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Of UO constantly changing everything?

They fix the things over and over that are fine but just ignore the real problems.

Greater dragons that hit for 60 damage seem perfect fine but they are more worried about fixing spell plague for what... teh 4th time???

It is perfectly fine!

Everytime a mage gets something good to help balance them against overpowered dexxers it instantly gets nerfed. Just look at all the things that have been nerfed relating to mages.

Wands.
Parry.
Vamp form.
Wep specs w/o tactics.
Necro was nerfed multiple times.
Mysticism has been nerfed multiple times in the last few months.


I'm kind of tired and not thinking of everything there are alot more things I know.

If it's overpowered on a dexxer it can go overlooked for months. Example, why have smoke bombs still not been changed??? Those things are way OP.

But isn't everyone else really getting tired of setting a char or a suit or something up then it getting changed then fixing ur char or suit then they change it again?

It's really getting annoying.

Stop worrying about people training skills afk which only helps the game overall and stop fixing things that dont' need to be fixed and start worrying about the real problems in UO.
 

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If UO never changed it would get very boring for a lot of players. I have no problem with changes, I like changes. It attracts more interest and makes it more interesting. Same old gets boring after a while.
 

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The game DOES change way too often. Having to make new characteres/temps constantly gets tiring.

The game SHOULD change every so often to keep it fresh and allow different temps to be at the top but not every couple months.
 

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No. Its how games are developed. Striving toward improvement is how it should be. They may get it wrong, and they may spend time on things YOU or I don't care about, but thats the process, and they do the best they are able.

Wanting decisions that have been proven poor by the test of in game interactions to remain just so you don't have to alter your template is silly.

If you don't like the changes, let them know.
 

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No. Its how games are developed. Striving toward improvement is how it should be. They may get it wrong, and they may spend time on things YOU or I don't care about, but thats the process, and they do the best they are able.

Wanting decisions that have been proven poor by the test of in game interactions to remain just so you don't have to alter your template is silly.

If you don't like the changes, let them know.
This.
 
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I'm not talking about changes like adding imbuing or any other expansion they have had.

I'm talking about them nerfing and changing things over and over when there is nothing wrong with it to begin with.

90% of PvP changes are favored towards dexxers because it is what is easy to play. You guys are kind of missing the point I am making.
 

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I'm not talking about changes like adding imbuing or any other expansion they have had.

I'm talking about them nerfing and changing things over and over when there is nothing wrong with it to begin with.

90% of PvP changes are favored towards dexxers because it is what is easy to play. You guys are kind of missing the point I am making.
Right. Because it's never necessary to balance things. Gotcha.
 
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Haha yes you gimped out to use a 50 fireball bokuto and casting focus.

The night before I beat your ass so bad you just left or I would have done the same to you. I was hardly even having to heal myself.

That's why you want to fight on foot is so you can 100% rely on wep hits for fireball disrupts. You are absolutely awful
 

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Haha yes you gimped out to use a 50 fireball bokuto and casting focus.

The night before I beat your ass so bad you just left or I would have done the same to you. I was hardly even having to heal myself.

That's why you want to fight on foot is so you can 100% rely on wep hits for fireball disrupts. You are absolutely awful
We did 3 fights using a book...you still lost. Did you forget about those?

The night before? lol...that was my fault for trying to pvp while downloading. Well done...but don't count on that happening again.

Casting focus? lol...its called timing...perhaps you should learn it!
 

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my grandfather say the same things about the world. But this is the progress and cannot be stopped :)
 

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Of UO constantly changing everything?

They fix the things over and over that are fine but just ignore the real problems.

Greater dragons that hit for 60 damage seem perfect fine but they are more worried about fixing spell plague for what... teh 4th time???

It is perfectly fine!

Everytime a mage gets something good to help balance them against overpowered dexxers it instantly gets nerfed. Just look at all the things that have been nerfed relating to mages.

Wands.
Parry.
Vamp form.
Wep specs w/o tactics.
Necro was nerfed multiple times.
Mysticism has been nerfed multiple times in the last few months.


I'm kind of tired and not thinking of everything there are alot more things I know.

If it's overpowered on a dexxer it can go overlooked for months. Example, why have smoke bombs still not been changed??? Those things are way OP.

But isn't everyone else really getting tired of setting a char or a suit or something up then it getting changed then fixing ur char or suit then they change it again?

It's really getting annoying.

Stop worrying about people training skills afk which only helps the game overall and stop fixing things that dont' need to be fixed and start worrying about the real problems in UO.
1. Dragons are not over powered. Takes one player with a slayer to drop them quickly. Come prepared dummy.

2. Spell plague has only been changed once...for the best. This will be the second time and it's a happy medium in terms of power between the first and second time it came out.

