Sonoma PvP Thread

[Black Majick]

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lol 2x posts about me in 1 minute? Wow man you got serious obsessions over me. Either come to sonoma or just be quiet :&gt;.

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I say put up or shut up Worm. He has said plenty of times:

"Get with a broker, and have them let me know that they got the money, and I will be over!"

He is not gonna waste 14m to come beat you when you will not pay. I personally know that people do not pay up when they lose duels. It is something that people dont want to do. They open there mouths and the other person sticks his/her foot in it. If you dont want to duel him just say "Sorry you can beat me. I retract my offer for a 100m duel." Then just be done with it. One or the other man. Pick.


PS: Yes I have taken some dirt naps the past couple days PvPing. First time PvPing in around 3-4 months, so still getting back used to my macros. Ill prolly take some more too!

 

[Bigworm01]

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lol 2x posts about me in 1 minute? Wow man you got serious obsessions over me. Either come to sonoma or just be quiet :&gt;.

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I say put up or shut up Worm. He has said plenty of times:

"Get with a broker, and have them let me know that they got the money, and I will be over!"

He is not gonna waste 14m to come beat you when you will not pay. I personally know that people do not pay up when they lose duels. It is something that people dont want to do. They open there mouths and the other person sticks his/her foot in it. If you dont want to duel him just say "Sorry you can beat me. I retract my offer for a 100m duel." Then just be done with it. One or the other man. Pick.


PS: Yes I have taken some dirt naps the past couple days PvPing. First time PvPing in around 3-4 months, so still getting back used to my macros. Ill prolly take some more too!

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I say mind your own business. If hes so leet and has a 100m to put on a duel then he can put 14 on xfers to come fight me.

 

[trickmaster]

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lol 2x posts about me in 1 minute? Wow man you got serious obsessions over me. Either come to sonoma or just be quiet :&gt;.

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I say put up or shut up Worm. He has said plenty of times:

"Get with a broker, and have them let me know that they got the money, and I will be over!"

He is not gonna waste 14m to come beat you when you will not pay. I personally know that people do not pay up when they lose duels. It is something that people dont want to do. They open there mouths and the other person sticks his/her foot in it. If you dont want to duel him just say "Sorry you can beat me. I retract my offer for a 100m duel." Then just be done with it. One or the other man. Pick.


PS: Yes I have taken some dirt naps the past couple days PvPing. First time PvPing in around 3-4 months, so still getting back used to my macros. Ill prolly take some more too!

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I say mind your own business. If hes so leet and has a 100m to put on a duel then he can put 14 on xfers to come fight me.

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Oh the mind of a child...

Worm you don't even have 100m... you barely have 20m (if that, lol).

You're not going to put up money for a broker because you don't have it.

No one is going to waste 14m just to have you puss out. Why even continue this whole charade...

I guess it is like I said, you have the mind of a child

 

[Bigworm01]

Think what you want :&gt;.

 

[Guest]

Well personally putting up 100 mill is a little ridiculous. I know me I dont have 100 mill and if I did I wouldnt put it up in a duel. why not make a more reasonable offer where it isnt such a burden to the person if they lose? I personally agree with the way FOO went about there duels saying duel best 3 of 5 for 5 mill or more you can make the offer.

 

[Lizzo]

wow, been a long time since ive been on the forums... and funny thing is, you're all are still arguing bout the same stuff

 

[Black Majick]

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lol 2x posts about me in 1 minute? Wow man you got serious obsessions over me. Either come to sonoma or just be quiet :&gt;.

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I say put up or shut up Worm. He has said plenty of times:

"Get with a broker, and have them let me know that they got the money, and I will be over!"

He is not gonna waste 14m to come beat you when you will not pay. I personally know that people do not pay up when they lose duels. It is something that people dont want to do. They open there mouths and the other person sticks his/her foot in it. If you dont want to duel him just say "Sorry you can beat me. I retract my offer for a 100m duel." Then just be done with it. One or the other man. Pick.


PS: Yes I have taken some dirt naps the past couple days PvPing. First time PvPing in around 3-4 months, so still getting back used to my macros. Ill prolly take some more too!

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I say mind your own business. If hes so leet and has a 100m to put on a duel then he can put 14 on xfers to come fight me.

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Owe but it is my business. If I read this forum it is my business. If you did not want this to be a public affair you should have gone through with it in a different way. Just my thinking on it.

 

[slipperywhenwet]

I love listening to worms excuses.

 

[Calell]

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wow, been a long time since ive been on the forums... and funny thing is, you're all are still arguing bout the same stuff

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qft! haha Hey Liz how you been? ohay, here's something just for you!...
"he'd doggie and run off"

night!

