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RawHeadRex

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back in the day everyone and their mother trapped a bear or spell casting badie for training skills. i never did it unattended fearing i would die and as soon as it was illegal people stopped. what difference does it make to lure the animal to your house steps to train... and confining said animal inside the house? Sorry that happened to you Mariam, hang in there.
 
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Well...there is no game without a customer. I personally could care less about what a person does to train a skill. However if I get a mean on over scripters I run around fel looking for bots to pwn. Problem solved.

The problem is that the scripters/macroers work their magic in the Trammel ruleset areas. God forbid someone release a dragon or other aggressive critter near them. That's bannable!

P.S. The phrase is, "I couldn't care less" meaning that you care as little as possible. If you "could care less" that means that you do care to some degree. :thumbup1:
 

Kat

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Whats the big fuss? I never put doors on my houses. I am far too lazy to bother with opening them or finding the macro. :)

But, yeah, EA might as well hire monkeys to provide customer service. They are more knowledgeable than any CSR I have ever spoken with and they'll work for bananas.
 

SashaSeeks

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WOW! Craziness!!!
I used to spend tons of time taming and releasing unicorns in my house, just because they went with my decor. Helped to make it look like a fantasy land.

I've also logged on from time to time to find my house shoved full of polar bears as a joke by guild mates. One time there were soooo many in there that I think it lagged all of Ice Island. I've even logged in to find frost spiders in my spa room, which was quite hilarious as I don't like spiders. But to me that is part of the fun of UO. Never knowing what too expect out of some of your friends, and people being spontanious... and just getting in a good laugh.

I don't understand what is wrong with having an animal in your house in the first place. If you or a friend are able to get it tamed and released there in the first place, whats the harm? Who cares if someone is able to use it for a skill gain, there are all kinds of methods to gain skill that would be similar to trapping an animal in a house, you still have to spend the time training the darn skill, or taming it.

I also think it is a crying shame that the person that handled the situation, doesn't even know the first thing about UO. Oh I understand budget cuts and all that jazz, but whoever is dealing with the situation should at least play the game. Heck there are probably plenty of us game players here that would take a job like that. It would be a great way for some of our UO players that are disabled or unemployed to make a buck.

On another note, does that mean we can get banned for hatching chicken lizards in our house now??? I mean they ARE wild when they first hatch. And what if I hatch a chicken lizard and suddenly have to leave my computer, because of xxxx number of reasons?????

What is our poor UO world coming too????
 

retrorider

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Nope... I have a castle and when monsters spawn in the inner court yard, the game kicks them out to the sign as soon as they aggro on me. So there is a mecanism set up to avoid trapping monsters in there it seems :)

Come to think of it, it also kicks healers out that spawns there, so Iam not sure what triggers it, but everytime I log on some monster or healer will be kicked to the house sign after a few secs.
You're right about the booting of spawn WHEN YOU LOG IN.

What happens if someone pages on you before you log in and get the spawn booted.

That's what we're talking about. Having trapped animals in your house that you didn't put there and you haven't logged in for days before or after the discovery.

According to the evidence being discussed by the Original Poster you could be bannable just for having spawn trapped on your property regardless of your culpability. Silly, I know but it might just be the case if someone wanted to Grief you.
 
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Mariam, drop me a line ...

Catch you guys on the boards ... Oh and ... stay in school, don't do illegal substances, and look both ways before crossing Fel :)
 

RaDian FlGith

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Seriously, PM Cal. These sorts of things shouldn't be happening, and the GMs involved need to be retrained. {Emphasis mine.}
Your suggestion that they have, indeed, been trained in the first place is laughable... at best.

A majority of the GMs who answer calls about Ultima Online rely on a knowledge base in order to answer the questions they receive. The problem is, they rely entirely on the knowledge base, and have zero experience actually playing the game.

It's a sad state of affairs, but when you get banned because someone else released an animal in your house because it's "trapped," and you're told to remove your doors as an answer to making the house ban-safe, there's a SERIOUS issue there.

They don't need to retrain... they need to train.
 