3. Mysticism has never been nerfed. What are you talking about?

4. Mages can use smoke bombs too?

5. Sorry that them fixing cheating upsets you. Cry a little more.

In summary, I'll take this as your official "I'll be quitting next patch because I won't be able to compete" notice.

lol @ bad player
 

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Of UO constantly changing everything?

They fix the things over and over that are fine but just ignore the real problems.

Talk to me about sick, tired and frustrated beyond belief, after you have played Siege for a few years. Only then will the problems that plague your gameplay truly be ignored by the dev team and for YEARS on end!
 
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If it's overpowered on a dexxer it can go overlooked for months. Example, why have smoke bombs still not been changed??? Those things are way OP.
Whats so overpowered about them? They use mana, so mana drain the target. They have like a 10 second delay, so strangle the target! Adapt your gameplay a lil and you'll have nothing to complain about :)
 
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Seems to me the only people who moan about changes to skills are those relying on the latest and greatest Gimp template!

Im certain Hypnotic you would have used a WOD Archer, or a nerve strike mage(when nerves couldnt be broken), or a Dismount GD tamer...now you are using the newest OP template...the mystic (one with a Dread).

The only proposed change is to spell plague, which is the only overpowered spell. Sleep was changed...in my opinion for the better, it now isnt removed by damage and acts as a curse...to me this is better.

Stop whining!
 
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Rabbit you didn't have casting focus? Inscribe? Crown of arcane temperment? Protector of the battle mage? You are so full of ****... We did one fight no wep and you insta walled it after I got rezzed and I told you that you were clearly avoiding a no weps fight then I fought talos and beat him again then everyone got ganked. All you did was go for wep hits to get spell plagues off and harm spam. You are absolutely horrible. Keep using downloading porn as an excuse.

Also Chad.. Mysticism has been nerfed, dexxers cried cuz Purge took them out of form and they were unable to just run away. So of course they changed it. Yes I am aware that mages can use smoke bombs. That does not mean they are not overpowered.

Also who said I had a mystic dread mage? Never had one =/
 

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No.

1. I am able to adjust.
2. I like to play a balanced game. And UO has one of the best balanced PvP systems I have seen.
 
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1. Dragons are not over powered. Takes one player with a slayer to drop them quickly. ...
The OP stated greater dragons not "normal" dragons ... you can take one solo? I would like to see that please. What shard can I visit and learn on ... I really would like to nail a GD solo.
 
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The OP stated greater dragons not "normal" dragons ... you can take one solo? I would like to see that please. What shard can I visit and learn on ... I really would like to nail a GD solo.
I can take a GD solo, they're not that hard as long as you use your head.
 
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The OP stated greater dragons not "normal" dragons ... you can take one solo? I would like to see that please. What shard can I visit and learn on ... I really would like to nail a GD solo.
2 Things here.

1) Pre tamed GD's Arent even that hard to kill on a sampire Or ABC Archer.

2) Post tame, those GD's become very easy to kill. Maybe takes 10-15shots.
 
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I just wanna say I dood it! <shrug> Swords Pally, no parry.

I keep dying to the doggone things ... chain spells and the hit are nasty.
 

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I also agree, have spent countless millions rebuilding suits over and over for new templates, power scrolls of characters i change a template, then they go and "fix" something and the template is completely busted and have to start over.

I dont necessarily mind redoing or tweaking templates, as much as im getting tired of rebuilding suits to fit those templates. Now watch, soon they will super nerf spell plague and stuff, and the countless millions ive spent turning some chars into mystics will be for nothing.

personally, i think spell plague is a great equalizer. It allows you to get a dump of damage on someone fast enough that they can't just run away, sleep is also great as it stops people from speed hacking away.
 

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Whats so overpowered about them? They use mana, so mana drain the target. They have like a 10 second delay, so strangle the target! Adapt your gameplay a lil and you'll have nothing to complain about :)
Still shouldn't be able to insta hide.
 

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A well timed "An Lor Xen" lets mages insta hide :)
I have no problem with "well timed", like the hiding skill, slip around a corner, boom hide. Nice move.

But ti be taking damage and the only part of "well timed, is how fast u can hit ur smoke bomb macro? pfft
 
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Of UO constantly changing everything?

They fix the things over and over that are fine but just ignore the real problems.

Greater dragons that hit for 60 damage seem perfect fine but they are more worried about fixing spell plague for what... teh 4th time???

It is perfectly fine!

Everytime a mage gets something good to help balance them against overpowered dexxers it instantly gets nerfed. Just look at all the things that have been nerfed relating to mages.

Wands.
Parry.
Vamp form.
Wep specs w/o tactics.
Necro was nerfed multiple times.
Mysticism has been nerfed multiple times in the last few months.


I'm kind of tired and not thinking of everything there are alot more things I know.

If it's overpowered on a dexxer it can go overlooked for months. Example, why have smoke bombs still not been changed??? Those things are way OP.

