Perhaps the better way to illustrate the point is that for its utility, necromancy (and necro mage) are far too expensive point wise. Most of the pets that can make use of it end up hobbled a bit compared to say Chivalry or Mystic.
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They should of just made it reduced penalties for higher spirit speak, to make things interesting 120 spirit speak = -5/-15/-5/-15/0
Then it would be nice when any pet could reach 5 slots.
I understand, but I think we're all also looking at where the mobs end up once fully trained, to try and avoid again having only 3 or 4 pets that you take out for anything other than show. I would love to take my tsuki wolf out with me fighting, or to actually build a necromage tsuki wolf, but compared with a fully trained beetle, or a few other mobs, he simply doesn't measure up. Same for the iron beetle and deathwatch beetle; compared with the giant and fire beetles, it simply doesn't make sense to use those as pets. Give the iron and deathwatch beetles the same 1>5 range, with poison damage on the deathwatch and energy or cold on the iron, and suddenly those would be quite viable pets.
Yes, Iron Beetles can go to 5 slots. But unlike Giant and Fire Beetles, they start at 2 slots. Even as a 1>5, they'd basically be a Giant Beetle without a backpack. That's why I suggest they be given a different damage type, to better differentiate them.
After testing on TC before pub 97, there is a reason they got bumped to 2 slot. The pack damage plus just adjusting couple things on first training gump, would allow people to instant kill others with five of them, same for the frenzied ostard. That's why they got moved up, I had five of them attack myself and would die before I even saw damage. LOL@Kyronix Hell hounds and Dire Wolves really should be 1/4, rather than the 2/4 they currently are. Hell hounds are one of few pets that could actually benefit from necro, but being 2 slots when wild makes them seriously, seriously underpowered 4 slot pets. Dire wolves are even worse. I know no one gives a rats ass about mid range max pets but... Please, my dude.
Perhaps make them 100% Energy damage.
Dex is capped at 150 once tamed.
No, it's not. You can't exceed imbuing 150 Dex on them, but I have several different pets with greater than 150 Dex. Tsuki wolf is one of them and my Naja is another.
Every Tsuki Wolf I've tamed, with as high as 195 dex, they all drop to 150 immediately upon taming.
then riddle me a little ditty about an animal called the Skree my friend!
My friend has one that was tamed 2 weeks ago and it remained with over 190 dex even tho in publish it says 190 dex is max useable dex.
Which is why natural 5 slotters with 125 dex needs to be reexamined. None of them are mountable and they are so slow that taking them anywhere can be a test of patience.
I know, and I think that these two specific pets and others mentioned are a good example of why (as is, anyway) the stat based method of determining slots isn't the best way to accurately represent the power level of the the pets.
I think every pet with the exception of maybe birds should be minimum 4 max slots. Most things can already get to 3 slots, and even at 2 slots a chicken or a rat can actually handle quite a bit, so even one level up completely breaks any sense of reality, so who cares? Let people have 4 slot deer and wolves and panthers.
No, they got moved up automatically by the code because they were given 30 points of necromancy/ss that they can't use. Like Kyronix said, pets aren't hard coded at a slot level.
That's not possible; "plus just adjusting couple things on first training gump" means that minimally they've been bumped +1 slot. If they're 1 slot to begin with (so you could have 5), then the most you could have would be 1 untrained one and 2 that had those couple of adjusted things.
Not exactly. BrianFreud/11 - Stratics Community Wiki | Stratics Community Forums There's a few with unknown #s, but assuming all the info's correct:
I was wondering why the Dread Warhorse who's stats really are NOT that much better than a Nightmare will change from 3 to 4 slots if I try to ruin it with training... not like he has anything "wonderful".... he blows a cloud if you say "trick" whoop-de-do-da.... Doesn't make it all that powerful.
I found a 249 hp 249 str tsuki. It has no room for scrolls. You cant get the str to 700 and have decent HP if you want to scroll it. Ki-rin is the male version, they also don't have enough HP.
I have one of those also. Less total points than a giant beetle and you cant ride it. It sits in the back of my stable.
I'm glad you love it so. Id like to see the lore pages. I bet you have no scrolls on it and if you do lets see those HP and STR. Every other magic can find a pet that can be fully scrolled and have 800HP, 700 STR, Mana regen 30, and 600 mana How does your Ram compare? Is Necro really that good that you need to sacrifice?
I'm horrified to hear you didn't put that Tsuki out of his misery the moment you found him! Tsuki's aren't great pet's if you are pvm only, necromancy and 190 dex are being heavily underestimated...
I love my Tsuki. He's decent enough for all but the end of Shadowguard. But he's kind of a pet version of a weak Sampire - he can stay alive near indefinitely, but he's lacking in the "umph" a final 1500 points would give him, which would take him from "I can survive near forever" to "I can kill high end stuff like a giant beetle".
Well... that is most things. 46 can't get to at least 3 slots, and 100+ that can.
i brought in another tamer and this is about half an hour into the fight.
a necro mage weaver just came to help too.
crazy hi HP on this thing.
i had to call it a night.
No. You can get a drop from any creature in the Sorcerer's Dungeon.Blehg... are the bosses the only way to get the halloween stuff? If so... R.I.P. my chances of getting any.
Thanks for the new lores
I ran through the dungeon last night with myself and 2 tamers. I think we cleared 4 or 5 minibosses and their spawn, then the pumpkin king. We got no items from any of the bosses (including the pumpkin king) - no Artifacts of Enchanted Origin, no deco items, just normal magical loot. All in total I got 20 Artifacts from the spawns, the tamer I grouped with got 7, and not sure about the other tamer. It's not a horrible drop rate, but we were the only 3 there.
Yes, the loot on the "mini bosses" and Jack DOES suck!
Just to clarify, I wasn't looking for Legendary Artifacts or super rare items off the bosses. When I asked for a guaranteed Artifact dropping from the bosses, I meant the Enchanted Origin artifacts. I am completely fine with the rest of the loot being a normal magical loot table
whats the damage type and resist page look like?
You do realize nothing in UO is real
That's cause the CU is probably the worst pet to use against that particular mini-boss. He has 85+ cold resist and 95-100 energy resist, which is the damage type of the CU. Hes low in fire so using a fire beetle or fire steed is the way to go. I mean if your a tamer and your not loring the enemies your not doing it right! HeHeHe
My goodness, ok then "close to real"!You do realize nothing in UO is real