Lord Gareth

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look both ways before crossing Fel :)
Sorry I fail to see how this can be done when my character is always taking a dirt nap in felucca. I go to look right but before I can look left

"You are dead"
*Wonderful UO Music kicks in*

:lol::stretcher::lol:
 

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I PM'd Cal about this incident when I saw it last evening. For many of us have our homes set to Public and/or Private, but we have open doors. Be it so people can use our Rune Books, Dye Tubs, Etc. It really doesn't matter why they are open, just they are open. And it concerned me enough to try & find out & get this clarified before it happens to anyone else. He got back to me & wanted me to let everyone know here HE WILL LOOK INTO THIS. He is in training today but when he is out & available he will look into it. I would not want this to happen to me or anyone else. Lets give him time to look into this & see what happens. Ty Cal

 

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*nods* That works for me.
 

SashaSeeks

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I PM'd Cal about this incident when I saw it last evening. For many of us have our homes set to Public and/or Private, but we have open doors. Be it so people can use our Rune Books, Dye Tubs, Etc. It really doesn't matter why they are open, just they are open. And it concerned me enough to try & find out & get this clarified before it happens to anyone else. He got back to me & wanted me to let everyone know here HE WILL LOOK INTO THIS. He is in training today but when he is out & available he will look into it. I would not want this to happen to me or anyone else. Lets give him time to look into this & see what happens. Ty Cal

Wow again!
Its GOOD to see this make it further than just rantings on the forum. Thanx Snakeman. It will be interesting to see Cal's response.
(Keeping fingers crossed.)
 

Aurelius

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I've no doubt Cal will look into it, and maybe resolve the particular problem Mariam has experienced. But when it comes to resolving the bigger problem about GM knowledge of the game.... let's just say after all these years of erratic, bizarre and nonsensical GM actions happening, I'm not going to hold my breath waiting.

It's a 'cultural' problem at EA, they are willing to let untrained, semi-trained, or far from competent people act as GM based on a checksheet and a set of canned responses. The solution to that problem costs money and time training and managing people properly, and no matter how good his intentions I can't see Cal getting any further resolving it than the past 12 years worth of managers have.
 

Black Sun

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Today In my house a polar bear walked right in. and on another day I had a healer inside walking around. they seem to have no problem walking onto my steps from inside the courtyard.
I have an orc problem at my shop in tram. Some days I will log in and there will be an orc or headless one walking around inside my house. But if they're outside when I log in, and they agro me, they can't walk across the threshold of the house. It's very odd. You'd think if they didn't want us to have wild animals in our house they'd simply code it so any wild animal in a house gets auto booted.

One of the houses I had on atlantic had a fenced in "stable" area, I used to aggro on horses and cows and sheep and stuff, get em to follow me in there, close the gate, and "leave house".

Was quite cool to have my own petting zoo...
Seems imagination is gonna have to be a thing of the past, as we make way for new griefing tactics.
I used to have a house with 3 pens set up outside, like a stable. One was filled with bales of wheat and a pitch fork, the other 2 each had a phillips wooden steed in them. Some shard vigilante paged on me for having pens in my house. The GM popped up and told me I had an illegal house design. Thankfully he was smart enough to realize that I wasn't using it for anything beyond decoration and just deleted my gates. After he left the little twerp who paged on me made some comment about being on a mission to get rid of all the cheaters and ran off to annoy someone else.
 
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This is freaking rediculous. I would if I were you file a complaint against the CSR and fight the mark against your account with CS. It's not rocket science to figure this stuff out, yet everybody in CS makes it out to be.
 
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I used to have a house with 3 pens set up outside, like a stable. One was filled with bales of wheat and a pitch fork, the other 2 each had a phillips wooden steed in them. Some shard vigilante paged on me for having pens in my house. The GM popped up and told me I had an illegal house design. Thankfully he was smart enough to realize that I wasn't using it for anything beyond decoration and just deleted my gates. After he left the little twerp who paged on me made some comment about being on a mission to get rid of all the cheaters and ran off to annoy someone else.
I'd like to know what a "pen" is defined as, exactly. Is it the half doors that make something a pen, or a room that's so many tiles small?

I'm sorry to hear about your problem, Mariam. Crossing my fingers that Cal gets it resolved for you and the rest of us... I have to live in fear now that one of those Malas bats is going to get trapped in my house. Anyone else notice how those darn things get trapped on a tile in your home sometimes? Ugh.
 