But isn't everyone else really getting tired of setting a char or a suit or something up then it getting changed then fixing ur char or suit then they change it again?

It's really getting annoying.

Stop worrying about people training skills afk which only helps the game overall and stop fixing things that dont' need to be fixed and start worrying about the real problems in UO.
If anyone wants to see how pathetic this person is for complaing about game mechanics and such. Go to uopvp.net and look at the pictures he posts. To bad we cant complain about that here eh?
 

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Of UO constantly changing everything?

They fix the things over and over that are fine but just ignore the real problems.

Greater dragons that hit for 60 damage seem perfect fine but they are more worried about fixing spell plague for what... teh 4th time???

It is perfectly fine!

Everytime a mage gets something good to help balance them against overpowered dexxers it instantly gets nerfed. Just look at all the things that have been nerfed relating to mages.

Wands.
Parry.
Vamp form.
Wep specs w/o tactics.
Necro was nerfed multiple times.
Mysticism has been nerfed multiple times in the last few months.


I'm kind of tired and not thinking of everything there are alot more things I know.

If it's overpowered on a dexxer it can go overlooked for months. Example, why have smoke bombs still not been changed??? Those things are way OP.

But isn't everyone else really getting tired of setting a char or a suit or something up then it getting changed then fixing ur char or suit then they change it again?

It's really getting annoying.

Stop worrying about people training skills afk which only helps the game overall and stop fixing things that dont' need to be fixed and start worrying about the real problems in UO.
WWWAAAAHHHHH.:sad2::sad2::sad2:

Poor Hypnotic's latest gimplate gets a well needed adjustment and he cries. I pray the cheat detects take care of the rest of your playstyle.
 

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Since when can a guy be ragged on all thread for posting his opinion?
 

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when it doesnt make sense and it turns into a spiel and rant, move it to a pvp thread at least
 
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smart-arsed response? because he posted in UHall

and it's been that way regardless of the opinion offered ... UHall is pretty consistent lilke that.
 

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The OP stated greater dragons not "normal" dragons ... you can take one solo? I would like to see that please. What shard can I visit and learn on ... I really would like to nail a GD solo.
I think I must be misreading this. We solo Gd's all the time in destard on atlantic. Sometimes 3 will attack at once. Gd's are easy, paragon Gd's are really really hard. I thought they were hard too, but I needed 10k of barbed and it turned out they were really easy to kill.
 

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Rabbit you didn't have casting focus? Inscribe? Crown of arcane temperment? Protector of the battle mage? You are so full of ****... We did one fight no wep and you insta walled it after I got rezzed and I told you that you were clearly avoiding a no weps fight then I fought talos and beat him again then everyone got ganked. All you did was go for wep hits to get spell plagues off and harm spam. You are absolutely horrible. Keep using downloading porn as an excuse.

Also Chad.. Mysticism has been nerfed, dexxers cried cuz Purge took them out of form and they were unable to just run away. So of course they changed it. Yes I am aware that mages can use smoke bombs. That does not mean they are not overpowered.

Also who said I had a mystic dread mage? Never had one =/
5% casting focus...3 fights with no books, and it was last weeks episode of Dr. Who. I am so bad you died to me 7 times in a row. Each time you had a new excuse of why you were so terrible.

Anyway, 100 million says I take you best of three...put your money where you mouth is. :)
 

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The OP stated greater dragons not "normal" dragons ... you can take one solo? I would like to see that please. What shard can I visit and learn on ... I really would like to nail a GD solo.
You can kill just about any greater dragon with the right temp and equipment in three hits...sometimes four.
 

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You can kill just about any greater dragon with the right temp and equipment in three hits...sometimes four.
Does anyone actually run a "gdragon killer" in pvp tho? Besides, even if some archer is carrying a drag slayer bow and starts lighting up the dragon, it just gets pet balled or logged.
 
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The apple timer needs to be adjusted at least to a minute, and the cleansing winds spell needs to be adjusted, its very overpowered right now.

As far as spell plauge, I didn't really see anything wrong with it.
 

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The apple timer needs to be adjusted at least to a minute, and the cleansing winds spell needs to be adjusted, its very overpowered right now.

As far as spell plauge, I didn't really see anything wrong with it.
lol? the cleansing winds spell is slow...slower than a greater heal!

apple timer? 15 seconds is more than enough time to deal heavy damage on an opponent...
 
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If you guys haven't noticed over the years that 90% of PvP changes are favored towards dexxers then you are either just dumb or really dumb.

90% of overpowered things for dexxers will go overlooked forever be4 it's even considered.

Also the majority of the stuff they fix doesn't even need to be fixed most the time.

Rabbit... We did not have 3 duels no wep. I went there to beat Talos' ass which I did and I lost a few duels to you. Your 50 fireball bokuto was doing all the work for you. I honestly don't know why you think you are good. We will fight mounted next time that way you can't be 100% weapon reliant. Deal?
 

