This video is one hour and forty minutes long. Can you summarize what you think matters?I think Bill's reasons may be a tad more complicated than that...
This video is one hour and forty minutes long. Can you summarize what you think matters?I think Bill's reasons may be a tad more complicated than that...
I watched it all, but if you aren't interested in doing so, the first five minutes of the video should answer your question.This video is one hour and forty minutes long. Can you summarize what you think matters?
Any of you actually know O'keefe's history when it comes to credibility? He's quite well know for shall we say, creative editing? Not saying he did or didn't in this case, but honestly all of this stuff, the videos, the wiki leaks, etc. needs to be taken with a grain of salt.
I agree with you that the messenger does have issues at times. But, just because the messenger has been flawed in the past does not mean the story is flawed. I mean out of ALL the expose' pieces he has done he was only proven guilty ONCE.. once out of all the expose's he has done? That is a better average than Katie CouricThere is no integrity required when you're hearing what you want to hear. O'Keefe is famous for getting people to talk about hypothetical situations and then exposing it as if it happened. All should withhold judgement until his material is verified.
Yea, if it helps, those people have formed loud movements pretty much everywhere in Europe as well, but it's exactly the same complete nonsense as with the Trump campaign and their fans. Spread some lies, spread some fear, proclaim an super easy unfeasible solution to get the - let's say - less educated behind you. Just look Trump people in the US, National Front in France, AfD in Germany, Brexit movement, and so on. They love to buy every lie the amateurs on youtube are pushing out.Just get sick of seeing stupid memes and complete nonsense. Gotta let the poison out
From what I can find digging around in public record O'Keefe has never not released flawed evidence for his claims, everything has been recorded secretly as he manipulates the environment. Sure he's only been convicted of a crime once, and that was at a reduced charge, he has faced and lost or settled several other lawsuits over releasing edited video as civil matters. It is also somewhat interesting that his activity is financially backed by Breitbart.I agree with you that the messenger does have issues at times. But, just because the messenger has been flawed in the past does not mean the story is flawed. I mean out of ALL the expose' pieces he has done he was only proven guilty ONCE.. once out of all the expose's he has done? That is a better average than Katie Couric
Not to mention the actual words coming out of their mouths (specifically the woman at the 10:26 mark) can not be dismissed as being a hypothetical situation. Braggadocios? Self important? Sure.. but no way to take that in a conversation and spin it to be out of context. Additionally, if the piece was indeed a true hatchet job.. head would not already being lopped off. So far two folks fired in the last 48 hours since the story broke? To me that kinda illustrates how accurate the reporting actually is. Sadly though, when it comes to the DNC and their Pac's, the people are not getting canned due to the severely bad actions, they are being fired solely because they were caught on video tape admitting to them... there are still plenty of folks running with their ideas and illegal junk.
I just hope Trump bashes and bashes and bashes and bashes on this tonight at the debate.
And this here is the problem with our campaign circus. A video by a shady film maker that has yet to be vetted. Who cares, it's a football game and I hope my guy bashes the other guy!I just hope Trump bashes and bashes and bashes and bashes on this tonight at the debate.
This is all irrelevant!!! He hates Mexican!!While we're on the topic of questioning certain individuals' honesty and credibility:
He doesn't hate Mexicans. He is, however, opposed to ignoring our immigration laws and allowing any person of any nationality to enter our country illegally.This is all irrelevant!!! He hates Mexican!!
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Just to be transparentTwenty trillion dollars.
Twenty.
Trillion.
Dollars.
The government sure as hell better start adopting business principles to get its spending under control. Debt was at $10 trillion when Obama came in and is actually likely going to be closer to $21 trillion by time he leaves. We can't spend a trillion dollars a year more than we take in year after year. We can't adopt new spending programs when we can't pay for our current ones. And we can't raise taxes on a population that is already tapped out at both the individual level, small business level, and corporate level. If there is one business model that needs to be put into place, it's balancing the budget and cutting expenses in hard times.
And it's a pretty broad shot to says all his plans would be an unmitigated disaster. Can our immigration situation possibly get any worse? I think Trump would address it by securing the southern border, first and foremost. This will stop ALOT of heroin that comes into the United States, let alone more illegal immigrants who leach off the public system.
