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NEWS [UO.Com] Publish and Patch today (Read post #292 before posting))
The people demand justice!
*Blinks* Are you calling ME a duper? I have a feeling that I'm missing some intent at humor...
Oh wait... I get it. *laughs* Annihilation of all the Stark Family in GoT.
YES! Treat these dupers like George R. R. Martin treats every character his fans love!!!!
YES! Treat these dupers like George R. R. Martin treats every character his fans love!!!!
Well met Mesanna and I thank you for your repair of this matter.
Players of UO will be happy for this quick action.
Players of UO will be happy for this quick action.
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This is the stuff that Legends are made of and celebrated by songs of the Bards.
*Settles back down to the fire and lifts a glass of Good Old Moonglow Red in Salute.*
*Flips a gold coin to the Bard sitting in the corner playing on his lute*
"Let's have a new story Tanis"
*Settles back down to the fire and lifts a glass of Good Old Moonglow Red in Salute.*
*Flips a gold coin to the Bard sitting in the corner playing on his lute*
"Let's have a new story Tanis"
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After this publish, we investigated further and discovered that only a small group of players exploited the dupe of the shield tokens. We are deleting those tokens and reverting the fix back by Monday at the latest.
It was not our intention to punish any innocent players, but to remove the 18,000 tokens that where duped. We have seized the houses and actioned the accounts of those responsible.
We appreciate your patience while we resolve this matter.[/QU
Thank You Mesanna!!..........:woman:
@Mesanna It is good that this is being reverted. I hope you punished the traitorous scum in such a manner as they won't be able to easily return.
In the future, please always 'investigate further' before making a knee-jerk reaction publish that sends the community into a self-destructive frenzy. I think the adage "measure twice, cut once" is appropriate here.
In the future, please always 'investigate further' before making a knee-jerk reaction publish that sends the community into a self-destructive frenzy. I think the adage "measure twice, cut once" is appropriate here.
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I totally disagree. In a case like this - I think it is best to take immediate action to halt things while the investigation is carried out. As an analogy... If you cut your ankle badly - wouldn't you want a tourniquet to stop the blood loss while they fix the problem?
I like that many here stated their cases professionally without resorting to name-calling, etc. It's sad that a few jumped to extremes without giving the dev's time to complete things.
I know everyone wanted immediate answers - but personally - I am glad the dev's were instead working on the real problem and getting a good solution that I think everyone can be happy with (except the dupers
).
I have never loved you more than i do right now. *BIG HUGS*
(also... great job on banning some dupers, PLEASE keep doing that!)
I am greatly relieved to read Messana's message. Thank you. I had no idea Shard Shields were being exploited. I have been playing UO a long time and have several accounts with the shields. I use them mostly to help folks move their holiday gifts. I don't even make money off doing it. I also like to help groups get items for events, and I enjoy decorating. I have never exploited, or taken advantage of the shields in any way. I have looked forward to using these shields for a long time, and am greatly relieved to learn that hopefully things will be back to normal shortly.
The communication was late, but the masses are worshipful once again.
The burning question for me is, with account bound shield tokens, what the hell was anyone gonna go with 18k of em?!?!
sheeeesh
The burning question for me is, with account bound shield tokens, what the hell was anyone gonna go with 18k of em?!?!
sheeeesh
If this has been going on for months to a year+, as a few have implied, a knee-jerk reaction isn't necessary. In fact, one would think that allowing the exploiters to continue for a short period while being observed would be beneficial to the devs to crushing the problem. Think of it as a sting operation using the little fish to catch the Big Fish. Track their activities, their associates, then scoop them all up and delete their assets.
Since the 'further investigation' apparently occurred within a 24-hour period after the initial post, it couldn't have been that difficult.
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I still disagree. The implication/assumption that it's been going on for that long is a rumor and not something that can be verified. I don't base my beliefs on assumptions. I also do not see this as a knee-jerk reaction. I see this as a lock-down while things are searched out. I've seen the police lock down a 220 unit apartment community to investigate everyone on the property - and that way they caught the little fish and the big fish. I deal with this sort of sting all too often in my business and as I've heard a police officer say "It's much easier to count the roaches if you freeze everything first rather than try to do it while they are all scurrying around".
Keep up the good work @Mesanna!
Since day one UO has had so many bugs and exploits. At this point it kinda seems like a tradition. So can we get a round shield to carry around that says I survived the shard shield exploit? lol
I have a few xfer shields and use them from time to time. obviously not to the extent of some of you in this thread. what was so bad about the system in place they felt this change was necessary? are they gonna give an explination at all? all I see in this thread is people complaining........maybe rightfully so. I am just curious as to why.
But it may cut down on nearly every shard's EM event drop to be for sale with days, or even minutes after the event. If the patch helps with that, then I am all for it. Sorry.
