The last and final round room can be very challenging.
The only things I've seen fast-decay are things that have no native loot, in how they are coded for the event (usually have loot in their "natural" form). However, when they loot a player they STILL fast-decay, taking your stuff with you. I lost a bag of 30 or so items I'd been collecting to enhance or donate to the LA Player Center that way.
oh dear god, THIS. I've had bags with drops looted more than once. If I get res'd before the monster dies, I CAN'T LOOT IT...and the corpse never goes public because they have the champ spawn decay timer.
I will come clean.. this is honestly, partly my fault.
When the content was on Test Center Kyronix came up after one run and was talking to us all for feedback. I suggested they may want to look at making the corpses decay a lot faster. With the usual timer of corpse decay the ground was literally littered with corpses to where you could not see other mobs spawning.. could never even pull a bar even with using cntrl-shift.
My bad...
*takes Kylie out behind a random woodshed* I'm sorry it had to come to this...
I will come clean.. this is honestly, partly my fault.
When the content was on Test Center Kyronix came up after one run and was talking to us all for feedback. I suggested they may want to look at making the corpses decay a lot faster. With the usual timer of corpse decay the ground was literally littered with corpses to where you could not see other mobs spawning.. could never even pull a bar even with using cntrl-shift.
My bad...
Actually, if they didn't loot you and vanish, it would be fine. Ideal, even. It's the combination of being looted then being completely unable to get your stuff back that is frustrating.
*takes Kylie out behind a random woodshed* I'm sorry its had to come to this...
That's...uhm... How special.Sticks and stone may break my bones... but chains and pain arouse me
If Kyronix were an actual player he would know this, but again, things like this go on because once they leave the office for the day, the only time they log in is for an M&G.
I've noticed this on occasion (including during the town invasions with Generals) when something targets a player who recalls away. This can happen with pets as well. It seems like the MOB has an idea where the last target currently is and tries to get there, goes along it's path until it hits its rubber-banding point, jumps back to it's spawn point and just keeps doing this, even when targeted by something else.
Totally not true...unless he's in the office at 10-11 at night...which I seriously doubt.
I'm pretty sure that was on the clock...don't even...
And nobody noticed the area is too small, the mobs die in bulk with one AoE hit, the fairy disrobes and calms, liches are bad because they steal items? Took me three room to make a list of bad things going on there.
Well..you know how they announce when stuff is gonna be on TC?? Yeah...LOG IN AND TEST STUFF! There were 6 of us there, we did around 3-4 full rounds, Kyronix tweaked the spawn a bit..drop rate was good...and yeah the disrobing and calming? Kinda supposed to do that? Deal with it.....I have...liches stealing stuff? Haven't they always? Deal with it...
There were at least 3 or 4 larger rooms they could have used... infact they could have used the 4 or 5 on the actual first floor... which are fairly good sized... but yeah... what do I know?
A guildmate and I actually tested it on multiple occasions on tc1 and could see the problems with just two of us. But unfortunately we didn't have the audience of Kyronix.
No a normal one is not bad at all. There's a paragon one on LS right now. Its getting smarter. Its moving from the main entry to the back stairs. Usually we can stay on the sides and kill the spawn while pets keep it in a corner, not this one.
You seem to be a glass half full person. Not a bad trait btw.
If your sampire can hit them once...
People don't log onto TC1 in droves to help test because there is no incentive to. That's a problem at this point.
They can't make the dungeon bigger? That's just silly, of course the devs could make rooms larger, smaller, or cease to exist entirely should they wish! Notice all the black area between rooms and such? They could utilize that to change room shape and size, though that was clearly well outside the scope of this project. (Rooms 2 and 4 are the ones most people think are too small, with the design of 7 being somewhat problematic. Rooms 6 and 8 are workable, but can get appropriately dicey. Room 1, 5 and 9 are fine.)
In hindsight, this was an awful change. Corpse pile-up is manageable. Having your items go poof on a corpse that fast decayed is not. Use All Names/Incoming Names to see when things spawn, target with an area effect. Another option would be for these mobs to 1) NOT PANCAKING RUMMAGE 2) leave no corpse unless its a miniboss. (If you used the EC and you would instantly know when something spawned and have no problem targeting specific things
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Great post. The poor souls have yet to put any damage on the Fairy yet. They dont have fire pets and most have left to do something fun. Like I have. I was really looking forward to this. Paying bills is more fun....
