I ran it to the turtle spawn in eodon and wasn't having a problem I didn't have to heal it once and finished the first 2 lvls of the spawn. I didn't do the whole spawn cause its currently 12:27 and I need some sleep also dunno how it would handle turtle by itself but I know it would take awhile.
Ya Don and I were shooting all the possibilities back and forth of builds if you do Bush or Ninja.
Someone says they will not be able to use all that stuff at the right time. I said, the Lore screen will look cool tho.
And I still need 2 more high quality ones so I will be popping many that can be played with for fun.
Back to Beacons for me.
I finally got enough points to get 2 tritons, yay me. Work really slows me down.
So I popped both statues (really only planned one but figured to heck with it), and this is what I got....
I really like the STR of the 2nd one but was sad I lost the RNG rolls on wrestling. Not sure when I'll get another, might have to beg a friend for one
I'll probably keep the higher STR one and see what I can do for a build.
So I popped both statues (really only planned one but figured to heck with it), and this is what I got....
I really like the STR of the 2nd one but was sad I lost the RNG rolls on wrestling. Not sure when I'll get another, might have to beg a friend for one
I'll probably keep the higher STR one and see what I can do for a build.
Yea, we noticed this when they hit live since we have houses in Zento. We actually reached out to the Devs about it to see if it was intended or not, because we didn't want to post about anything considered an exploit on our website. From what we were told, it's not considered an issue.
We have actually been training a few Tritons with Bushido to make sure there was no issues with the Magical Ability, but testing so far shows it working as normal.
We were going to update our website with the information once I added a disclaimer to the Pet Planner so no one was confused by the sudden appearance of Bushido/Ninjitsu on the list of trainable magic abilities... I guess I should go finish that now
The information is in the Bestiary for the Triton right now, and I should have the planner updated with the disclaimer soon.
Hehe sorry about that I seem to keep adding random work to ur plate unintentionally
Both of those will make great AI/Chiv pets! Think about it, first round you set the STR to 700. One will get there the other wont. Now look at what both look like. You have two Cus on steroids at 3 slots!I finally got enough points to get 2 tritons, yay me. Work really slows me down.
So I popped both statues (really only planned one but figured to heck with it), and this is what I got....
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I really like the STR of the 2nd one but was sad I lost the RNG rolls on wrestling. Not sure when I'll get another, might have to beg a friend for one
I'll probably keep the higher STR one and see what I can do for a build.
You didn't show the Wrestling on the first one.
Oops, sorry about that. I thought I saved the fixed one not that bugged out one.
Here is the correct picture....
WOW! Are you sure that the first one is with wrestling of 100? The guide by @Khaelor at the uo-cah states that range is 110-130 for wres.. not 100? If your pet has 100 wres you need to let @Khaelor know so that he will update the stats range..I finally got enough points to get 2 tritons, yay me. Work really slows me down.
So I popped both statues (really only planned one but figured to heck with it), and this is what I got....
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I really like the STR of the 2nd one but was sad I lost the RNG rolls on wrestling. Not sure when I'll get another, might have to beg a friend for one
I'll probably keep the higher STR one and see what I can do for a build.
I would try to get a few more. The whole idea is for the overcast wres, and resists coupled with decent or 1/2 way decent training points. You can also buy a few ?1-2-3? statuettes and try your luck again if stressed for RL time. I did and mine came out with wres at 117-118 wres and I think 150-160 resists, decent hps, int of 67%. Give it another shot, and release or stash these if the stats you are posting are correct..
He put wrestling at 100..unless he forgot to put it, so there is hope for that one..Not supposed to be 100, lowest wres is supposedly 110, range 110-130. I hope he forgot to put it in, as he said he was tired and ready to go to bed at the time..
Look up. He put the correct Wrestling in. 114ish
Awww.. That still sucks badly. Defeats the purpose of having a pet like this. Would try to get more statuettes somehow.
Can get AI also,
SouthPaw
Lore Master
Just opened my 2nd Triton..in Tokono. He's only around 50% intensity but has 129.5 Wrestling, 177.0 Resist, 169 Dex. Just has low STR. When I saw the wrestling I was ecstatic.
Might try this: Saved Planner | uo-cah.com
May go with less int and more mana.
Otherwise just the standard AI/Chiv route-probably do that with the first Triton I got that has 113 wrestling.
Might try this: Saved Planner | uo-cah.com
May go with less int and more mana.
Otherwise just the standard AI/Chiv route-probably do that with the first Triton I got that has 113 wrestling.
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