 

[Black Majick]

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I love listening to worms excuses.

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Ya. They are getting weak. Same ole excuses after another.

 

[We Run It]

UO&lt;WOW

 

[Philos]

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UO&lt;WOW

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Either you're an idiot or have drastically changed your opinion.

 

[Cyrus16]

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UO&lt;WOW

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Either you're an idiot or have drastically changed your opinion.

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Hahahahahaha

 

[Seduction]

Falcon you have got to be the biggest piece of trash i've seen in uo {besides myself of course}...
You talk mad smack to me in the star room about how bad I suck and I need to quit uo, so I offer a duel yes! I wait at the farms, you finally show up... first spell night sight...second spell protection! Good Job!
OK, you kill me, congrats.. not that hard to kill an archer when you are using protection, I never claimed to be good but I won't walk away from a duel either, I may die but it's a game, a game that I don't need to have an ego over!
Respect is something you will never have from me, had you walked away and not smack talked well maybe but not only did you smack talk you rez killed me 3 times at the healers, live it up, you alone will not kill me that easy on the field as proven today in dsp!
So, go work some more skills afk and get some speech classes while you are at it, you wanna smack talk you have met your match!

 

[Guest]

YOU are calling Falcon trash? That is Irony Personified for you to do that Seduction, perhaps you should re-think your stance on calling people names and telling them to take classes on smacking talk here on stratics.
You never know when someone will get online and expose the truth about trash, probably wiser to just stay a meatsheild/puppet for your guildmates.

Enjoy!

 

[Bigworm01]

Falcon is garbage. End of discussion.

 

[slipperywhenwet]

Big Worm is too chicken to put his money where his mouth is. End of Discussion.

 

[Lord Ron Fellows]

seduction needs to go chop more wood. end of discussion.


but seriously, how are you as an ultima online player who has NEVER played a mage and ONLY knows how to play as an archer going to have any room whatsoever to talk a blip about falcon? you are garbage. plz never post in the pvp section again.

and worm yea Bark&gt;Bite

 

[Bigworm01]

Does anybody else see Slips obsession with me?

 

[Philos]

I thought Cyrus was Cyrus? Or is the spelling different?

 

[Cyrus16]

Cyrus is Cyrus; I think she replied to me because it was easier than to scroll up ever so slightly.

 

[Philos]

Makes sense.

 

[Guest]

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seduction needs to go chop more wood. end of discussion.


but seriously, how are you as an ultima online player who has NEVER played a mage and ONLY knows how to play as an archer going to have any room whatsoever to talk a blip about falcon? you are garbage. plz never post in the pvp section again.

and worm yea Bark&gt;Bite

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I often wonder where people who have never played a particular template (and I don't mean trained the skill and ran with it while it was gimplate chowder then ditched it for then next fad, but really worked all the kinks out of it and played it with dedication, thru thick and thin) get off trash talking down on templates.

Sure, some people who do that claim they ran such and such template back in the day, but nothing is like it was back in the day, and to say you ran a particular template pre-ren, pre-pub16, pre-aos, pre-se, or even pre-ml is like saying you drove a model-A ford back in the day, and thus, you know all about cars.

With very rare and brief exceptions (gimplates of the weak), all templates deserve their due, as well as the people who have worked to master them. Some templates are glass cannons that kill with efficiency until they are hit once or twice (most stealth and tamer templates). Glass-cannons are fun but not sustainable in drawn out fights. Then there are more durable field fighting dexxer and mage templates that can run and gun for hours, taking abusing and dishing it out. All require significant dedication and effort to master, and those who think otherwise are clearly mistaking impeccable timing and brilliant strategy for 'no skill templates' and/or hacking.

we have all spent time refining the templates we run with, to whatever degree of success that we enjoy. Some of us play to win UO with whatever gets the job done, and some play to win on our own terms. I personally have more respect for the latter, but it would be a fool who doesn't respect the skills of those who adapt (so long as the do so without cheating in the process).

 

[Philos]

Ron has played all template types. So have I. Granted, there are good and bad archers. You are correct templates that take time to master. However, playing a mage is the hardest. Archers are the easiest. They are easier than playing a dexxer.

 

[Guest]

I wasn't saying anything about Ron or his skills.

I agree, archery is about the easiest way to go, bang for buck, and magery is certainly more difficult, albeit, with monumental advantages for those who even begin to develop good timing and combos.

