You're taking seriously what I offered in sarcasm. Good lord.
Perhaps you should stop painting with that broad brush.
No it's people complaining because they no longer can monopolize idocs freely by pressing play on a 3rd parry program
I dunno, idoc is only 14 hours max. i dont think the gms would show up that fast
. should be able to still use that bad stuff no prob!
I'm talking about running rails to script run 5-6 shards simultaneously to get exact times..then recall in 5 minutes before it fallsI dunno, idoc is only 14 hours max. i dont think the gms would show up that fast
In case you have forgotten, we "old timers" were the games original customers, and are still it's most loyal customers, therefore the game would not exist today without the "old timers". The more you "take the power out of the hands of the old timers" the faster the game dies, each "old timer" that leaves will not be replaced, the game has extremely few new players, and less than 10% of them stay more than a month.
*raises hand*
Hiya Jack u still around.....and well said....A whole play system ruined
probably none of the'' no votes'' actually idoc properly...[ie] go run the lands and find them...then try time the fall....then show up 5 mins b4 it does fall.... THATS what the lazy is part-time Idocers hate....WE used to tell everyone waiting at the Idoc 5 hours b4 to go home and come back in 5 hours time....used to love doing that....that was cool.....no-one ever believed u either...lol.....[end]
Would be a nice idea, but: only, if the stuff from an IDOC decays extremely slow instead of disappearing within one or two hours. Maybe, all the chests, deeds, other locked down items of a gone house are still counting as locked down/secure until either the first player tries to take one item out of this stack or one week or even month went through. Maybe the temporary placement area blocker can be "abused" to implement such zones, in which items do not start to decay until a trigger (house placement attempt, taking/moving items from the stack, extended timer) is used.
Excellent posting!hi all, normally i am more the reader than the writer but i would like to make a comment.
my home shard is one of "European" shards.
after years of break a friend took me to a IDOC beginning of the year. it was existing for me, having chats, fights in Fel (or in tram with a harbinger...) and try to get a few items when the house fell. i loved it. of course one or the other item landed afterwards in my house or bank, i am far from making billions but for my thoughts i am lucky. (could n´t even think how to farm this money...).
spoken in most of your words: a beginner, but i can live with that.
IDOC for me was also with the old system not easy, i have a full time job and the fall times on my shard were mostly between 2 and 5 in the night... which make it not easy if you have to get up a around 6...
now after the change its is nearly impossible because i cannot sit beside a house 24hours and wait till its fall. therefore the known times of the old at least gave people like me a chance to be there.
since the change i was at 1 IDOC (trammel castle, with a secret chest) mainly i was there because i had to do some work on the PC and was able to put my char beside the chest. There where around 10-15 chars arrived in a very short period (around 1 hours before falling) which brings me to the conclusion that its maybe not so random as someone thinks.
of course there were the usual's i saw already in the past.
the fall it self gave me no chance to even click the mouse key till the chest was gone, so much about "help against scripting" ... luckily the "grabber" dropped the chest somehow and i was beside it but that´s another topic.
for me personally IDOC is done (it was a real adventure but everything has to end...) because i can´t and of course will not plan my life after UO so that i can stay 24 hours beside a castle to get a peace of pixel when i´am lucky and no scripter is around.
in my eyes the change make the rich ones just more rich and people like me cannot even plan a bit to get lucky at least sometimes.
-> ah there is a public castle with nice items falling tonight at around 5, okay i can go a bit more early to bad and try my luck. -> no longer happening.
my suggestion are the following:
1. go back (...)
2. totally random drop with no indication at all, let the items stand on the ground for a few days so that everybody who is willing to walk over the land may find them
3. ad a timer to the house sigh with exact point when it fall, but release the items a random amount later (every time different) then everybody can be there and no one needs to complain. but make house private as soon as the timer start so no one can use script looting inside the house. (yes there may be a bug to look inside -> fix the bug... UO code is more than 15 years old how complicate can this be...)
