I have been to that site before and guess what, it still says the same thing. No FACTS were used in the making of this chart, only speculations.
I edited my original response to help you.
I'll just add one more thing, the kind of prejudice represented by statements like that one is far more dangerous on it's own than anything you will find in a full loot, wide open pvp MMO with free-for-all thieving.
The prejudices that you are referring to are the exact reason why Trammel was brought into existence to begin with. I would say that they are less prejudicial and more realistic.
EA HAS NEVER RELEASED ANY DATA ON ITS SUBS AND NEVER WILL FOR UO
Prejudices? No. Non-stop GM calls for harrassment have no prejudices. This occurred regardless of what was posted on a website.
It's not just a feeling.
There tend to be prejudices on every side, and I know I have a few myself. The best you can do is point them out when you spot them and try to show them for what they are. But I will say this, I don't see many "trammies" going on about "fellies", the vast majority of the prejudice that I have seen around this topic has come from pvp'rs who feel that their playstyle is somehow superior to everyone else's.
UO may be a fantasy game, but the emotions and attitudes associated with it are real. The pride, anger, love, etc. may not be over something that is terribly important, but they are real. The prejudice you displayed may be over something that is ultimately meaningless, but the prejudice itself was real. And who knows, if we can successfully combat prejudice in a game like UO, maybe we can take the lessons we learn in that fight into the "real world".
Thank You
I'm pretty sure I saw a post recently about someone playing an instrument in town being called "harassment"...
Yes, and please become as renowned as the author:
You can quit posting links for my sake. I'm not in the mood for a fiction read.
You do realize that EA does not publish subscription numbers for UO, and that those numbers are just estimates?
What they are doing is not playing with you. This is something you are going to have to come to terms with.
Read my post at the bottom of page 2.
You have no post at the bottom of page 2.
He links to 2 outdated sites, one with a chat based on a guess and the other with 7 posts whining about UO in its "Golden Age" and thinks he is an expert on UO.
Okay, lets go along with that. I'll ignore all logic and reason and give you the benefit of the doubt over a reputable source. So, you are saying that the sharp decline in subscriptions have somehow righted themselves in the past 2 +/- years? If so, you might be shocked with reality.
Why don't you enlighten us?He links to 2 outdated sites, one with a chat based on a guess and the other with 7 posts whining about UO in its "Golden Age" and thinks he is an expert on UO.
He was not there and has no clue what went on.
WHERE YOU THERE MISTER EXPERT?Why don't you enlighten us?
This should be good...
Was I where?WERE YOU THERE MISTER EXPERT?
Oh no I missed spelled a word. Lets hear all your preTram stories mister expert.
That's not what I said at all, LC. You aren't listen again, twisting other people's words. What I said is, you can't claim a source is accurate when the information is all based on estimates. The rest you are just making up, because we just don't know. Period.
In my opinion, the author of that website is about as accurate as you will get considering that EA doesn't publish their subscriber data to the public. So, you are only fooling yourself if you really believe he is that far off base.
LMAO I will rate Old Man of UO's accuracy at A++++++++++.
This is the biggest joke around. EA didn't tell him anything, he made it up.
What is? Calling the supposed report of UO by some website false? lol! Yeah, I don't believe those websites. If they honestly got those reports based off of what EA released then they should have no problem releasing the numbers themselves personally. But I don't care enough to create a pointless argument over it.
It is not his information to release. I would imagine that he would be considered a media entity by Origin/EA and others and as such he may have access to information that the normal public wouldn't have access to, and may very well be under an NDA to release specific details. But, as I said before, I can't convince anyone any more than I already have. If you choose not to believe his information, then that is your choice to make.
You really do believe what you just wrote.
Then why did he include the data in his chart? He released it.
A media entity, so what major network does he work for?
If you paid attention before jumping to conclusions, you would have noticed that he is self employed. He represents himself working for his own "company". The definition of media entity does not necessarily mean "major network". Get your facts straight.
Yes, I do. Do you? Apparently not.
What I wrote is purely speculative. I have no idea nor do I really care. I was giving an example of what could have happened for people who may not grasp the concept (such as yourself).I will state this again "You really do believe what you just wrote."
Make a guild. Tell other people to make guilds. Have the guilds ally or war against each other. Or just steal from your guildies. Problem solved. A real thief doesn't ask an authority to help them steal, hahaha. Oh man. That would be like me going up to a cop and being like, hey, hold that dude over there for me so I can steal his wallet.
Good luck.
Am I at your house twisting your arm or something?
Yes I was, and what I said still applies.
If you don't understand that one contract can be different from another, then I have nothing more to say.
No, you are attacking nearly everything that I am saying and forcing me to defend myself.
Carrots are about the only tool you have to get people to Fel. Aside from getting a new shard in which combines the two again, which would be fun.. I'd make a char there.
I agree, and that tool is about as useful as a spatula in a gun fight.
