[UO Herald] Publish 70.04 Available on Test Center 1 Today

[RaDian FlGith]

ahahahah
the most hated stealable item that needs to make the distillery is the copper wire

ahahahaha

Mythic's developers can't come up with useful ways to make the thief an active part of the game, so once every two years they're going to introduce a craftable item that needs a thief in order to steal a component necessary to its construction.

Oh, my sides. It's hysterical. I just. Can't. Stop. Laughing.

Ow.

Ow.

I can't breathe.

 

[Pinco]

the garden bed comes in 4 different styles and the big one can hold up to 9 seeds!

very nice also the rustic bench and the new gothic windows :O

 

[Martyna Zmuir]

They've had them ask people for fixes that would make the SA artwork a bit cleaner (take a look at the various gargish staircases in SA with all their goofy dangling bits for an example), and yet, while half a dozen people right here in the forums could take the five, ten minutes it would take per piece of artwork to fix the errors in them, apparently the "art team" can't find the time to fix these issues.

I'd LOVE to know what the UO "art team" does all day long. The handful of new art pieces would have taken most people a week or two to complete. They aren't intricate designs or complex shapes...

I don't even know what Grimm Omen's job on the "art team" is anymore, but it surely has nothing to do with quality, art, responsibility, or anything even remotely related to those three words.

This. Just. This.

 

[Demonous]

its after 6... common shards, oh nm i didnt know i had to patch...

 

[Eyes of Origin]

hey since everyones reading this.. just to be sure cause i've never done anything on test...placing a house on test doesnt count against house placements on normal shards, does it?

 

[Pinco]

hey since everyones reading this.. just to be sure cause i've never done anything on test...placing a house on test doesnt count against house placements on normal shards, does it?

test center is not attached to the other shards... whatever you doing here will stay there...

 

[RaDian FlGith]

hey since everyones reading this.. just to be sure cause i've never done anything on test...placing a house on test doesnt count against house placements on normal shards, does it?

It does not count against regular house placement on the normal shards.

 

[Martyna Zmuir]

ahahahah
the most hated stealable item that needs to make the distillery is the copper wire

Thats. Seriously. Pathetic.

I said it would be copper tubing when the distillery was announced. Sadly, I wasn't far off.

We have COPPER ORE/INGOTS. We have GRANDMASTER TINKERS. Rolling out a stupid length of fracking wire should be well within our capabilities.

I have a lgendary thief and I find this insulting and pointless.

FAIL.

 

[nynyve]

ahahahah
the most hated stealable item that needs to make the distillery is the copper wire

I suppose it is out of the question that a GM tinker, who can create a multiplicity of items could craft copper wire? Copper is mineable after all.

Just what I wanted-- to stand in line to steal some wire...this is petty.

This goes back to the truly bizarre magic item system of the game. Items drop that no one would ever believably craft. Even using suspension of disbelief and the existence of magic, one would have to assume that the goal of npcs who craft items do so for financial gain. That requires meeting a demand. But most of the items that show up and one imagines have been "crafted" appear to have been made without regards to customer demands or even utility.

But instead of fixing the basic system that generates the items, they added imbuing. Which is a good concept, but adds another layer of complexity to the game, ups the power level, etc.

 

[Pinco]

copper wire can't be crafted...

another thing to note about the garden bed:
the garden bed must be removed in order to customize the house (like the ML cauldron and the others ML fornitures), and in order to remove it you must remove all the plants first!

 

[Hobo Sapien]

Nothing Like a good Patch to get the natives all FIRED up. You would have thought they took away Cigarettes and Beer.............. Got to Love it

 

[Storm]

here is a link to pics on TC
http://vboards.stratics.com/uo-test-center/242093-pub-70-04-pics.html#post1959047

 

[RaDian FlGith]

copper wire can't be crafted...

No ****... I think the suggestion was, and I know it's probably a stretch... but rather than, you know, artificially involve thieves in the crafting system, why not, you know, add an item to a system that makes sense. Then, you know, find a decent way to make thieves a part of the game instead of constantly coming up with lame ideas to keep them involved?

another thing to note about the garden bed:
the garden bed must be removed in order to customize the house (like the ML cauldron and the others ML fornitures), and in order to remove it you must remove all the plants first!

Yeah... no surprise there.

God forbid their programmers actually find a way to make special containers store their contents and locations within the house in a way that doesn't require people to have to disassemble their houses first.