Can our trade imbalance with China and Mexico get any worse? Trump's position on trade policy is actually a lot more "liberal" than what you would see from modern day capitalists who wanted free trade... but he has America in mind and would put a stop to the imbalanced deals we sign onto again and again and again. No one in the last 40 years has had a trade policy as courageous as Donald Trump.
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If the debt isn't addressed now, and there is no effort to reign in the debt, then the USA will come to a point where it looks like Greece, only it will have a much more catastrophic effect on world events.Just to be transparent
So how much of that is foreign debt and how much have that raised during the last 4 years because my guess is most of those 10 trillion is from government owned institutions ( countrys use to loan fromthemselves) and private persons in usa
You say private persons economy and small business are in bad shape ? then image how bad it could have been without those 10 trillion dollars because that is what they do invest in america if they spend more than they pull in on taxes
If the private economy of the average american is bad now then it is not the time to lower the state debt imo
This is from 2011 but is still the truth..If the debt isn't addressed now, and there is no effort to reign in the debt, then the USA will come to a point where it looks like Greece, only it will have a much more catastrophic effect on world events.
Further... how can we justify continuing to kick this can down the road? Who is going to pay for all of this spending? Our grand children? How is it fair to them? None of those questions can be answered, and that's a serious problem.
Re watch the debate! It's clear where she stands. So C-sections aren't an option late term pregnancy so vacuum suction is the answer? I'm confused with that statement. So the baby in the final trimester can not live outside the womb is what your saying? For what reason? Deformities?Show me a legitimate case where final trimester abortion was used so I can see a legit reason why days before birth you would abort. I don't have the stomach to sift through it.What is it that you thought you heard? Its this very line of ignorance that maintains the controversy over abortion. Late term abortions are rare, most people terminate in the first trimester, beyond that, most reasonable politicians and pro-choice advocates are OK with restrictions on late term abortion, including Hillary. A c-section is indeed utilized to avoid further complications in late term pregnancies, but it's not always an option when the baby cannot survive outside of the womb.
I don't see the relevance of the method used. Hillary is on record for allowing abortion in all cases for medical reason, and on record for restricting late term abortion when there is no medical reason. "Late term" does not really have a scientific definition. Most abortions occur in the first trimester, about 9% in the second, and about 1.5% in the third, and how many of these are occurring on the last few days? When Trump makes that claim, he is technically correct because the law does not forbid it in some places, but it's a huge emotional appeal because in reality you won't find many people who performed an abortion in the final days.Re watch the debate! It's clear where she stands. So C-sections aren't an option late term pregnancy so vacuum suction is the answer? I'm confused with that statement. So the baby in the final trimester can not live outside the womb is what your saying? For what reason? Deformities?Show me a legitimate case where final trimester abortion was used so I can see a legit reason why days before birth you would abort. I don't have the stomach to sift through it.
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I do not argue that usa does not have alot of debt they do but it is nowhere near the domsday scenario you paint it out to beIf the debt isn't addressed now, and there is no effort to reign in the debt, then the USA will come to a point where it looks like Greece, only it will have a much more catastrophic effect on world events.
Further... how can we justify continuing to kick this can down the road? Who is going to pay for all of this spending? Our grand children? How is it fair to them? None of those questions can be answered, and that's a serious problem.
It is far better to take some pain now rather than risk catastrophe later.
How do you see it this way? Roe vs Wade was determined in the 70s and still stands. Abortion is a patient and doctor matter, but every single Republican candidate makes it a cornerstone of their campaign.Abortion is an issue in the Democrats home court. They love talking about abortion because it allows them to distract from the real issues and attempt to scare young women into the belief that all conservatives are big evil bogeymen. Don't fall for their bait!
Republicans DO NOT make it a corner stone of their campaign. Democrats force the issue to the front of the line so they can make accusations against the Republicans by claiming they are against women's rights, sexist, chauvinist, etc. It is liberalism who is so constantly fixed on reminding Americans about this issue.How do you see it this way? Roe vs Wade was determined in the 70s and still stands. Abortion is a patient and doctor matter, but every single Republican candidate makes it a cornerstone of their campaign.
