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They seem to have fixed the issue, and converted the accidentally dropped cards into what they were supposed to be (mastery books). So you should be OK
Well, in all fairness, UHall is UHall and Traders Hall is mostly armor and jewelry posts, not rares.
Plus the fact that #2 and 3 is used by the players to move goods (and many posts are just bumps anyway) where as the RP and PvM folks for example doesn´t have to post on a forum everytime they RP or kill a Miasma.
So I wouldn´t say that a certain part of a forum is a good indicator for how active a certain class or whatever is. After all, the Siege forum is more active than the Atlantic forum...
Just saying.
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I'm not a rares collector by any means, but have started to pick a few things up. But let me say this:
I fully appreciate that such a large part of the subscription base comes from the rares and trading community. However, there are thousands of different "rare" items. Whether they be "server birth" or EM event drops, or what have you... there are a HUGE amount of these supposed rare items. If some cards dropped that look like a server birth item, honestly, what's the BFD? It's not like every rare item ever started dropping on mongbats. If anything, an item like cards is something that could get a newer player maybe a little more interested in rares collecting and trading themselves.
I know this is Uhall where people love to debate (yours truly especially
) but I think this entire thread is far over-blown. But then again... maybe I'm just ignorant of how the importance of this battle here.
I fully appreciate that such a large part of the subscription base comes from the rares and trading community. However, there are thousands of different "rare" items. Whether they be "server birth" or EM event drops, or what have you... there are a HUGE amount of these supposed rare items. If some cards dropped that look like a server birth item, honestly, what's the BFD? It's not like every rare item ever started dropping on mongbats. If anything, an item like cards is something that could get a newer player maybe a little more interested in rares collecting and trading themselves.
I know this is Uhall where people love to debate (yours truly especially
) but I think this entire thread is far over-blown. But then again... maybe I'm just ignorant of how the importance of this battle here.
@Merlin
i agree with you that the loss of 1 rare item isnt the end of the world. Rares collectors started out collecting server births back in the day because thats really all there was to collect. Now theres tons. that being said, i think the main issue here is we are dealing with a set of collectables that already is the least "safe" when it comes to holding value, and desireability.
Im the first one to say that graphics shouldnt be "held hostage" just to preserve the rarity of serverbirths. @Promathia we can see that even great memorabilia designed to be rare, like the 15th anniversary robe is never safe from the same graphic being used in a common, spawning drop. everyone who owns serverbirths (and other rares) knows items that are identical in graphic (or very similar for deco purposes), but different in name have been added to the game many many times and isnt somthing uncommon.
So we have a situation where this particular set of collectables is already "unsafe" in terms of even just "similar" items (for the sake of deco) being released. this is a known.
add to that "accident" items like the ceramic mug, exploits (like the skull mug, various bottles / flasks, etc) and situations like the cards, and well, it just adds to loss of faith in ALL server births.
So, what im saying is that serverbirths are already known to be risky, and it would probably be good practice by the devs to keep preventable slip-ups to a minimum so as not to add even more assertion that well known fact.
I think the devs did the right thing here, even tho it also wouldnt be the end of the world if they were left in if it couldnt be prevented. Im all for more deco items being added to the game, but given the scenario think those items should always have a differnent name or color.
"Cards of Semidar" would have been a perfect way to release these cards as an intended drop.
i agree with you that the loss of 1 rare item isnt the end of the world. Rares collectors started out collecting server births back in the day because thats really all there was to collect. Now theres tons. that being said, i think the main issue here is we are dealing with a set of collectables that already is the least "safe" when it comes to holding value, and desireability.
Im the first one to say that graphics shouldnt be "held hostage" just to preserve the rarity of serverbirths. @Promathia we can see that even great memorabilia designed to be rare, like the 15th anniversary robe is never safe from the same graphic being used in a common, spawning drop. everyone who owns serverbirths (and other rares) knows items that are identical in graphic (or very similar for deco purposes), but different in name have been added to the game many many times and isnt somthing uncommon.
So we have a situation where this particular set of collectables is already "unsafe" in terms of even just "similar" items (for the sake of deco) being released. this is a known.
add to that "accident" items like the ceramic mug, exploits (like the skull mug, various bottles / flasks, etc) and situations like the cards, and well, it just adds to loss of faith in ALL server births.
So, what im saying is that serverbirths are already known to be risky, and it would probably be good practice by the devs to keep preventable slip-ups to a minimum so as not to add even more assertion that well known fact.
I think the devs did the right thing here, even tho it also wouldnt be the end of the world if they were left in if it couldnt be prevented. Im all for more deco items being added to the game, but given the scenario think those items should always have a differnent name or color.
"Cards of Semidar" would have been a perfect way to release these cards as an intended drop.
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I am a few cards short of a full deck... So I have been told.
So - Cards of Semidar look like:
and when double clicked give something like:
This one is Nystul the Wizard. Only one I've gotten upto yet.
and when double clicked give something like:
This one is Nystul the Wizard. Only one I've gotten upto yet.
Big fan of these! I would love it if they expanded the cards from four to a large number, with different rarities. Man cooks would be a awesome then!
Two. * raises hands*
I have cooking for blackrock stew, but end up buying it. Now I'll have more reason to dust it off. Please give us more cards, love this idea!!!!!
A bit of trivia: like the Vice vs Virtue banners, the Nystul card is a retouched version of a piece of artwork from the defunct Ultima Forever game. Nystul in particular is based on a generic NPC portrait .
The Jou'nar card posted here also resembles the Ultima Forever art style, though I can't find the original source right now - maybe a heavily edited Iolo?
It's nice to see that at least the nice artwork from that game isn't going to waste, and that Broadsword is making some effort to adapt it to UO instead of just shoving it in the game.
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I can see some of the resemblance taken from that for sure @Sir_Bolo. I most certainly do. Rather reminds me of one of my favorite fan sites from back in the day:
The Hansonian Institute
The Hansonian Institute
That's not surprising: the cards on the Hamsonian website are the Ultima IX tarots, which were certainly used as inspiration for Ultima Forever
Followed a link from the cooking page and found:
Cards of Semidar | Ultima Online
Cards of Semidar | Ultima Online
The portraits of Shamino and Dupre confirm that the art is taken from Ultima Forever.
Other interesting facts:
The symbols/constellations on the cards of Shamino and Dupre are obviously Spirituality and Honor
The broken shield symbol on Juo'nar's card looks like the Shame tile from VvV, which is fitting since Juo'nar is a fallen paladin.
But what is the symbol on Nystul's card? He wasn't traditionally associated to any Virtue in particular. Maybe a clock, or the moons of Trammel and Felucca?
looks like a clock?
After all these years, I still wonder how greedy and selfish some Peoples can be when it comes to "Rares". Nothing should be Rare in Ultima Online anymore, cause we all Pay to Play this Game. We are all the same Players and with those super duper Rares, we get a 2 Class Player System, which should not be there, in a Game. What if UO turns the light off in a year? What did you had from your Rares for that you spend so many Millions or Billions of Pixel Cash? Will some of you cry then, cause all crap is gone? So would it not be better to stop this Rares thing and make it possible for all Players to get the nice Items too and not only for a bunch of selfish Rares Collectors, which have Chars on every Shared just to grab by Events more as 1 Event Item, to get more Gold out of it. You came to UO with empty Pockets and you will leave UO with empty Pockets one day ....