I believe mine was more in reference to inherent lmc, but as far as HLD and DCI, HLD needed tweaked awhile back. Though I'm not sure why they would botch DCI and RNG to do it.
To my mind the HLD/DCI changes and the inherent LMC thing share the same fundamental flaw.
Yeah you make a good point even though I do like the lmc thing *as long as they allow it to go over cap at least lol* I think a big part of the problem is how do you make nonmed armor attractive to people when mana is so important to so many templates even dexxer ones? I mean other then just making all armor medable and basically making armor little more then a cosmetic choice. I know some would be fine with that and to be honest I am starting to lean towards that too. But I still rather there be meaningful choices in armor not just what do you think looks good. I personally liked the halfmed idea a couple people mentioned on the first publish thread. But I am not sure if that would be even possible. Like someone else said it might be an on or off thing. I think as long as it is clearly displayed on the armor and in the character information the inherant lmc thing isn;t so bad. It is a little confusing yes but not near as bad as this dci/hld thing. That thing is just a mess and after reading Bleak's responses I have no idea why they even bothered with those changes.
Just make the 15 day trial account unlimited days with the same restrictions and you now have free to play. If you want anything else just pay your monthly fee like the rest of us. The only extra house you get is one on Siege or Mugen but not both. FIXED.You know what I would like to see!
Free to Play
Hear me out first! UO would recaputre retired players and entice new players. All free to play accounts can not place a house. To place a house its a 9$ month account upgrade. It gets better! You ccould also place a second house for a 3$ month account upgrade! And we dont stop there.... You can place as many houses as you like on as many shards as you like - 3$ a month per house after the first house (no house cap / no shard cap)
As a bonus for players that have 10 houses on one account will be giving the opportunity to lease the shard transfer house teleporter tile. Tile holds 3 transfers max per month and recharges monthly. Siege and Mugen players can transfer between themselves.
and I'd offer more chargers for accounts with 20, 25 and 30 houses....
I can dream a little
Spell Breaker
This really needs to get to Test Center so everybody can figure out WTF.
Bleak has already told us how it's supposed to work...If it works some way other than this I guess it's bugged but the point is that if it works as intended then very few like it.
Simple math can make people goWhat is it about the changes you find complex? Adding?
I suppose the complexity of second grade math can be quite mind blowing to some.
So what happens if a MOB has no HLD and you now have %95 DCI? I just filled a ton of BODs that all required Exp Studded Armor and I have a %96 chance to make them and I never failed once in around 1000 tries. The RNG loved me big time. Will a MOB or a Char without HLD ever be able to hit you with %95 DCI?
The follow up question would be what is your AR relative to the MOB's damage type and do you then get one hit killed because your 95DCI equates to a 5 AR rating?
If I have a %95 chance to defend and the RNG loves me every time will the MOB ever hit me? I defend everytime, doesn't that mean that I do not get hit at all?
The reason I asked was because as it sounds is that a player with a little love from the RNG could just walk around and never be hit. I want GOD mode. JK
I am down to 3 accounts now (Baja). Times are tough.
You're damn right I'm complaining. I'll need to see some patch notes that look like they come from someone who knows what UO is before I stop.
Speaking just for myself, I just want us to not overplay our hands. (I know you weren't responding to me but I said something not dissimilar.)
That's one of the things that worried me too...It seems to be a mechanic designed (unsuccessfully) with PvP in mind that'll end up impacting PvM more. Hence my great concern that folks will turn this into "PvPers vs these changes," as though they were the only ones and the rest of us were united against them.
Assuming the monster's wrestling is at the same level as the player's skill (100 vs 100), and given that the monster has 0 HCI:
Trust me, I didn't expect anything less.
The formula is:
Whatever dude, try crunching some numbers instead of "helping" by being a suck-up.
lol you mean adding? Or the even harder math, percentages? *GASP*
Go tell it to someone who gives a ****.
If you didn't, why are you replying to me?
In theroy your numbers look great but in UO your numbers have been proven wrong. You do understand that there is no Crafting RNG and a DCI RNG, UO uses one RNG. Using your numbers then at 45 DCI I should never get hit 2 times in a row and anybody that has played UO knows that not to be true. The RNG is rolled everytime you do anything and what happened the last time is never taken into account because if it was UO would never have let me make 1000 items in a row. I would have failed 40 times. The RNG is the RNG and some days it loves you and others it just hates your guts. So at 95 DCI the RNG only has a 1 in 4 chance of beating me and the very next swing by the MOB still has the same 1 in 4 chance. Nice odds if I do say so myself, and now we get to add HCI, DI and everything else into the mix on our side. And as someone else posted
in PvM could be even more powerful.
Nobody but sampires will notice. Everyone else will cry that sampires are overpowered anyway, while playing templates that can't die in PVM unless they go AFK.New Mobs with HLD, Armor Ignore and Repond Slayer vs Players.
Stratics has a great calculator here: http://uo.stratics.com/content/arms-armor/combat.php
I would like to see some NPCs who actually use the magic items that they carry.New Mobs with HLD, Armor Ignore and Repond Slayer vs Players.