I personally find raw melee dexxers the most difficult, because the advantages one gains as a dexxer are the least significant for the amount of work one invests. To squeeze the most advantage out of a dexxer template, one needs to balance the timing of specials, spells, and weapon swaps carefully in order to not waste those precious fractions of a second that one needs to get as much abuse in as fast as possible... and unlike mages and archers, a dexxer needs to not just stay on screen with their foe, but actually close to the gap to deliver damage. Its a thankless task that is routinely looked down on by mages. An effective dexxer lacks the multipurpose capabilities and ranged attacks available to mages, along with the summons that make a mage an impromptu tamer on the fly.

Mages are certainly the apex of field pvp, but dexxers, sneaks, and tamers all require skill and knowledge that should not be discounted. I imagine archery has its nuances as well, but I am not qualified to comment. My only archer is actually a mage who happens to carry a bow... and not for much longer.

 

[slipperywhenwet]

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Does anybody else see Slips obsession with me?

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Does anyone else see worm's excuses? He still wont man up, not that he could he probably isnt a man.

 

[Philos]

Hey, they don't call me the best dexxer in the entire universe for nothing

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I am more than aware of the difficulties of being a dexxer. I was only bringing Ron's chars as it gives him some validity to respond in such a way. Whereas, Seduction...

 

[Bigworm01]

How is telling people your obsessed with me an excuse? lol

 

[Black Majick]

Philos. Get in game sometime soon and dexer duel me!?!?!

 

[Philos]

Worm just say "Slip I don't have 100m". [censored] sakes.

Edit- Don't have a dexxer.

 

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Hey, they don't call me the best dexxer in the entire universe for nothing

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I am more than aware of the difficulties of being a dexxer. I was only bringing Ron's chars as it gives him some validity to respond in such a way. Whereas, Seduction...

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I will always admit Ron has mad skills... I just think its a shame when he or anybody else discredits others for their skills, just because they are different than their own.

 

[imported_Vexxed]

The difference in difficulty with playing and archer and playing a mage is something on par with counting to 10 vs counting to 20. That's the "skill" (aka button slapping portion of it) The rest of it though..... Building a suit, designing a template, having the 120's... Mage = 20m ? Archery = 8m ??? That's where a mage gets harder. If there was really ever any reason to design the ULTIMATE dueling mage template / suit / skills etc... I'd be tempted to do it, but since being known as a "good dueler" dont' really mean [censored] to me there's little point. I'd rather simply be given the respect on the field that means no one flags without backup / bola's / or both... lol

 

[Lord Ron Fellows]

I was a fencer for 5 years, didnt have a clue how to play a mage. always wanted to, but never learned. once i transfered here to sonoma i picked it up and ran with it. once i got it down it made me feel like a doushebag for talking [censored] on my dexor all those years. i guess when i play a mele char or archer it just feels like- Click- Click- Boom. no fun. thats just me though.

 

[Lord Ron Fellows]

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The difference in difficulty with playing and archer and playing a mage is something on par with counting to 10 vs counting to 20. That's the "skill" (aka button slapping portion of it) The rest of it though..... Building a suit, designing a template, having the 120's... Mage = 20m ? Archery = 8m ??? That's where a mage gets harder. If there was really ever any reason to design the ULTIMATE dueling mage template / suit / skills etc... I'd be tempted to do it, but since being known as a "good dueler" dont' really mean [censored] to me there's little point. I'd rather simply be given the respect on the field that means no one flags without backup / bola's / or both... lol

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See but dueling translates to the field, if your a good duelist than your skill will transfer onto the field. 1v1 that is. and if its not 1v1 its a gank. and let me be the first to tell you, any gank wont earn you respect.

 

[We Run It]

Not trying to be rude but dueling is nothing like the field. I see people saying all the time "no specials" "no pots" just pure mage. And the i cant remember the last time a seen a pure mage template running around.

 

[trickmaster]

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Not trying to be rude but dueling is nothing like the field. I see people saying all the time "no specials" "no pots" just pure mage. And the i cant remember the last time a seen a pure mage template running around.

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To be honest, mage dueling skills do translate to the field pretty well. I see a lot of mages on the field that aren't that good cast 3-5 spells that include gheal, expl, ebolt, fs, poison, and miniheal. If they understood interrupts and cycling, their effectiveness on the field would be enhanced.

Not to pick on anyone in particular, but if you take, say, Calisto Dom, and watch how he/she fights, it's exactly as I describe. All big spells, no interrupts, poison, and greater heal. Terrible mage to be honest. IF he/she learned how to duel and how to use magery more effectively, rather than waiting for a nerve strike that may or may not come, he/she would become a better mage on the field.

