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[Discussion] one of a kind robe

NewGuyATL

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So I was looking for some thoughts.. and also a general price check on this robe.



only one was given out, has a kind of neat history behind it from the new EM.

looking for some ideas, prices, thoughts.
 

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So I was looking for some thoughts.. and also a general price check on this robe.



only one was given out, has a kind of neat history behind it from the new EM.

looking for some ideas, prices, thoughts.
Whats the history behind it?
 

Faeryl

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If that was from last night... There's no neat history. I wasn't totally paying attention to what was going on, but I think people were asking EM Thomas to sign stuff for them or something...
 

NewGuyATL

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I mean its not THAT cool, but.. from what I've been informed the original owner gave the EM his ranger's cloak of augmentation and the EM ran around with it on for a minute or so, and when he returned the guys item he also gave him this robe signed by the new EM.

and, thanks but no thanks on a 25m offer. It's on atlantic as well.
 

Alexander of ATL.

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PS... i have a freind who told me that the EM said he will be making more of those, now he has been my freind for quite some time now so i have no reason to beleive he is lieing. I wasnt there myself so idk. If he is gonna make more, what will be the price range on this item? My freind in my guild also got one but instead of the word "Deathrobe" in the title is says "Signed by EM Thomas Pyewacket".

I offer 55mil for it, thx
 

NewGuyATL

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neat, but I think the reason that it's so cool is because it's a deathrobe.

atleast to me thats why its cool.

as for making more.. I won't base anything of hearsay, and I doubt he'd make more of the SAME item.. he might sign some more stuff, idk.
 

Apetul

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that's cool a EM creating unique items to everyone yay! :thumbup:
 

Angel Dust

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that's cool a EM creating unique items to everyone yay! :thumbup:
I dont see that as cool at all. This is a bad thing IMO. Whats to say this EM will abuse his powers and only do this for people he knows in game or IRL for personal gain? It was also stated by an ATL EM that they are not allowed to do this at all. Mesanna is asking about it for a reason I am sure. Also, isn't this the reason EMs only make signed clothing named same was as any tailor name would appear?
 

NewGuyATL

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I think the new EM was just trying to give a good impression.. or something.

doubt they'd abuse their powers hehe.
 

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Good impression for the ones he makes items for. Bad for ones he ignores. Very bad for an EM when Lead Dev is asking questions of why he is doing things he should not do. I poped in late last night for just a sec, so I dont know what happened but as I said, just stating my opinion.
 

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Whats the history behind it?
Ut oh! If you are asking, that cannot be good. :danceb:
I dont see that as cool at all. This is a bad thing IMO. Whats to say this EM will abuse his powers and only do this for people he knows in game or IRL for personal gain? It was also stated by an ATL EM that they are not allowed to do this at all. Mesanna is asking about it for a reason I am sure. Also, isn't this the reason EMs only make signed clothing named same was as any tailor name would appear?

Hmmmm, trip to woodshed maybe??

I know we go thru EM's like a seventy year old thru viagra on Atlantic on occasion, but I hope this will not be the quickest "meet and greet" to goodbye we have ever had. :sad4:
 

NewGuyATL

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i dont think its favoritism.. i think it was dumb luck lol. The guy happened to randomly pop his cloak on the EM and he had 1 special item for a certain person, that person was who got it.

Well I think its a little assuming to say you know why she was asking a question.. might just have wanted to know herself. I'm not sure what the new EM plans to do.. but, if we can get back to the robe.. and offers and price checks that'd be nice :D
 

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Offers and price checks are dependent upon the further creation of them or not. As you say, one of a kind for now. If the EM violated what should be done and can do no more, then value should increase. If however nothing was violated and there will be MASS amounts, then value declines RAPIDLY.

Just my opinion tho.

*edit*
"got to thinking - yupp it hurt some lol"


There were several things signed last night by him. Have a few friends that had other things signed or made. Such as barnacle covered aprons etc. So no real way to know if this is truly the only deathrobe done that way or not.
 
