If you're going to be condescending, at least honor the full context of the quote.
Don't we have any standards anymore as players? Items we know, 100% are dupes, items that only existed on NPCs or as named event items get their appearance duped by players to ludicrous numbers. Just because it was the past, means we can just forget about it eh? Sure guys, go dupe, after awhile we here will just forget about it and continue buying and selling them.
Oh please, as though anyone owning or selling a glacial item is condoning duping. They are an active part of the marketplace, they aren't sold in alley ways or on street corners.
Items picked up at events are legit, the items weren't locked down, players took them. Its the same thing as a Serverbirth, unless you seem to think those were intended. Accident items are far different than mass duping.
There seem to be a whole lot of "accidents" that have, ironically, only benefited the most known of players. There is a stench of hypocracy here that we could do without.
As for any other duped Event Item, we can never know which ones are the "real" ones or the "fake" ones. There is just absolutely NO WAY to police that. If someone was selling their Shroud of Tal'keesh, how could any of us know if it was real or not? Should we persecute the people with real ones?
Dupe detection is buggy, and never worked from day 1 on Event items or serverbirths. The whole non-vendorable thing is also a proven bug associated with transfers. So again, how can you know based on those shakey facts?
Dog Dupes can be distinguished 100% of the time. You can NEVER confuse a dog dupe with its real counterpart. They lost their name in the process of being dog duped, and some of them (IE Glacial Pants) did not even exist ingame except for on an NPC. They are purely CREATED items via exploit. People didn't just come "pick" it up because it was accidentally unlocked. They went through a very detailed process to "duping" the item.
I don't care if people own them, hell my own vendor is wearing some of them. Let Stratics have people able to post it in the regular trade forums for all I care. But lets not soil the "Rares Collecting" name even further than we do, by adding even more dupes, especially since they are ones that can never ever be confused for legit.
I don't know how you validate your staunch purist and traditionalism in the rares forum? You own the items, you display them publicly, and yet you are staunchly against their trade on the rares forum, despite the fact that they are rare in the first place? It's like picketing a gay marriage after a wonderful date-night with your boyfriend.
Furthermore, you also own items that no one else could have, or would have gotten without being born as you. Now I have no reason to accuse you of being a part of EM/GM corruption , but I do find it very hard to believe that all the items that come from situations like these are all just "accidental", especially considering the community positions that the entirety of the recipients hold. I never see "Joe UO Player" in original possession of these items .. it's typically the "elite" of collectors that get them to begin with.
As far as all this dupe hate -- let's be real here -- there is a system, in place, to detect and "flag" (non-vendorable) a duplicated item at creation-time. That same system, however, does not delete the duplicated item upon creation. That is a CONSCIOUS DECISION by the development team regarding these heretical bug-created items.
It would take me an hour, with plenty of time for a bathroom break and an episode of Seinfeld, to code an adequate dupe detection and removal system. Let's stop pretending like dupes are some wicked act of only the blackest magic.
I dont agree with how Stratics moderates things, nor with how harsh they are, but the topic has nothing to do with that. So lets stop making it "Stratics scares me, Im afraid ill be banned by the zealous Stratics staff". Again, that's not the topic, and doggy dupes being blacklisted was a COMMUNITY decision, not an overbearing Stratics decision.
That -IS- part of the topic. These items you are so intent on keeping illegal are punishable by bans. How is that not a relevant topic?
If my friend wasn't banned for posting the item (albeit, multiple times -- but he really did it innocently, one was a sale, the other a solicitation to buy) , this entire conversation would be moot.
If it was a community decision, let the community self-police itself (per Nails Warstein's post from last year).