I mean, for that matter, god only knows why it's necessary in the first place. Any item should know the component pieces that it needs to build itself, and any container in game already knows what it holds. Why in the world there are a couple of special items that all of a sudden go wonky when they're stored external to the world placement (ie: the moving crate) is a bit strange.

But, you know, in order to figure stuff out like that, they'd have to be able to do some programming and spend time doing stuff that was meaningful to the game rather than coming up with tidbits of content that -- completely contrary to the announcement by Cal where he said the idea of boosters (ie: mini expansions) was so that they could be developed concurrently with the live content and bug fixes -- completely distract the developers (all four of them) from completing anything else. And, yeesh... two mini-boosters (ie: mini mini expansions) in this form... they're stretching for everything they can now.

Wonder how the subscription numbers look these days.

 

[Eyes of Origin]

Ok were roof tiles and new doors not included for some reason? oh and no new foundations either.

Gothic walls are awesome tho, imo. Rustic is, well, rustic

 

[RaDian FlGith]

here is a link to pics on TC
http://vboards.stratics.com/uo-test-center/242093-pub-70-04-pics.html#post1959047

Let me guess... there's a finite number of stalls.

And... who in the world is handling their user interface design these days?

Oy.

 

[Tanivar]

I have lost at least 90% of every plant I started due to not being able to log in often enough to properly care for them (which is fitting since in the real world, in my family of green thumbs, I'm the lone black thumb when it comes to plant life. Even cactus shudder before me).
So that alone might be worth it to me.

Change to backpack gardening. The plants only do a growth step if the character carrying them is logged in and it's been 23 hours since the last growth step. I've got plants in backpacks that were started over a month ago I do when I feel like doing the clicking. Only time I wind up with sick plants is when I log in a character for some reason other than plant tending, and put off doing the now needed tending until later, and don't get to it. Then log the character in a day later and another growth check happens.

If you use the CC, UOAssist's Use Once Agent makes tending up to 100 plants in a container very easy. I have it set up so the wheel button opens a plant's tending window, the left button applys water and potions, the right button closes that window. Repeat until it announces the Use Once list is empty. The plant container must be open to add it's contents to the Use Once list.

The EC may have a macro for backpack plant growing as well.

 

[RaDian FlGith]

Ok were roof tiles and new doors not included for some reason? oh and no new foundations either.

Heh... They probably can't figure out how to render roof tiles. And for some reason, they only occasionally consider foundations.

Doors...

Heck, I'm still trying to figure out why there's certain doors in the housing set that only open in one direction. It's not as if it would have been difficult to make the doors open in both directions.

*shrugs*

But, I mean, you know... this is the Dark Age of Ultima. What do we expect?

 

[Gunga_Din]

Is there a third choice if u don't like either of those packs?

The way they split up the packs is just wrong. Adios.

 

[nynyve]

I'd LOVE to know what the UO "art team" does all day long. The handful of new art pieces would have taken most people a week or two to complete. They aren't intricate designs or complex shapes...




This. Just. This.

As a trained art historian, I have asked myself this often. With the proliferation of visual sources on the internet and excellent books on design and art available it is even more mysterious.

If they are looking for small items that would provide a good source of inspiration than the team should look at both modern and antique dollhouse furniture and accessories. There are numerous resources for this on the web. Illuminated manuscripts would also provide lovely source material.

Don't get me started on the color palette in UO.

 

[Martyna Zmuir]

This pic kinda sums up the vendor stall situation: (thanks Storm!)

1 mil for who knows how long...

So its a market for the rich to get richer. (Reality Check: Not every player thinks 1m is pocket change, nor has 100+ mil in the bank.)

 

[Pinco]

the pet vendor looks very bad...
I mean, rent a vendor for 1 week... and a weekly auction to win the spot?

This place should have some NPC vendors able to store the pet you have for sale (all the pet of everyone) and have a filter to search what are you looking for...

 

[Gheed]

So... If I buy the rustic pack thinger and put rustic pack deco tiles in my house, can I trade the plot to someone without the theme pack?

 

[nynyve]

T


1 mil for who knows how long...

So its a market for the rich to get richer. (Reality Check: Not every player thinks 1m is pocket change, nor has 100+ mil in the bank.)

The gold sellers are probably laughing all the way to the bank. Another reason to buy gold.

 

[RaDian FlGith]

the pet vendor looks very bad...
I mean, rent a vendor for 1 week... and a weekly auction to win the spot?

This place should have some NPC vendors able to store the pet you have for sale (all the pet of everyone) and have a filter to search what are you looking for...

Hey, something we agree on.

I have no idea who came up with the "Magincia Bizarre" (spelling on purpose), but really, this idea shouldn't have made it past "proposal."

