I think I'll wait a week after this next publish to log on. If this detection program works anything like EA's past blunders, I want the devs to know it so I don't log on with vent, automap, ICQ or something else running and have it mistake it for an illegal third party program.
Thank you. Im watching the events as it unfolds. But I want to be prepared. If they establish a automated system to warn all accounts or ban all accounts in UO the exodus would be huge. not sure if this also being implemented on asian shards though then we really see a giant drop. Assuming UO is comprised of 70k paid accounts and am being very generous thats'a a average of 8.4mil a year. Sounds good right. Now Assuming 30% of accounts are eventually banned once again im giving a low number estimete thats a 2.52 mil loss per year within a short period. The executives are not going to like that couple with the continue gradual yearly decrease of UO accounts and the expenses. Heads will roll. People will be fired and probably a reason why so many long time dev suddenly left when they could they might of known what was coming. There final fellwell was giving us a system that makes all other systems obsolete and all pvm eventually hit the wall knowing that when the wall is hit UO will end anyway. I am assuming here but it does make sense if you put all the pieces together.
decisions decisions. Everyone get ready for PUB 666!!!
Ummm.... yeah, actually most of them do send back the information to the company for tracking purposes. Where do you think their stats for infected PC's come from?
Personally, I have the feeling that a detection type program has been in UO for quite a while now. But, that is just my opinion.
Are you one of those people that says, "Ok you can open just one present tonight, but the rest are for the morning."What this really is is a stall tactic because I am in the middle of three other things tonight, and don't have time to write a full letter until tomorrow.
Which means there's no way it can run the gauntlet of marketing and community until Thurdsay ... BUT! I wanted to let you know what's on my mind. (Also, I have to send it in time to get translated in Japanese)... No .. nothing is ever simple.
66 is on the verge of coming to test center, and therein you will see a lot of the Pub Notes, also I'll give more info as I have time to give my full attention to a proper update.
Hope this helps.
Nice to hear.
I guess this number of hoops to jump through before we can be told anything kind of explains why it takes so long to hear stuff.
Same here. I think it's actually been running, off and on, since about October or November of last year.
Don't bash it until you see what happens. Devs probably wont even start banning until they know the magnitude of the 3rd party program users. Same with factions. There are no absolute for factions but testing and actually listening to feedback. Hence no definitive updates that will reach the real shards out there.
There's quite a bit of truth to what you're saying there. Wait till they find out how MANY people use "programs" for oddball things, training etc. Don't get me wrong it's about time some anti cheating stuff went in for the speedhackers and pvp scripters etc. I think it's a little LATE considering the age of the game and it's gonna punish a LOT of players who might script things like training while ATTENDED just to save some hand cramping.
Since you are apparently already enforcing bans and suspensions about these issues - see ;
Yeah, one thing people are forgetting is that the "ebil cheaters" make up friends, guilds, community and even events on shards. This means that legitimate players will be affected too and would possibly quit once their friends, guildmates, community organizers or event managers quit/get banned.
Well, thats the thing, at first it won't be apparent, as not too many people use other programs constantly, but more on a "need" basis. Not to mention many will likely adopt a "wait and see" approach and as such the impact in the beginning will be minor.
I think he meant palatable....
That has to be the biggest heap of horse crap I've read in this thread rolleyes:
And finding a vendor and buying it from a well known shop like I normally would have also involves communicating with players?
It might improve EA's credibility. Or would it be Mythics? I think only SWG fans rant more against SOE than gamers against EA.
just another nail in the coffin for UO.....
news flash: more people script than don't, and most UO players do not post on or visit this forum. partially due to the fact there is almost 0 interaction with developers, partially due to the heavy handed censorship by stratics mods.
Show me the numbers, and the source you got them from please, because frankly, I don't believe you have any solid proof.
from one of the top 3 spammers...
I quite like this idea!Nice to hear.
I always imagined an in game solution on punishing cheaters like locking them in chains in Yew Prison where they would have to burn Criminal Points while suffering the Jeers and heckles of onlookers.
See, here's your problem... you read into things, entirely what YOU want to read. The points he raised over the choice of forums for EA/Mythic to voice things, is entirely valid. Stratics has always been just a part of the wider forums audience where UO is discussed over the years. Anyone can make whatever assumptions over why EA/Mythic chose Stratics over the other forums out there.from one of the top 3 spammers...
http://vboards.stratics.com/showpost.php?p=1679444&postcount=4
"and since stratics took on the responsibility of being the ONLY place to reach Devs, they MUST accept they now must deal with it. that's why every other forums is pissed off, I did NOT want to leave markee dragon to come over here. the ONLY reason I am here is cause I was forced to be here against my will. and if I EVER get banned from stratics I will cancel all my UO accounts because stratics should not get in the way of me learning about the game I'm playing."
http://vboards.stratics.com/showpost.php?p=1661424&postcount=718
"EA turning the wellbeing of their game over to stratics was the WORST idea ever. I'm a markee dragon founder, and long time reader of UOforums, both of which hate stratics for solid reasons, I also hate this place and still feel dirty being here, they have done nothing but build a negative rep since their get go almost. but alas, I'm forced to be here because they are now the gateway to the devs and such. sad, but hey, nothing I can do."
http://vboards.stratics.com/showpost.php?p=1732853&postcount=25
"just hope it doesn't collapse UO when 99% of the accounts get banned [for cheating]"
...thus further showing your abundance of ability to highlight points to further your own flawed opinions, whilst neglecting to answer questions that actually have some substance.
Ok Jack lets start with all those who use the website to find things at luna shops. They may no endorse scripting but by using the search engine they too are scripting. Then there are the people who just train skills, while still being at the computer. The chap down doing one of the new SA spawns running a looting script on the monsters he kills. These are the less serous scripts.
you're right, I don't. nobody does.
There's no true solid proof, but then again, there's no proof whatsoever that most don't.
Heh, the thread is full of quotes, be more specific?
Dude, no offense, but you're a troll.See, here's your problem... you read into things, entirely what YOU want to read. The points he raised over the choice of forums for EA/Mythic to voice things, is entirely valid. Stratics has always been just a part of the wider forums audience where UO is discussed over the years. Anyone can make whatever assumptions over why EA/Mythic chose Stratics over the other forums out there.
I fail to see anywhere where he makes suggestions about cheating or farming for gold, to sell on Markee Dragon. He mentions rares, that's all. Rare items within UO have always had value to many players over the years. If people want to pay for pixels, then that's entirely up to them, but that wasn't mentioned.
However, in your "wisdom", you failed to answer the following question...
...thus further showing your abundance of ability to highlight points to further your own flawed opinions, whilst neglecting to answer questions that actually have some substance.
/agree
So lets assume 50% of the UO population scripts. Then lets assume that 25% of them reply on scripting so much that they wont want to play any more. Do you really think UO will thrive with 25% subscriptions? Of course it wont.
Receiving the benefits of someone that scripted and scripting yourself are not the same thing, and does not mean that you endorse scripting. Using one of the search sites is no different than buying something off of a vendor in Luna.
Just because there are a lot of scripts out there doesn't mean there are a lot of people using them. The most prevalent use of scripting in the game happens in Fel, among a minority of the players, which should say a lot.