NuSair

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Original post around 4:40pm on the 21st
Cal responds 12:30'ish on the 22nd...

It was a 24 hour ban... at most what- 4 hours left. I am thinking someone should be comp'ed at least 1 month of gametime for having to deal with that crap.

It would be nice to deal with CS reps that know what they are dealing with. But, with EA driving, they are going to do things the corperate way, the way they learned in the business schools on how to run a business. Which doesn't work in the gaming world. They consolidate because they are taught in the long run they will save more money than they will lose in customers.

Go ask person that ran TSR into the ground.

I digress.....

My last dealing with a CS rep left me quite disappointed in even his basic knowledge of the product.
 

red sky

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Aren't there several methods for training skill that involve trapping animals in pens with doors? Or am I mistaken. Just a thought is all.
 

Petra Fyde

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:D nice - I did pass it along on the day Mariam posted it actually.
 

Otis Firefly

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Aren't there several methods for training skill that involve trapping animals in pens with doors? Or am I mistaken. Just a thought is all.
if the person was caught red handed using any exploit with trapped animals? then that would be one thing..but assuming the person is using an exploit just because there are animals loose in the persons home is just wrong, much like assuming someone is hacking because they own a computer
 

Black Sun

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I'd like to know what a "pen" is defined as, exactly. Is it the half doors that make something a pen, or a room that's so many tiles small?
I just went on TC and threw together something similar to what I had at my house when the GM showed up. Obviously I didn't bother with a whole house or deco, but just to give you the general idea.
 

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Nope... I have a castle and when monsters spawn in the inner court yard, the game kicks them out to the sign as soon as they aggro on me. So there is a mecanism set up to avoid trapping monsters in there it seems :)

Come to think of it, it also kicks healers out that spawns there, so Iam not sure what triggers it, but everytime I log on some monster or healer will be kicked to the house sign after a few secs.
You're right about the booting of spawn WHEN YOU LOG IN.

What happens if someone pages on you before you log in and get the spawn booted.

That's what we're talking about. Having trapped animals in your house that you didn't put there and you haven't logged in for days before or after the discovery.

According to the evidence being discussed by the Original Poster you could be bannable just for having spawn trapped on your property regardless of your culpability. Silly, I know but it might just be the case if someone wanted to Grief you.
You all must have private castles... I've NEVER had that happen.... I come home and constantly find monsters and NPC's and animals in the courtyard of my castle... it's rather annoying....

But having to put all our houses to private would RUIN all RP communities....

Which in my opinion would ruin UO for me and many others... since the sandbox type style of UO is the only reason I play it... and love it so very much.

They need to come up with new ways of training their staff if this really is the case.....

And besides I recall not so many years ago I myself used to tame and release 100's of unicorns all over a city just for the fun of it...

That was before the Zoo gave me a place to take them...


So then my next question is what happens to the person who logs out and you know how this happens my beetle sometimes doesn't log with me because I forgot to get on it and it had something in it's pack.... I come back later to find that it "left" me.... and dropped my goods but is now wondering freely about my house.... Do I get banned for that??? Seriously...

Unless they SEE you macro'ing some skill on a pet in your house they should just remove the pet and go away.... it's absolute BULLS*** to have someone banned for having an animal roaming in their house...

I set up stables at MANY of my homes to give folk a place for the pets while we are doing something..... Especially near my castle because there are MANY bad things that spawn there and a pet left out in front is a prime target for gargoyles and reapers and such... No one likes coming back to a dead or lost pet...
 

Tek

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Hmmm so as a castle owner I could be banned since monsters can randomly spawn in my courtyard and not get out.
Nope... I have a castle and when monsters spawn in the inner court yard, the game kicks them out to the sign as soon as they aggro on me. So there is a mecanism set up to avoid trapping monsters in there it seems :)

Come to think of it, it also kicks healers out that spawns there, so Iam not sure what triggers it, but everytime I log on some monster or healer will be kicked to the house sign after a few secs.
This dosent work 100% of the time. Plus if they spawn and are stuck there while you are logged out, you could get banned is what I was suggesting.
 