4. put the stuff random based in the player banks of active accounts "a gift from a former UO player" -> random items / stacks with a counter per account and when all active accounts have one items start again etc...
Greetings,
Waxx
Once again I find myself agreeing with an old friend and fellow idocer of past times. Unfortunately I cannot see what you propose happening.
I played during the golden age of 1999-2002 myself, took a decade hiatus and came back. I came back to a game where too many people still want to live in the past and the ultra-catering to all these older players is what keeps the game from having the ability to move forward as much as it should have. While the game still will be around for quite a while, it still needs to make alot more leaps and strides to be more attractive to newer players . The fact that so many people haven't moved on from the 'classic client' it the biggest example of this living in the past mentality. In my humble opinion, it's a little pathetic even.
i think 10-12 is a very good target age for a UO player. its not graphic / violence / sex intensive like many other games, and is simple enough that it can be enjoyed by someone at that age.You want 12year old people playing UO? Seriously?
You want 12year old people playing UO? Seriously?
"Proper" IDOCER as stated is the guy who is scripting, running around and a warning popps up telling him a house sign reads any of the stages. He then marks a rune and checks back often and finally catches when it changes stages, from that point on, all they do is show up when the stage changes to confirm and narrowed it down to a 5 minute window. Then they show up with a trial account so they cannot be attacked or bothered and target looted specific items. LMAO is you think this is proper you are PATHETIC.
What they HAVE done is make the stages random (supposedly, broken of course). The time from Start of Condemnation to Fall is suppose to have remained the same, just the length of each stage changed. Making it impossible for the "Proper" IDOCER to know by his method.
I like the idea of a truly random fall, but this will mean nothing but pure luck and wandering by one when it actually falls, also this would mean that the advertising of stages needs to come off the sign and just "Condemned" placed there at the start of a Collapse Cycle :-( But of course there are reports that this is borked :-yell:
There going for 5 billion on one shard....u can place a castle on half a dozen shards free....the reason for this mess...not idocs...events!!
I must say, I am learning loads about scripting in this thread. Its like a stratics class on IDOC scripting. I will have ot book mark this thread for future referenceThe complete and utter IGNORANCE of some people here is PATHETIC.
BTW this is what a Scripter is doing NOT A "PROPPER" IDOCER (LMAO).
ALOT OF THE 67 DO AND HAVE DONE IDOCS, THEY HAVE SHARED INFORMATION AND WORKED AS TEAMS TO GET THE FALL TIMES. THEY DID THIS BY SHARING AREAS THEY SCOIUT AND SHARE RUNES AND CHECK ON THEM THROUGHOUT ALL DIFFERNT TIMES ZONES. No scripts needed just working together. Now they have a much harder time but will still work it out, and will sit for the whole IDOC time if needed, not one person but pass the job around from player to player. That is what a real player has, and will, continue to do. The scripter will just whine about it and stop "IDOC"ing, as intended. DLTDHYOTA.
:gun:NO ONE WALKS AROUND AND READS EVERY HOUSE SIGN AND SEES THE STAGES, NO ONE!!!!
As it is now (or intended) the only way to know for sure now is if you happen to walk by and read a house sign when it actually starts
As for the players that are losing houses because they challenge the game by paying for their accounts once they hit Greatly and before IDOC. :loser:
Lastly almost 70% say the change is goo so you have your answer
After re-reading this entire thread (which was painful in itself), I've changed my view. I'd now like to see IDOC's fall and do major damage to everyone surrounding (like when the columns collapse at Navrey's Web) and leave behind flaming rubble with all the house items displayed. Any item that is picked up crumbles to dust as you touch it.
I can see it to be easy to code a trial account not being able to enter a decaying house. However, how would it be easy to code a trial account not being about to enter an area where a house just decayed? An area where a house decayed is no more unique than any above ground location, it is not special.
True.