Trump, Pence, Bush, Carson, Cruz, Huckabee, Santorum, Walker, Fiorina, Perry, Jindal, Paul... Every Republican candidate was against abortion, either indirectly by de-funding organizations like PP, or challenging Roe vs Wade. A few of them even having had limited it in their own states as Governor.
Whose calling for expansion of abortion? The left is entirely on the defense.
Ever since 2007/2008 - nearly every year 33%-39% of the entire Federal government is funded by debt.I do not argue that usa does not have alot of debt they do but it is nowhere near the domsday scenario you paint it out to be
Why you compareUSA to greece they are nothing alike Usa have full controll of the dollar and greece have pretty much no controll at all over theire currency euro (germany with theire strong industry is the economic powerhouse in eu and they call the shots) also usa is the world leading economy and both china and eu biggest trading partner it is in theire best intrest that it goes good for usa
Loaning money is like spending your kids money or spending your later self money but it has been proven so many times that if you tighten the belt realy hard during bad times it only make the bad times uneccesary long for example if you now have 5 dollars extra to spend every month it will take you 10 years to pay off your your 500 dollar debt but 10 years from now times is better and you have 50 dollars extra every month to me it make more sense to pay of that loan later in life
Dude the current candidate for vice president for the Republican ticket wants "Roe vs Wade in the ash pit of history."* Your spin is not going to work.Republicans DO NOT make it a corner stone of their campaign. Democrats force the issue to the front of the line so they can make accusations against the Republicans by claiming they are against women's rights, sexist, chauvinist, etc. It is liberalism who is so constantly fixed on reminding Americans about this issue.
By all means, a few of those folks you named... i.e., Santorum, Huckabee, Bush... made it a bigger part of their campaign than most... but that's just who they were: Christian conservatives playing to their religious base. However, saying that it is the Republicans who keep talking about this and the Republicans who are going on the offense, is completely false. With the exception of Texas, nearly every other state in the union has gotten more liberal on this subject... both in opinions of their constituents and their laws. ObamaCare basically made abortion a "human right" in the vein of being "free healthcare for women".
There is no more divisive and controversial issue than abortion. For whatever unfortunate reason, support for abortion has been on the rise for the last three decades and is now generally a majority opinion in most polls taken on the topic. Republicans do not benefit in general elections by discussing this topic, which is why I constantly tell my fellow conservatives to talk about issues that are more important and issues we can win: the national debt and our national defense.
And the biggest spenders are Medicare, Social Security, and Defense. Which one are you going to cut, and who is going to vote for you after you propose doing so?Ever since 2007/2008 - nearly every year 33%-39% of the entire Federal government is funded by debt.
Let me repeat that for emphasis:
Ever since 2007/2008 - nearly every year approximately 33%-39% of the entire United States Federal government budget is funded by debt.
One word: UNSUSTAINABLE. I could MAYBE understand if that were the case for one or two years, during the deepest part of the recession, however that has not been the case. It's been nearly a decade. It is now the "new normal" to borrow nearly $1.2-$1.5 trillion dollars every year.
What do we have to show for all of this borrowing we have done? Our roads are in piss poor shape. Veterans don't get proper care. Our military is falling behind in some areas. What has all of this borrowing done to benefit us? I can't think of anything.
Additionally, look at how much it is costing us to make annual interest payments on our debt... nearly $350 billion this year alone. And remember... that isn't paying down any debt, that is just payments necessary for the benefit of continuing to renew our good credit rating on that debt. Those interest payments alone are nearly 11% of the Federal budget.. and it gets bigger every year. How can we sustain this? How can we continue to borrow at this rate without any plan to pay it down beyond "let's hope we hit a streak of 3 decades of 8% growth a year". That will never happen.
Here's my suggestion, admittedly straight out of the Romney playbook:
We need to CUT spending, put a CAP on future Federal spending, at 20% or less of the national GDP, and have a BALANCED budget amendment to the Constitution.
They make it a cornerstone because the Christian Conservatives are a major element to the foundation of the Republican voting block, appeal to them and you gain their support, while picking up pro-life independents, and moderates who disagree with the Left's platform standpoint on this issue.How do you see it this way? Roe vs Wade was determined in the 70s and still stands. Abortion is a patient and doctor matter, but every single Republican candidate makes it a cornerstone of their campaign.