Otis Firefly

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You all must have private castles... I've NEVER had that happen.... I come home and constantly find monsters and NPC's and animals in the courtyard of my castle... it's rather annoying.....
this happens to me all the time and mine is private. and just like Tek says!..sometimes the npc's/ creatures will be ejected from the area but it does not happen all the time and sometimes maybe 1 of 3 wolf's will be ejected! leaving the rest to wander the courtyard..getting banned for something like that is ********, just my opinion
 
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Sounds to me TBH that Mariam or whatever. Was training disco or provoke in the house in question took a break and got caught by someone who paged a GM. Most people have at least 2 accounts so just because you didn't log into your main account doesn't really have much bearing far as i can see.

Mariam probably was using a char on the other account that didn't own the house to train and could then pretend if something happend that they didn't log into that account and play the innocent how could it be me see i didn't log into that account. Blaming it on some nasty player scheme. I call BS on this one. It sounds fake as mess to me.

If in fact all this actually did happen. Then maybe you should learn not to be a dbag to people who know where you live and this never could have happened. The whole thing seems pretty phoney to me though.
 

Casca_The_Immortal

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My second account got a 24 hour for the way two doors were placed. Granted they could trap you but my neighbors house did the same and he just happened to be around when the GM was "fixing" the two houses and he didn't get the suspension.

Far from a expliot as I just happen to own a old house at yew gate, sigh.
This is all bull**** and if it's true (which I can't believe it is) then the Customer service rep is a ****** and should be fired. The Leave House Function is for leaving a house when you are flagged. End of story. You single click on your paperdoll and no matter what house you are insta-teleported under the house sign.

Epic fail on part of EA or you (if you lied).
 

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I have always had my castle open to the public for players to use dye tubs forges etc, and today I set my castle to private after reading this. Its just sad that a griefer wins when a simple fix could of been put in. House owner or not anyone who releases a pet in a house.That released pet should automaticly gets rejected out of the house.
They should be able to do this. They were able to make battle chickens pop outside.
 
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I felt the need to come back and clarify more of what happened in my situation. I found out after I posted this that someone was training a cu in my stable at my house. They were at the keyboard and were paged on. The GM showed up and they talked to the GM who gave them a warning. Eight hours later I was banned for illegal house design.

For those of you who have been supportive, thanks and I did message Cal back in hopes that the punishment in the future will go to the person "committing the crime" instead of the public house owner.

For those of you who don't believe me, I'm sorry but I have no reason to lie. I'm not asking for a free month nor do I want it. I'm not a dbag to my neighbors (that would be my husband btw). And I personally own only one account. My husband also owns one but I don't play his and he does not play mine. No it wasn't him who was at my house.
 

sablestorm

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This is really curious. Do GMs have the ability to see who released a pet?
 

Alea

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Just a warning for those of you who play UO.....you may either want to set your house to private OR as the customer servce rep told me DELETE your doors!!!!!!


WHY?? You might be suspended if you don't delete your doors especially if people are trying to harass you and they let cus go wild inside your home in an effort to kill you as you log on.

Yep you read that right. Someone released cus in my house to kill me when I logged on (which I haven't logged on in days as acknowledged by the EA customer service rep) but I GOT SUSPENDED for having an illegal house design that "trapped" the cus in my home. This means I had DOORS on my house - heaven forbid. When I spoke to the customer service guy about how I was supposed to make my house legal so that I don't get suspended anymore, he came to the conclusion that (after he told me he had no idea what UO was or what is about and told me there were c-u's in my house) I should either make it so no one can enter my house to harass me or that I would have to have a house with no doors so that if they came back with this c-u monster, then the monster could escape on his own. ARE YOU KIDDING ME?!?!?!?!?

As soon as my 24 hour ban is up, I'll log on and take the doors off my house. I suppose it's better to have no doors than no game. =(

It's not the doors that are illegal. It's the animals/pin in your house. About a year or so ago they made that a bannable offense. People used to build pins in their houses tame a pet then release it inside the pin and train skills on them.


Pretty lame that you got banned over something someone else did.
 

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I felt the need to come back and clarify more of what happened in my situation. I found out after I posted this that someone was training a cu in my stable at my house. They were at the keyboard and were paged on. The GM showed up and they talked to the GM who gave them a warning. Eight hours later I was banned for illegal house design.

For those of you who have been supportive, thanks and I did message Cal back in hopes that the punishment in the future will go to the person "committing the crime" instead of the public house owner.