Agree. I tried a pet with AoE, They dont have time to attack anything in most rooms. I have chain lightning pre-cast and I have a 50% chance of clicking a target or near a target before it is gone. With my 30% damage undead book I kill everything up to a papa lich in one hit. Its a good round when I see 2 bolts hit when a group of Mobs spawn. The Spell Weavers kill most things before I can move the cursor to click them.
No, I just ran down there on Origin. There is not one person in the Dungeon. Of course you think this is a good event. It is designed for 2 or 3 players to kill all the spawns and the Bosses. (except para Bosses) One Mage or SW tamer could do it up to the Cookie thrower room.
Or they have a life.....not off work yet, making dinner etc. etc. and remember when I said there were 6-7 of us down there? sometimes more....so you're wrong..sorry.
The difference is that it's optional in Shadowguard. You aren't required to pickup the bottles, but if you do you have chosen to accept the potential consequences. Anyone that hasn't done the Nightmare Fairy with a male character really doesn't understand just how bad it is. It takes off 4 pieces of armor, and half the time you are instantly undressed again as soon as you re-dress. Not to mention the calming causing you to have to run out of the room, only to run back in once it fades just to get undressed again and need to run out...
You don't PLAY on test center..good grief! You TEST stuff there....few hours...maybe for a few days....not hard.
Incentive is to have a Dev there to talk to, listen to you, give feedback too...if it's constructive and makes sense they listen...not the OMG THE SKY IS FALLING RUN FOR YOUR LIVES stuff you do 99% of the time. (No offense, you do your thing I do mine)
When I am actually TESTING things, I do NOT tell them everything is fine....
Every time I have done it, the gingerbread man spawns with stuff still in the walls....same happened with the Titan in Trinsic....not a big deal, you can still complete the room...but yes I did mention it.
The fast decay is Kylie's fault
No when we were testing there was TOO much spawn....trust me like the Fountain room in Shadowguard was when it first came out....or Doom? Remember this?
I don't do what your saying all the time infact I offer tons of constructive criticism and suggestions to improve things... However I do get really pissed and frustrated when there are GAME BREAKING issues that are going on 5 years and still NOT FIXED. I tend to get a bit sick and tired of repeating myself... and being told that it's a "NON-ISSUE" all in my head and given condescending responses to the issues when they CLEARLY aren't really testing/checking/or listening to the problems.You don't PLAY on test center..good grief! You TEST stuff there....few hours...maybe for a few days....not hard.
Incentive is to have a Dev there to talk to, listen to you, give feedback too...if it's constructive and makes sense they listen...not the OMG THE SKY IS FALLING RUN FOR YOUR LIVES stuff you do 99% of the time. (No offense, you do your thing I do mine)
When I am actually TESTING things, I do NOT tell them everything is fine....
During Arc Testing...remember going to Mythrans house, that small table when you walk in? When I tested it, it said ~You notice a small drawer in the drawer slightly open~...MOST of the Pagen spells were not working...but instead of going OMG KYRONIX WHAT WERE YOU THINKING? CAN'T YOU SPELL? DO YOU SPEAK ENGLISH? WHO WOULD DO THAT? I calmly and constructively pointed out what was wrong and offered ways to fix it...which he did....so no I do not pat them on the back all the time....when it's appropriate I suggest things that need fixing or changing and NEVER call them out on a public forum because that's just bad taste.
Every time I have done it, the gingerbread man spawns with stuff still in the walls....same happened with the Titan in Trinsic....not a big deal, you can still complete the room...but yes I did mention it.
The fast decay is Kylie's fault
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Yeah it was like that....48596484 corpses and then 486348634 more spawn so you couldn't target a thing....so the decay rate was changed.
After that room it became fun. The reindeer room was fun. Lots of paragons. The cookie thrower was fun. More players showed up. Then the next room had many paragons and many deaths. We got a paragon serpent guy so we got to kill lots of spawn. Then Jack is always a good room except for the levels and sight issues.
Evenings there are usually 6-7 there until a paragon spawns and mornings I am usually there unless I have to do something around the farm or go somewhere. I pretty much gave up trying to farm the rooms in the evenings all the Kool Kids crew running around and acting like it is a race to get the boss up, killed and move on to the next room results in way to many death robes. So evenings is time for pumpkins, trick or treating and killing butchers.
Hmm...you're using a Sampire and you haven't tried Wither???