It DOES translate in a variety of ways, above is only one way that I decided to name.

 

[Philos]

Philos translates to sexy. True story, guyz.

 

[imported_Vexxed]

Of course button slapping skillz are useful, but there's only so much you can do with just straight mage. All it really takes is one newbie to spam weaken on you (and there's always plenty of newbies) and all of a sudden your one form of offense (casting) becomes near impossible. If you had nervestrike, or other specials, or lethal poison, or strangle etc... your options open up alot. It's not like this game is very difficult to understand. It's an enhanced version or rock / paper / scissors..... For most templates, there's one that's great for killing it. The real trick is designing ones that are ALWAYS useful OR ones that are so specific they rock when used in their intended way. That's what 3f does best is build templates solely to function as a group... That always bugged me bc I've never really had the leisure of KNOWING I was going to be playing with Templates X, Y, Z..... A Tamer pvp Template that Cannot res their own pets Anyone ???? lol just cracks me up....

 

[slipperywhenwet]

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Worm just say "Slip I don't have 100m". [censored] sakes.

Rofl philos he wont admit that he is scared of me owning him. Thats why he wont put his money where is oversized mouth and undersized brain are.

 

[Bigworm01]

I'd probably beat you I've seen you fight. I'm just waiting for you to come to sonoma.

 

[trickmaster]

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Of course button slapping skillz are useful, but there's only so much you can do with just straight mage. All it really takes is one newbie to spam weaken on you (and there's always plenty of newbies) and all of a sudden your one form of offense (casting) becomes near impossible. If you had nervestrike, or other specials, or lethal poison, or strangle etc... your options open up alot. It's not like this game is very difficult to understand. It's an enhanced version or rock / paper / scissors..... For most templates, there's one that's great for killing it. The real trick is designing ones that are ALWAYS useful OR ones that are so specific they rock when used in their intended way. That's what 3f does best is build templates solely to function as a group... That always bugged me bc I've never really had the leisure of KNOWING I was going to be playing with Templates X, Y, Z..... A Tamer pvp Template that Cannot res their own pets Anyone ???? lol just cracks me up....

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I agree there's only so much you can do witha straight mage, but when you add in other skills and techniques to the mage repertoir, it just serves to augment the abilities of that player. That's not to say that magery is the be all and end all of skills, but there's only one other skill that compares with it in terms of usefulness on offense and defense, and that other skill is bushido. Bushido is the only other skill in the game that has had virtually no drawbacks offensively or defensively. Even when they changed evasion, it bush still has things like confidence and nerve strike (don't forget the hiryu). It's quite useful to those who can exploit it properly.

With being any kind of dexxer, one of the things I hated about it was whether I hit you or not depending entirely on the random number generator. Because of how streaky that thing is (let's face it, it always has been that way), I hate leaving it to chance whether I'm going to miss you 5 times in a row or whether a concussion blow is going to hit you every single time. That's why I have so much DCI on zarc is because having that much dci just aids in throwing the RNG in my favor with someone missing. I've had people miss 7-8 swings in a row, which helps me stay alive. But that's not because I'm a mage, just because i have the wep skill + dci. Of course there's always the times where i get 5 straight ai's from a katana and I bite the dust.

 

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Heh... part of a dexxers strength is the Random factor of combat. Vs a mage if I see a precast explode and FS coming my way I know what's going to happen and can act accordingly, with a dexxer though people know that they "might" miss any given swing and that opens up alot of room for a mistake on their part. People go for the kill "praying" that I miss etc and such. That's one of the things I don't like about playing say a scribe mage ..... I cast X, Y , Z and so &amp; so so just offscreens bc they know it will kill them... Same person vs an archer, might hope for the miss on the killing AI and stick around for their unlucky death.
Anyway, it's not rocket science they all have their uses and it's just understanding what those are that makes any player really better than another.

 

[trickmaster]

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Heh... part of a dexxers strength is the Random factor of combat. Vs a mage if I see a precast explode and FS coming my way I know what's going to happen and can act accordingly, with a dexxer though people know that they "might" miss any given swing and that opens up alot of room for a mistake on their part. People go for the kill "praying" that I miss etc and such. That's one of the things I don't like about playing say a scribe mage ..... I cast X, Y , Z and so &amp; so so just offscreens bc they know it will kill them... Same person vs an archer, might hope for the miss on the killing AI and stick around for their unlucky death.
Anyway, it's not rocket science they all have their uses and it's just understanding what those are that makes any player really better than another.

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This is true.