For those of you who don't believe me, I'm sorry but I have no reason to lie. I'm not asking for a free month nor do I want it. I'm not a dbag to my neighbors (that would be my husband btw). And I personally own only one account. My husband also owns one but I don't play his and he does not play mine. No it wasn't him who was at my house.
Since this was built with game mechanics that are legal it should not be considered illegal. but since it is considered illegal then no one should be able to commit their customized house design with stables that block animals from getting out.
Also if stables are just for show set all stable doors to house owner that way no one can use them for illegal purposes
 

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Just a warning for those of you who play UO.....you may either want to set your house to private OR as the customer servce rep told me DELETE your doors!!!!!!


WHY?? You might be suspended if you don't delete your doors especially if people are trying to harass you and they let cus go wild inside your home in an effort to kill you as you log on.

Yep you read that right. Someone released cus in my house to kill me when I logged on (which I haven't logged on in days as acknowledged by the EA customer service rep) but I GOT SUSPENDED for having an illegal house design that "trapped" the cus in my home. This means I had DOORS on my house - heaven forbid. When I spoke to the customer service guy about how I was supposed to make my house legal so that I don't get suspended anymore, he came to the conclusion that (after he told me he had no idea what UO was or what is about and told me there were c-u's in my house) I should either make it so no one can enter my house to harass me or that I would have to have a house with no doors so that if they came back with this c-u monster, then the monster could escape on his own. ARE YOU KIDDING ME?!?!?!?!?

As soon as my 24 hour ban is up, I'll log on and take the doors off my house. I suppose it's better to have no doors than no game. =(
There DEFINATELY has to be more to this story than appears. Everyone hase the "leave house" feature on them just because of people getting trapped in felucca houses. You DON'T get banned for haveing locked doors on public houses. Almost all of my houses are public with locked doors. I don't care for people snooping inside my houses. But I like to have vendors or I am doing chicken lizards... (they pop outside when you hatch them in a private house).

Also, why didn't you just ban the creature? You can hide in your own house, then ban it.

Sorry your story just don't hold water or there is more to it.
 

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I just went on TC and threw together something similar to what I had at my house when the GM showed up. Obviously I didn't bother with a whole house or deco, but just to give you the general idea.
That's a typical 'pen' I see on a lot of RP Taverns, In fact I often park my horse in them, I wonder if that's illegal? :(
 

smip

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It has been reported in the past about people getting suspensions because they had pets in their houses, usually in pens for bard training. They would either get a suspenion due to having a illegal house design (pens) or for having pets in the pens being used for skill gains.
Hmmm. Dunno how true that statement was. After moveing my tamer to Catskills, my chicken coops acted like they didn't belong to me. A GM had to come to fix that. Not only my coops, but when I claimed them, the animails themselves acted like they didn't belong to me. The GM had to fix each one.

Now, the reason I question this (although I know that illegal use for skill gain is a no no) is because he was here at my house and complemented on my chicken lizard setup... see pic below.



So I'm a bit confused on this one.
 

Black Sun

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I just went on TC and threw together something similar to what I had at my house when the GM showed up. Obviously I didn't bother with a whole house or deco, but just to give you the general idea.
That's a typical 'pen' I see on a lot of RP Taverns, In fact I often park my horse in them, I wonder if that's illegal? :(
As far as I'm concerned it shouldn't be, unless you're using it to work skills. I can see why that's bannable. But illegal house design? Please. That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard of. I suppose it all really depends if the GM has a bug up his butt if one should happen to get called to your house simply for you having pens/stables.
 

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There DEFINATELY has to be more to this story than appears. Everyone hase the "leave house" feature on them just because of people getting trapped in felucca houses. You DON'T get banned for haveing locked doors on public houses. Almost all of my houses are public with locked doors. I don't care for people snooping inside my houses. But I like to have vendors or I am doing chicken lizards... (they pop outside when you hatch them in a private house).

Also, why didn't you just ban the creature? You can hide in your own house, then ban it.

Sorry your story just don't hold water or there is more to it.
Ok, fess up.
You didn't read the OP's post did you. You just quoted after skimming it.
 