You should rarely get hit two times in a row, it is not impossible (as never implies). Using the same criteria above (equal skill, 0 HCI), the probability of getting hit twice in any two hits at 45 DCI is 11.9% (=0.345*0.345), since they are not independant of one another. The probability of getting hit twice in a row at 45 DCI is 34.5% (=1*0.345), since "twice in a row" implies you were already hit once (which equates to 100%=1). There is a clear distinction between the two scenarios I described. Those two scenarios are both far from the 0% chance that "never" implies.
120 Sword/Tact/Ant %45 DCI and I have been hit by earth els and Mud Pies twice in a row a number of times and there have been times that I was never hit once.CAUTION: MATH AHEAD
You should rarely get hit two times in a row, it is not impossible (as never implies). Using the same criteria above (equal skill, 0 HCI), the probability of getting hit twice in any two hits at 45 DCI is 11.9% (=0.345*0.345), since they are not independant of one another. The probability of getting hit twice in a row at 45 DCI is 34.5% (=1*0.345), since "twice in a row" implies you were already hit once (which equates to 100%=1). There is a clear distinction between the two scenarios I described. Those two scenarios are both far from the 0% chance that "never" implies.
Mathmatically, the numbers are what they are. There is no theory involved in simple algebra. The hit chance calculations are designed around an RNG, which is assumed to be random. The system cannot be designed in any other fashion. If the RNG is not truely random and prone to streakiness (as in the case with UO's) then the math will appear to be wrong, when it is not. The problem would lie in the RNG, which is not part of this publish.
Given that the sacrifice to obtain 95 DCI is unknow, I will keep my hopes in check.
Stayin Alive,
BG
The initial revamp was nothing more then a sweeping warrior nerf(pvm & pvp)disguised as an armor overhaul.
Sometimes Mud Pies get lucky too. Their chance to hit a 120 Sword, 45 DCI character is improbable, not impossible. Tactics and Anatomy have no bearing on hit chance calculations. For simplicity, let's assume the Mud Pie has 75 Wrestling and the Shame Earth Elemental has 90 Wrestling. On any given swing, versus 120 Swords & 45 DCI character the Mud Pie has a 23.4% chance to hit, where as the elemental has a 27.1% chance to hit.
Mathmatical probabilities can never be "wrong", just varying degrees of success (or failure). Using the Hit Chance Formula, given a truely random number generator (which is not the case for UO), please show how these calculated probabilities (given below) are incorrect.
Stayin Alive,
You have 1 part of a formula that gives you a % and until we know how it was programed and where is the RNG taken into account? You haven't a clue and neither do I and for that matter I really do want to get back into that side of the house. I did this at the War College and we went so far as to (mocking up) playing "Thermal Nuclear War" instead of "A nice game of chess". Everybody walked out holding thier heads from the pain. And now we can throw in "Merphy's Law" into all this with a total random luck factor. We can agree to disagree because in all probability (pun intended) there is no right or wrong just a bunch of "please let me survive this encounter in UO" OooOooOooOoo
Chaos Dragoon elites use to be like this.... and I agree, their should be Many mobs that carry magic items, that should use them on you before it dies.
CAUTION: MATH AHEAD
You should rarely get hit two times in a row, it is not impossible (as never implies). Using the same criteria above (equal skill, 0 HCI), the probability of getting hit twice in any two hits at 45 DCI is 11.9% (=0.345*0.345), since they are not independant of one another. The probability of getting hit twice in a row at 45 DCI is 34.5% (=1*0.345), since "twice in a row" implies you were already hit once (which equates to 100%=1). There is a clear distinction between the two scenarios I described. Those two scenarios are both far from the 0% chance that "never" implies.
Mathmatically, the numbers are what they are. There is no theory involved in simple algebra. The hit chance calculations are designed around an RNG, which is assumed to be random. The system cannot be designed in any other fashion. If the RNG is not truely random and prone to streakiness (as in the case with UO's) then the math will appear to be wrong, when it is not. The problem would lie in the RNG, which is not part of this publish.
Given that the sacrifice to obtain 95 DCI is unknow, I will keep my hopes in check.
Stayin Alive,
BG
The math is the Vulcan side of Spock...unemotional...logical...specifically calculating.
), or cast a low level spell but sound as if I just had beans for breakfast lunch and dinner.
I agree, I too would not want to see the RNG backbone of UO. I am happy to have the hit chance formula and pray the Mighty RNG grants me her boon. UO RNG, Thou Art a Fickle Mistress.
I too have done OPFOR/OWNFOR analysis, I have felt the pain. All I can say is "thank goodness for batch analysis".
Why? Because there are streaks?
Yeah it really makes no sense. I think they need to just completely rethink the refinement thing. Though to be fair I do like the resist idea. I am just not sure if lowering the DCI cap is the way to go. Maybe more of if you raise one resist cap to 75 you have to take another to 65? But anyway I just think they need to rethink the whole thing.
Kind of giving away our age a little bit. Jimmy was greatest.
A few years ago the devs referred to the UO RNG as being on the level of a successful college student project, but not really professional level, and talked about replacing it. No idea where I'd find a link now, but I can't be the only one who remembers it.
Yes they talked about it but I bet they found out it was so inbedded in the old code that nobody wanted to touch it with a 10 foot pole.
or 1 ft pole depending on the RNG and how it is feeling.