One of my favorite things is hoping someone hits me while they are blood oathed... some people still don't realize that remove curse &amp; apples don't take it away... of course, it's really cheap to blood oath someone, but I only do it over and over if I want a quicker kill

 

[We Run It]

lol yah..that will b nerfed as soon as everyone realizes how powerfull it is...just like everything else!

 

[trickmaster]

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lol yah..that will b nerfed as soon as everyone realizes how powerfull it is...just like everything else!

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Hopefully right around the time that evasion is removed from the game...

 

[slipperywhenwet]

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I'd probably beat you I've seen you fight. I'm just waiting for you to come to sonoma.

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so put 100 mil where your mouth is and put up with a broker kid. Either this or stop talking and making yourself look dumber.

 

[slipperywhenwet]

I almost forgot....here is the brokers icq, 104-415-760, his name is Leo. Now man up or shut up chicken.

 

[kleptobyte]

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Of course button slapping skillz are useful, but there's only so much you can do with just straight mage. All it really takes is one newbie to spam weaken on you (and there's always plenty of newbies) and all of a sudden your one form of offense (casting) becomes near impossible. If you had nervestrike, or other specials, or lethal poison, or strangle etc... your options open up alot. It's not like this game is very difficult to understand. It's an enhanced version or rock / paper / scissors..... For most templates, there's one that's great for killing it. The real trick is designing ones that are ALWAYS useful OR ones that are so specific they rock when used in their intended way. That's what 3f does best is build templates solely to function as a group... That always bugged me bc I've never really had the leisure of KNOWING I was going to be playing with Templates X, Y, Z..... A Tamer pvp Template that Cannot res their own pets Anyone ???? lol just cracks me up....

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I agree there's only so much you can do witha straight mage, but when you add in other skills and techniques to the mage repertoir, it just serves to augment the abilities of that player. That's not to say that magery is the be all and end all of skills, but there's only one other skill that compares with it in terms of usefulness on offense and defense, and that other skill is bushido. Bushido is the only other skill in the game that has had virtually no drawbacks offensively or defensively. Even when they changed evasion, it bush still has things like confidence and nerve strike (don't forget the hiryu). It's quite useful to those who can exploit it properly.

With being any kind of dexxer, one of the things I hated about it was whether I hit you or not depending entirely on the random number generator. Because of how streaky that thing is (let's face it, it always has been that way), I hate leaving it to chance whether I'm going to miss you 5 times in a row or whether a concussion blow is going to hit you every single time. That's why I have so much DCI on zarc is because having that much dci just aids in throwing the RNG in my favor with someone missing. I've had people miss 7-8 swings in a row, which helps me stay alive. But that's not because I'm a mage, just because i have the wep skill + dci. Of course there's always the times where i get 5 straight ai's from a katana and I bite the dust.

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Feel my pain.......you both are right. Mage temp with no weapon is REALLY hard to fight with now. I feel so vindicated. All I really see is NS all kill temps, nox/DS temps and various combos on the necro varieties. They should make riding any pet that can attack require taming and lore.....just my 2 cents.

 

[imported_Vexxed]

If your sooooo anxious to show the world your THAT much better than worm Slip... then why don't you spend a whole 14% of your mega millions and bring your ass over to Sonoma to own us all ? You do realize that's it might just be possible Worm don't have 100m ? I have no idea why he hasn't said it if that's the case, but I'm getting tired of listening to you. The short version is your not on Sonoma, so does it really matter what you think?.... ooooo nooooo.. plssss stooooop!! Slippery is soooo good he will own me from another shard !%#$#@! Doesn't really strike fear into the hearts of man in my book lol. Anyway .... 100m ain't easy, but you seem to have it out for Worm so backing up your uberness might just be worth a measely 14m.. wouldn't you say ? Hell if your that good, you can take us all on and own the spawns day in and our and make your money back in a hurry... = P

 

[Bigworm01]

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If your sooooo anxious to show the world your THAT much better than worm Slip... then why don't you spend a whole 14% of your mega millions and bring your ass over to Sonoma to own us all ? You do realize that's it might just be possible Worm don't have 100m ? I have no idea why he hasn't said it if that's the case, but I'm getting tired of listening to you. The short version is your not on Sonoma, so does it really matter what you think?.... ooooo nooooo.. plssss stooooop!! Slippery is soooo good he will own me from another shard !%#$#@! Doesn't really strike fear into the hearts of man in my book lol. Anyway .... 100m ain't easy, but you seem to have it out for Worm so backing up your uberness might just be worth a measely 14m.. wouldn't you say ? Hell if your that good, you can take us all on and own the spawns day in and our and make your money back in a hurry... = P

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I think somebody just got verbally owned.