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I felt the need to come back and clarify more of what happened in my situation. I found out after I posted this that someone was training a cu in my stable at my house. They were at the keyboard and were paged on. The GM showed up and they talked to the GM who gave them a warning. Eight hours later I was banned for illegal house design.

For those of you who have been supportive, thanks and I did message Cal back in hopes that the punishment in the future will go to the person "committing the crime" instead of the public house owner.

For those of you who don't believe me, I'm sorry but I have no reason to lie. I'm not asking for a free month nor do I want it. I'm not a dbag to my neighbors (that would be my husband btw). And I personally own only one account. My husband also owns one but I don't play his and he does not play mine. No it wasn't him who was at my house.

Thank you,Mariam!

To follow up ...

I did speak with the lead CSR about this, and GMs are trained on how to deal with this ... However, we could all learn and grow from every experience.

Again, I did follow up, but I will try to get more info out about both what is an acceptable practice and what is an offense in terms of proper home design and use.

- Cal
 

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Thank you,Mariam!

To follow up ...

I did speak with the lead CSR about this, and GMs are trained on how to deal with this ... However, we could all learn and grow from every experience.

Again, I did follow up, but I will try to get more info out about both what is an acceptable practice and what is an offense in terms of proper home design and use.

- Cal
Thank you, Cal!!!

You and the new Dev team have been doing an awesome job in communicating with your users lately. It seems that when there is problems presented on the boards, you guys really do try to help and solve.

EA Customer Service has a lot to learn and so does the GM team, and I'm glad to hear you guys are willing to listen and take in our concerns and work for a better UO team. =]
 

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Again, I did follow up, but I will try to get more info out about both what is an acceptable practice and what is an offense in terms of proper home design and use.
Uh, Cal... aren't you the man in charge? Shouldn't you already know what is acceptable practice? And if you don't, shouldn't you be in on the discussion and be the one who sets the criteria for acceptable practices?

Leaving it to a bunch of GMs who, by and large, don't play the game they support is, well, discouraging.
 

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Thank you Cal for looking into this, things are looking up on alot of fronts :)

But one issue with the GM's is that many things/punishments are up to GM discretion. You may get a warning for something from one, a small ban from another and a perma ban from another, all for the same offense and situation. I think this really needs to be addressed. There needs to be set guidlines, punishments and avenue for dispute.

I have a RL friend that used to play. Him and his wife had 5 accounts. One day one of their sons decided to log in and create a character. There was a guy that was harassing him and he paged a GM. While waiting for the GM the guy continued to harass and the son got upset and called the harasser an ***hole. The GM saw this and he was perma-banned. No marks ever on his account, this was verified. I helped my friend try to appeal the perma ban. He lost. We had both seen people called on for being called worse things and got temp bans or warnings.

This is just one example of GM discretion punishments.
 

Bazer

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hate to say it but sorta agree with that cartoon, ive had that happen way to many times, even sounded like the people ive called
 
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MariamATL

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ROFL....can you read or did you just choose not to??? I was not ingame and had not been in game in a few days. I did NOT have locked doors hence the problems!! I can't ban a creature that I don't know is there. If I'm not in game and not there then I can't ban it. Remember if you read my post, this all happened while I was offline SLEEPING!

Wow......

Oh yeah and if you find my post further down, there is more to the story.


There DEFINATELY has to be more to this story than appears. Everyone hase the "leave house" feature on them just because of people getting trapped in felucca houses. You DON'T get banned for haveing locked doors on public houses. Almost all of my houses are public with locked doors. I don't care for people snooping inside my houses. But I like to have vendors or I am doing chicken lizards... (they pop outside when you hatch them in a private house).

Also, why didn't you just ban the creature? You can hide in your own house, then ban it.

Sorry your story just don't hold water or there is more to it.
 
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MariamATL

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Since this was built with game mechanics that are legal it should not be considered illegal. but since it is considered illegal then no one should be able to commit their customized house design with stables that block animals from getting out.
Also if stables are just for show set all stable doors to house owner that way no one can use them for illegal purposes


Although I felt REALLY REALLY stupid after reading your post, THANK YOU!!! I did not realize that: a) stable doors were able to be set with security and b) I would ever need to set them. I just logged and changed both stable doors to owner only!! THANKS AGAIN!!! I always assumed they were decor and not real doors so that they would not need security features on them!
 
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