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Webster's Dictionary. fa-vor-it-ism. the act of showing unfair liking for one over others
There is no doubt it is favoritism, intentional or not.

On a personal note, as a Luna shop owner, i find him to have a bias personality. Last night was the meet and greet and he wants to bring up invading and destroying Luna. I will not attend any events held by anyone who has little or no respect for the time i have spent in game to get to this point and for a market place that the players have created.

Webster's Dictionary. greet. 1 to meet and speak to with polite and friendly words; hail or welcome.
 

NewGuyATL

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hehe that luna idea is not HIS, it's a rumour that's been going around for quite some time.. And from what I've heard it's just an invasion, not a destruction of a town thing.

As of right now this item is 1 of 1. I did not see anyone else get one, nor have I heard it.. if anyone else has one I would appreciate them adding to this post to confirm it.
 

Bon Iver

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Seeming that EMs can NOT do that, he probably won't be with us for long. #1 rule broken, major no-no.

:flame:
 

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Last night was the meet and greet and he wants to bring up invading and destroying Luna. I will not attend any events held by anyone who has little or no respect for the time i have spent in game to get to this point and for a market place that the players have created.
Who doesn't bring up destroying Luna? I mean, people have been begging for it to be destroyed for quite awhile now... Heck, I have a vendor in Luna and I wouldn't mind blowing it up once in awhile.

It's not like they're allowed to anyways... Just wishful thinking.
 
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MySavannahRanger

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I personaly do not have a problem with an invasion of Luna. I think it would be fun. He said invade and destroy Luna. You only feed to the favroitism as you take up for him.
 
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MySavannahRanger

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Yes, wishful thinking. That leads to the part of my statement that you left out of the quote. Bias personality.
 

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i dont think its favoritism.. i think it was dumb luck lol. The guy happened to randomly pop his cloak on the EM and he had 1 special item for a certain person, that person was who got it.
That's completely against the rules for what they're allowed to do. From my understanding, they're not supposed to hand out items directly to players, unless they have earned it through some tangible method (for example, what the EMs did tonight on Chessy and the many RBGs attendance). Else how can you disprove that it was not favoritism?
sounds like Mesanna is gonna throw her evil hands on an EM.....
 

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hehe that luna idea is not HIS, it's a rumour that's been going around for quite some time.. And from what I've heard it's just an invasion, not a destruction of a town thing.

As of right now this item is 1 of 1. I did not see anyone else get one, nor have I heard it.. if anyone else has one I would appreciate them adding to this post to confirm it.


http://vboards.stratics.com/uo-rares-collector/251240-another-one-kind-robe-em-thomas-pyewacket.html

My thread with a picture.
 

NewGuyATL

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i already explained the item history above where someone gave the em their cloak and he ran around using it, returning the signed by death robe as a gift.

manticore.. if theres no other deathrobe signed by blah blah, how can you figure its not one of a kind?
 

Alexander of ATL.

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Mesanna should just delete it and be done.
I agree with Nightly, but instead of deleting just this one, delete all of them. If the robe was created by mistake because the EM didnt know better because he is new, or he just didnt pay attention to the rule book there is to much "drama" behind the robes and tbh i dont know if anyone out there knows exactly how many robes are out there. I got there 2 hours after the Meet and Greet started (didnt see post on EM site), and he was dropping stuff with his name on it,
example:


The thing is, if it was a mistake, maybe it should be wiped out of the game to save scams cause ppl say its "1 of 1" or people selling it for a lowball offer they got. I have nothing against "NewguyATL", i mean i would have done the same mistake thinking its one of one but who knows.....
 

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My .02 for what it's worth.

I am not one that will jump on the "favoritism" bandwagon easily. I think that EM Thomas just got caught up in the atmosphere of a "meet and greet", being a new EM on Atlantic, and was excited to be there. So, he started doing whatever he could to be friendly and give folks what they want, pixels. I err on the side of caution when it comes to someone's character, until a pattern emerges.

*starts humming theme from an old TV show*

Could Thomas have done wrong?

Will he now have to contend with Mesanna's wrath?