 

[Storm]

Let me guess... there's a finite number of stalls.

And... who in the world is handling their user interface design these days?

Oy.

I did not count them but there where several basically about 6x6 and all the areas under construction on production seemed to have them do to rl stuff i had to run!

 

[claudia-fjp]

WTB non shard copy TC PST...

 

[olduofan]

why didnt they make the planters 1 tile wide like a 1x1 1x2 1x3 1x4 1x5 so we could use them like planters out side windows and on the front steeps but the blocked style steeps not the stairs? the current planters (new planters) are to bulky for my houses. anther thing will we be able to get resources off the plants ? I dont see the new style open stairs either? The chest just sends to bank like bag of sending and has 50 charges wtf why make it use charges but the plants dont have to use potions after all we have to pay real money for these items ?

 

[Storm]

This pic kinda sums up the vendor stall situation: (thanks Storm!)

1 mil for who knows how long...

So its a market for the rich to get richer. (Reality Check: Not every player thinks 1m is pocket change, nor has 100+ mil in the bank.)

I only bid 1 mill to get a spot so i could test it there are many stalls so i dont think they will go for that much especially after the newness goes away

 

[Eyes of Origin]

Ok question(s)...............


1. Are we allowed one planter per char or per account? (I'm guessing per char)

2. Will you still be able to collect resources from plants if you plant them in the container? (Sorry if this has been answered somewhere else already)

3. I chose the large planter... but are the south, east ones different?

4. It would be nice to see just the planter art itself made useful. Like grow the plant in the container, then when it turns to deco it stays there. Make it 1 tile, 3 tiles, for more deco options.

And to be honest, I like the planters.. not because I dont like taking care of 200 plants a day, but because we can actually have nice planters in our houses, that arent made from something else (i.e. water troughs)

 

[Storm]

fyi looks to be 54 stalls at this time

 

[olduofan]

Ok question(s)...............


1. Are we allowed one planter per char or per account? (I'm guessing per char)

2. Will you still be able to collect resources from plants if you plant them in the container? (Sorry if this has been answered somewhere else already)

3. I chose the large planter... but are the south, east ones different?

4. It would be nice to see just the planter art itself made useful. Like grow the plant in the container, then when it turns to deco it stays there. Make it 1 tile, 3 tiles, for more deco options.

And to be honest, I like the planters.. not because I dont like taking care of 200 plants a day, but because we can actually have nice planters in our houses, that arent made from something else (i.e. water troughs)

you can redeed them and choose again

they come in 4x4 4x6(s) 6x4(e) and 9x9 and if you cursor over them it high lights so im thinking only 4 plants small 6 medium and 9 in the large

 

[Eyes of Origin]

you can redeed them and choose again

they come in 4x4 4x6(s) 6x4(e) and 9x9 and if you cursor over them it high lights so im thinking only 4 plants small 6 medium and 9 in the large

ahh ok ty.... I didnt have an axe on me and figured i would just throw this question in with the others I had.



This kinda sucks... I want the rustic pack for the garden bed and distilling.. but i like the gothic walls. =/

 

[Nereus]

Better have updated house foundations...

Since the patch I can no longer enter my house. Either the foundation or the front steps are blocking movement or are out of alignment.

When standing on the new arcane circle, does anyone else feel like the ground is tilted and you're sliding downhill[?] Preferred the prepatch graphic.

 

[kulder]

Something else I am not gonna be able to buy ,they like my credit card for my monthly sub but are afraid of it when I want to buy some thing from them as usual I will buy it in game

 

[Barok]

RE: copper wire

So, am I the only one who noticed the item that the devs chose to involve thieves can be obtained from the barrels in Bucs Den smithy without stealing?

Sad, the devs don't know their own game...

 

[olduofan]

why didnt they make the planters 1 tile wide like a 1x1 1x2 1x3 1x4 1x5 so we could use them like planters out side windows and on the front steeps but the blocked style steeps not the stairs? the current planters (new planters) are to bulky for my houses

to clarify this add those sizes as well what I would like to see is planters like pots the the vet reward potted plants or rubble pots as well

Ok question(s)...............


1. Are we allowed one planter per char or per account? (I'm guessing per char)


3. I chose the large planter... but are the south, east ones different?

4. It would be nice to see just the planter art itself made useful. Like grow the plant in the container, then when it turns to deco it stays there. Make it 1 tile, 3 tiles, for more deco options.