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If you guys haven't noticed over the years that 90% of PvP changes are favored towards dexxers then you are either just dumb or really dumb.

90% of overpowered things for dexxers will go overlooked forever be4 it's even considered.

Also the majority of the stuff they fix doesn't even need to be fixed most the time.

Rabbit... We did not have 3 duels no wep. I went there to beat Talos' ass which I did and I lost a few duels to you. Your 50 fireball bokuto was doing all the work for you. I honestly don't know why you think you are good. We will fight mounted next time that way you can't be 100% weapon reliant. Deal?
100 mil says I take you on mount with a book in hand.

btw...why do you keep mentioning my wep...considering you use a 50% hit spell wep yourself in those fights.

oh...and lol about not fighting you three times without a wep...I see you so easily forget things when they don't go your way.

cry moar!!!
 
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lol? the cleansing winds spell is slow...slower than a greater heal!

apple timer? 15 seconds is more than enough time to deal heavy damage on an opponent...
I've gone into protection and stone form, 5 non mystic players dumping on me could not kill me. And someone crosshealing with mysticism is also rediculous. I've played a mystic mage since mysticism was implemented, you can't tell me that cleansing winds does not need adjusted. A beneficial spell should not be able to cure + heal + remove curses.

As far as the apple timer goes, necro templates are barely usable due to removing curses every 15 seconds from apples.
 

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I've gone into protection and stone form, 5 non mystic players dumping on me could not kill me. And someone crosshealing with mysticism is also rediculous. I've played a mystic mage since mysticism was implemented, you can't tell me that cleansing winds does not need adjusted. A beneficial spell should not be able to cure + heal + remove curses.

As far as the apple timer goes, necro templates are barely usable due to removing curses every 15 seconds from apples.
I have been using mysticism since beta...it's the first time a mage has had a level playing field since they took away the ability to use specs without tactics.

apple timer? we do have thieves in the game to steal...and a player can be taken out of stone form and protection with a very short and very effective spell.
 
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would you PM me the temp and stuff please? I'm serious ... I wanna try one of them. I have 17K enhanced bandies so goodness knows I have a lot of wounds I can heal!

I know darn right well I'm missing something when trying to do them ... mebbe you've got the answer. also, please assume this is PvM char strictly.

thanks!
 

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Back when they made the first change that meant you could not be a very good mage and a very good warrior all in one character, I was behind in character development and had to change even before maxing out my characters. I have never caught up since then and resigned myself to never catching up. So I don't have a sammie or a wammy or even a real mage but it doesn't matter because I still enjoy playing.
 

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But isn't everyone else really getting tired of setting a char or a suit or something up then it getting changed then fixing ur char or suit then they change it again?

It's really getting annoying.
The game DOES change way too often. Having to make new characteres/temps constantly gets tiring.
I'm not pointing the finger at you two, because maybe this doesn't apply, but there are players who always go for the fotm when it comes to templates. As soon as something is op, they latch on to it, and milk it for all it's worth. And then complain when the inevitable nerf happens.

If you choose a template that fits your playstyle, a template that you enjoy playing, instead of focusing your attention on the latest roflstomp op gimp template, you will find that you "have to" change your template and suit far less often.

I came back seven months ago, after being away for a couple of years, and I had to rework my suit and my template, and it was a fun process, but my basic template is the same as it was two years ago, and my suit is based on the same arties.

I've learnt a lot since I came back, and both my suit and my playstyle have evolved considerably, but I didn't have to completely learn a new playstyle, or start from scratch with a new suit, because my template and playstyle suited me, and I've never gone for the fotm - ever.
 

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yeah im sick of things changing.

Like the old taming changes. i loved being able to take my mares out and do massive pwnage.

you just have to read between the lines with these things.

it was FUn - totally fun. Changes happen though. you Kant help theSe Things. Every game has Big changes. ya dig? diaf ya know?
 

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If you expected to play a game that never changed after it was released, then a persistent world online game is NOT for you.
 

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Spellplague IS straight up stupid. It deserves the nerf. As did sleep. As did purge magic w/ animal forms while you're on mount (did they fix that? they did right?).

On the other hand I don't see what the healing stone & enchant weapon has to be that SLOW of a casting speed...

Wands - It was stupid. There's no way around it. Fun? Yes! It was hella fun times. But to be able to death strike, disarm/dismount, heal on the run, cycle lightning wands on the run that were effected by SDI/skill was straight dumb.
Parry - Stupid. It deserved it. Still pretty damn useful...
Vamp form - deserved it.
Wep specs w/o tactics - It wasen't that bad... But it was needed. It sure was fun w/ the huge variety of templates out there, but things would be pretty stupid if it was not required nowadays... Toggling specials while casting, I do miss that though. :(