Will the robe be deleted or put on a vending machine soon?

and....

What about Chuck and Bob?!?!

Tune in next week to another episdoe of Soap - Atlantic Style!!! :lick:
 

NewGuyATL

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who knows what'll happen, but the robe is 1 of 1.

theres no other deathrobe signed by him.

I think people are creating entirely too much drama about it lol.
Anyone who got the robe themselves would not be complaining about it.
 

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Well it IS controversial. I would have at least held on to it for a bit longer. Now there is a chance that this new EM will be fired, and your item deleted. Of course this wouldn't be because you are selling it next day, but because he's creating wealth for other players outside of the confines of an event.

I don't know the rules for these kind of things, but it sounds like he has broken at least one...or two of them first day, and the few of you making a dime off of it simply brought it to their boss's attention.

Congratulations.
 

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Is it still on Napa? If so I'll bid 25mil.
the robe is 1 of 1.

theres no other deathrobe signed by him.
Sorry to nit-pick here.... BUT,

There is no way to know that for sure. King Fisher seems to indicate there is at least one on Napa. Seeing as how Thomas himself said he just came over from Napa {I don't know how long he was an EM there} there could be quite a few there. OR he could have done more of them last night also and the folks that have them just avoid the rares forum.

For me personally, nothing is ever 1/1 until the EM confirms it.... OR Manticore posts it as such after his research here http://vboards.stratics.com/archive-reference/231433-season-9-2011-event-item-list.html
 

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Well it IS controversial. I would have at least held on to it for a bit longer. Now there is a chance that this new EM will be fired, and your item deleted. Of course this wouldn't be because you are selling it next day, but because he's creating wealth for other players outside of the confines of an event.

I don't know the rules for these kind of things, but it sounds like he has broken at least one...or two of them first day, and the few of you making a dime off of it simply brought it to their boss's attention.

Congratulations.
FYI, protocols were put into place to keep programs like this in line. Don't blame the player base for pointing out a big no no. If you weren't aware, items stopped getting properties when a rouge EM created super powerful items outside the confines of events without approval.

The more you know.... *rainbow*
 

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FYI, protocols were put into place to keep programs like this in line. Don't blame the player base for pointing out a big no no. If you weren't aware, items stopped getting properties when a rouge EM created super powerful items outside the confines of events without approval.

The more you know.... *rainbow*
I need to write a book on how to create $$$ out of mistakes. I put blame on the player if he gets the item deleted. What I was really wanting to say was, hold onto the item for a month or two, let the happenings leave the minds of most, and THEN sell it. That's what I would do in his shoes any way.

Doing it next day increases the likelihood that it gets deleted which does not = $$$

Oh and I do believe I did at least say this which of course vindicates me from blaming the player base:

Now there is a chance that this new EM will be fired, and your item deleted. Of course this wouldn't be because you are selling it next day, but because he's creating wealth for other players outside of the confines of an event.
And I wasn't on ATL (Was it ATL? Wasnt the EM named Ironfist or something??) back then with that rogue EM making super powerful weps for friends and himself on another account, so the possibility that I may not know every detail is understandable.

Remember that time I was chased by a dragon in green acres??? Oh yea, no one was there, nevermind.
 

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The robe(s) are not going to be deleted. I dont think the devs/GMs have the tools (special commands) to located any item by certain properties like graphic id, name, color, etc.

On the last leprechaun event on baja, everyone received a dagger that was crafted by a char named "Drunk Leprechaun Knife Co." with 35 DI but I received a dagger -renamed- to "Crafted by the drunk leprechaun knife factory". It was a mistake that Ive received that dagger, it was probably created to be displayed by the EM but since I messed up the trade window (Ive canceled it the first time) well.. i end up with the other cool dagger.
That EM is going to be fired ?? i dont think so lol

The EMs that forgot to lockdown items *supposedly* by mistake when decorating.. are going to be fired too? that will end the EM program lol. (someone got a piece of a big Yew Tree on LS this way, and as far as I know he sold it to manicore)

Another item (its on ATL for sale if anyone is interested :p) is a wooden bench crafted by [a well known? collector] and the rarity comes because its marble dyed. AFAIK, messana dyed it.. so she is going to be fired too? lol, no :lol:
 

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The robe(s) are not going to be deleted. I dont think the devs/GMs have the tools (special commands) to located any item by certain properties like graphic id, name, color, etc.