And to be honest, I like the planters.. not because I dont like taking care of 200 plants a day, but because we can actually have nice planters in our houses, that arent made from something else (i.e. water troughs)

Im gonna bet its one per account and the planters all look the same just different sizes

 

[RaDian FlGith]

they come in 4x4 4x6(s) 6x4(e) and 9x9 and if you cursor over them it high lights so im thinking only 4 plants small 6 medium and 9 in the large

Oy... really?

Okay, I sort of applaud the idea of the "planter" (someone just has a nomenclature issue at Mythic, I guess) being of different sizes, but then I have to ask:

Where are the 1x1, 1x2, 1x4, and so on so you could feasibly do some cool decorating with them?

And... are they one per character/account?

 

[Martyna Zmuir]

When standing on the new arcane circle, does anyone else feel like the ground is tilted and you're sliding downhill[?] Preferred the prepatch graphic.

Damn. Thats. FUGLY.

Why exactly did the Arcane Circles need redone? And then why were they drawn in crayon by a drunken toddler?

Revert to the old art. These suck. Seriously.

Edit: This is in the EC. Its lacking definition and the color saturation is awful. So much for high-res graphics, eh?

 

[olduofan]

RE: copper wire

So, am I the only one who noticed the item that the devs chose to involve thieves can be obtained from the barrels in Bucs Den smithy without stealing?

Sad, the devs don't know their own game...

no chit kinda funny dont need a thief at all just pick them up, its just a daily spawn and if those barrels are opened it will spawn every 20 minutes or so I have noticed that copper and iron wire does not spawn nearly as much as silver and gold lately.

 

[olduofan]

Oy... really?

Okay, I sort of applaud the idea of the "planter" (someone just has a nomenclature issue at Mythic, I guess) being of different sizes, but then I have to ask:

Where are the 1x1, 1x2, 1x4, and so on so you could feasibly do some cool decorating with them?

And... are they one per character/account?

exactly they are way to big/bulky for my houses not sure why they didn't add more size options 1x anything would have been better imo

on test 2 of my characters claimed both so no clue I would thing 1 per account tho this is ea

 

[Metalstorm]

Is there a third choice if u don't like either of those packs?

The way they split up the packs is just wrong. Adios.

Yes there is a third choice.
The third choice is to not buy either and hold onto your $$ until a booster that does interest you becomes available.

Not buying a booster won't make the game any lesser.

i.e. The rustic pack interests me so I will probably buy it. The gothic one does not interest me so I will most likely not buy it. Not having the gothic pack will not change my game or make it less fun.

The only thing that brings a frown to my face is if it's true that you must choose between the commodity broker and the pet broker. I will save my thoughts on that until I know if it's a fact or an assumption.

 

[olduofan]

Damn. Thats. FUGLY.

Why exactly did the Arcane Circles need redone? And then why were they drawn in crayon by a drunken toddler?

Revert to the old art. These suck. Seriously.

WTH i just tried to redeed mine and it just cut it up in small chunks it didn't turn back in to a deed unreal why do they mess with things like this that wasn't game breaking then break them ? speechless on this one but not surprised

 

[Capn Kranky]

If the theme packs herald other goodies to go along with them - and they can be bought together or separately maybe. However if the TC publish is all there is and I will be expected to shell out more than US$1.99 then they will not make money off me.

I saw HS as a fail in many aspects and did not purchase it ... based on the cost to even do battle and the bugs that apparently still remain I am seriously happy about the decision.

 

[Capn Kranky]

Do YOU call this any sort of effective game enhancement? It appears many do not.

 

[Capn Kranky]

<sigh> If this is all there is ... disappointed I am. <shakes head>

 

[Vyal]

I don't plan on buying anything...
Seriously make people purchase something to use anything in this publish. I already pay 9 bucks a month for 13 year old 2d graphic mmo.

 

[Martyna Zmuir]

*sigh*

Partially hued items in the EC are now COMPLETELY HUED!

Beds, chairs, banners, gift boxes, dye tube... the list goes on and on.

Seriously, how do things like this get past whatever they laughingly call internal QA? Does anyone even BOTHER to look at this stuff in the client before patching it to us?

Yet. Another. FAIL.

 

[Storm]

I just walked into my house and noticed all my dye tubs are totaly hued my black tun looks like a blob

 

[Mapper]

I just walked into my house and noticed all my dye tubs are totaly hued my black tun looks like a blob

Rather different isn't it.

 

[FishinFool]

The new housing tilesets look like ****.

There are not enough tiles with any variety to it. The gothic tiles dont quite look right next to each other and the rustic is a total joke.