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Mesanna's post above should clarify things on their end...
http://stratics.com/community/threads/uo-com-publish-and-patch-today.319432/#post-2415989
thank you!
Quite the plot twist I must say, & doubtful the guilty saw it coming. Kudos to the Dark Ladies mysterious wrath. *bows*After this publish, we investigated further and discovered that only a small group of players exploited the dupe of the shield tokens. We are deleting those tokens and reverting the fix back by Monday at the latest.
It was not our intention to punish any innocent players, but to remove the 18,000 tokens that where duped. We have seized the houses and actioned the accounts of those responsible.
We appreciate your patience while we resolve this matter.
Mesanna, Today at 4:10 PM
just a thought..... we already have Pillories in game right?
just saying, we already have them in game..... could we not put some people in there for some public shaming?
*runs to get the marshmallows for the burning in effigy*
just saying, we already have them in game..... could we not put some people in there for some public shaming?
*runs to get the marshmallows for the burning in effigy*
i hate to be the math nazi's here but 203 months is 16 years and 11 months, not 9.
sorry, my OCD was screaming at me to correct that.
out of curiosity
am i the only one that was logging in wondering if my house got deleted today?
i know i dont dupe but you always hear of innocent people getting rolled up in stuff like this.
logging in.... account still works..... is my house still there..... yes!
and my horde of shield tokens.... yup, all 4 of them still there!
am i the only one that was logging in wondering if my house got deleted today?
i know i dont dupe but you always hear of innocent people getting rolled up in stuff like this.
logging in.... account still works..... is my house still there..... yes!
and my horde of shield tokens.... yup, all 4 of them still there!
So, the two-week change is going to get reverted? If so, why exactly was it published in the first place, to somehow make it easier to find the player(s) responsible perhaps?
I'm glad something is being done, just kind of odd that there had to be a change to shard-shields/tokens put in such as this two-week timer for repeat transfers on the same character.
Hopefully the issue is fixed nonetheless.
It's also nice to see that guilty player(s) were found and dealt with.
I'm glad something is being done, just kind of odd that there had to be a change to shard-shields/tokens put in such as this two-week timer for repeat transfers on the same character.
Hopefully the issue is fixed nonetheless.
It's also nice to see that guilty player(s) were found and dealt with.
And we know this how? Sure it's been typed but this is from the same people who just yesterday thought the best solution to a rather unknown problem was to nerf every token that came from a shield. Are we to believe that they didn't have the ability to track down these 18K tokens, and the related accounts, yet they were aware of them all the same? The best that was said was " actioned the accounts of those responsible" which I certainly don't know what it really says. Suspended, banned, deleted or just removed the tokens and left everything else alone like the vendors with billions of suspect gold and who knows what other goodies(I'd love to not believe that the last option isn't the real " actioned the accounts of those responsible" but it certainly could be as you wouldn't want to piss off the all mighty random stranger on the interwebz).
*saddles up* Time to ride out and find those IDOC's!
It's just based on Mesanna's post, she posted that they have "Seized houses", so that to me, implies they have caught player(s) if it's true, I would assume all the houses that have been seized would be "Owned by OSI" or something like that, nothing more.
This times 1000
Aye, I guess I'm just skeptical.
No way. Exploiters gotz phat loot. Let em decay
glad this was resolved, but this could of been worse could of been posted on friday
Only if you find it and give me a heads up on location before they dropNo way. Exploiters gotz phat loot. Let em decay
as rainman would say.... im not wearing my underwear.
I was just thinking of what an amazing PR event this could be. Why can't the team post pics and coordinates of the houses. Make them public but clear the access list and let the player base see what has gone on. I know that lots of people would love to know who and where these places were. Suspend the accounts for a year+ but don't ban them, I think the owner(s) should be on the hook to clear the CC billing.
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It makes sense to take the house and review the other items stored there which would have been obviously duped.
Some good insight could have been gained before deleting it and all the contents.
In the end I would like to see everything deleted
Some good insight could have been gained before deleting it and all the contents.
In the end I would like to see everything deleted
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No
They said ok we screwed up, heard you, and fixed it.
They said ok we screwed up, heard you, and fixed it.
im still mad. it was handled terribly, and just shows how bad a state UO is in. this is basic stuff. get your wording right, FIX problems BEFORE the masses even realize its a problem. thats the way a healthy game operates. obviously, we're lucky OSI UO still even exists. its stuff like this that makes people just lose faith and take refuge in the free shards tho.
Do the deed against all and pay the price... I am quite sure this time the tokens and all will be poofed and the people who had a hand in this will pay the hard way. 18,k wow is all i can say to that number... amazingly stupid.
I smell Some New idocs On the Horizion 
Ok Pookie time to ........
Ok Pookie time to ........