On the last leprechaun event on baja, everyone received a dagger that was crafted by a char named "Drunk Leprechaun Knife Co." with 35 DI but I received a dagger -renamed- to "Crafted by the drunk leprechaun knife factory". It was a mistake that Ive received that dagger, it was probably created to be displayed by the EM but since I messed up the trade window (Ive canceled it the first time) well.. i end up with the other cool dagger.
That EM is going to be fired ?? i dont think so lol

The EMs that forgot to lockdown items *supposedly* by mistake when decorating.. are going to be fired too? that will end the EM program lol. (someone got a piece of a big Yew Tree on LS this way, and as far as I know he sold it to manicore)

Another item (its on ATL for sale if anyone is interested :p) is a wooden bench crafted by [a well known? collector] and the rarity comes because its marble dyed. AFAIK, messana dyed it.. so she is going to be fired too? lol, no :lol:
If this is the case, then it looks like Prom is the proud owner of a 1 of 1 robe, lol.
 

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who knows what'll happen, but the robe is 1 of 1.

theres no other deathrobe signed by him.

I think people are creating entirely too much drama about it lol.
Anyone who got the robe themselves would not be complaining about it.
Like I said, it is not 1 of 1. I don't make comments without proper investigations.
 

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The robe(s) are not going to be deleted. I dont think the devs/GMs have the tools (special commands) to located any item by certain properties like graphic id, name, color, etc.

On the last leprechaun event on baja, everyone received a dagger that was crafted by a char named "Drunk Leprechaun Knife Co." with 35 DI but I received a dagger -renamed- to "Crafted by the drunk leprechaun knife factory". It was a mistake that Ive received that dagger, it was probably created to be displayed by the EM but since I messed up the trade window (Ive canceled it the first time) well.. i end up with the other cool dagger.
That EM is going to be fired ?? i dont think so lol

The EMs that forgot to lockdown items *supposedly* by mistake when decorating.. are going to be fired too? that will end the EM program lol. (someone got a piece of a big Yew Tree on LS this way, and as far as I know he sold it to manicore)

Another item (its on ATL for sale if anyone is interested :p) is a wooden bench crafted by [a well known? collector] and the rarity comes because its marble dyed. AFAIK, messana dyed it.. so she is going to be fired too? lol, no :lol:


Apetul is right. You don't get fire for these type of mistakes. They are only humans after-all. However, these robes and the other items made by this EM are of a different matter all together.

The main QA/QC process in the EM program is Mesanna period. Any items that the EM wants to introduce into the game must be cleared by her first. Some of the Elders have more authority because they have proven their worth but still what they do at any event must be cleared by her first. From day 1, death robes are a big No No. That's just one of the few items she would NEVER clear. Thus what he did was an entirely different matter than say an item forgetting to get locked down etc..
 

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Pardon my ignorance, but why would a death robe be one of the few items she takes issue with?
 

NewGuyATL

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Manticore, there is another signed by this EM robe, but it is not a deathrobe.

this is the only one he handed out.

as to what mesanna does, who knows.. she hasn't done anything thus far though so I don't see why she would.

Still looking for offers and appraises, I understand it depends on future things as well, but in the now is what I'm looking for :)
 

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I don't see what the big deal is even if it is unique, with all the items they pump out right now what is the big deal if there is one more. There was even a monster that was tamed in recent history that was not supposed to be and when Mesanna deleted it she gave the tamer a unique statue replica of it. So I mean really? this much bs over yet another named em named item when Mesanna herself is putting much much much more desirable items out there herself. Please. Yet another reason why this game just does not appeal to me anymore.
 

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Lineman, I like the EM program and would like to see it stick around. I don't care who puts out what. As long as the items follow the proper channels, its all good IMO.
 
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