Trump, Pence, Bush, Carson, Cruz, Huckabee, Santorum, Walker, Fiorina, Perry, Jindal, Paul... Every Republican candidate was against abortion, either indirectly by de-funding organizations like PP, or challenging Roe vs Wade. A few of them even having had limited it in their own states as Governor.
Whose calling for expansion of abortion? The left is entirely on the defense.
I agree there needs to be something done about the economy and debt, but neither major party is willing to put forth workable solutions. Republican can tout cutting spending, caps on spending etc. all they want, but they also consistently push for tax cuts, and increased spending in other areas such as the military which will offset the benefits, ie. greatly reduced money coming in, with a marginal decrease in spending. Democrats push for closing loop holes in the tax code, to increase tax revenue but then look to redirect the money to social programs resulting in more spending, rendering it largely ineffective in combating the national debt.Our national debt needs to be the primary issue. Abortion won't matter if in 10-15 years from now, our national debt stands at $40-$50 trillion dollars. All the pro-life Supreme Court rulings in the world can't spare us the evil that will occur in the event of a financial meltdown by the United States and it's repercussions around the world.
**DING** **DING** DING we have a winner! Neither party really cares as long as they get your vote and they can stay in office.And the biggest spenders are Medicare, Social Security, and Defense. Which one are you going to cut, and who is going to vote for you after you propose doing so?
What's your point? Just because he is opposed to abortion doesn't mean its a "cornerstone" issue.Dude the current candidate for vice president for the Republican ticket wants "Roe vs Wade in the ash pit of history."* Your spin is not going to work.
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All of the above and more.And the biggest spenders are Medicare, Social Security, and Defense. Which one are you going to cut, and who is going to vote for you after you propose doing so?
Fair points, I do not deny that programs that Republicans like, i.e. the military & NASA, need deep cuts too. The spending cuts need to go all around in order to balance the budget, but welfare programs need to take the biggest hit.I agree there needs to be something done about the economy and debt, but neither major party is willing to put forth workable solutions. Republican can tout cutting spending, caps on spending etc. all they want, but they also consistently push for tax cuts, and increased spending in other areas such as the military which will offset the benefits, ie. greatly reduced money coming in, with a marginal decrease in spending. Democrats push for closing loop holes in the tax code, to increase tax revenue but then look to redirect the money to social programs resulting in more spending, rendering it largely ineffective in combating the national debt.
The answer is probably somewhere in the middle of those two economic philosophies, moderation and compromise, two concepts our political climate has abandoned.
I'm not saying reducing tax rates can't help, but but not with our current tax code, this is what I ment to allude to with the "in middle" though that may have been done poorly. Personally I'd rather we scrap the current tax code entirely and replace it with a 15% Federal Sales tax, and a 15% tax on income earned overseas that applies to everyone, regardless of if you are a business, or a private individual.What's your point? Just because he is opposed to abortion doesn't mean its a "cornerstone" issue.
All of the above and more.
It's not about getting votes, it about doing what is morally right and fiscally responsible.
Fair points, I do not deny that programs that Republicans like, i.e. the military & NASA, need deep cuts too. The spending cuts need to go all around in order to balance the budget, but welfare programs need to take the biggest hit.
However, there is a point I do take issue on. Reducing taxes will bring in more tax revenue by the increased incentive to work and bringing business back to the United States. It was a Democrat, John F. Kennedy, who said a rising tide lifts all boats and that tax cuts are the best way to do this when he proposed his national budget for 1963. Is it any wonder why corporations are moving their headquarters to countries where the corporate rate is 10%-15%, where by it's 30%+ here in the United States? Or why the ones that do 'stay' in the states wash all of their earnings through Bermuda and the Cayman Islands before flowing through their corporate legal structure to the USA? Our current system is not competitive. We're getting beat around the world in labor costs, regulatory costs and taxes. ObamaCare hurts any business with more than 49 employees. We have to even the playing field so American companies can compete and we can bring back middle class manufacturing jobs.
Atleast the Republicans give lip service to moving toward some solutions to reducing the debt, if not calling for an outright balanced budget. The Democrats paint any attempt to reel in spending as "throwing grandma over the cliff" or "tax cuts for the rich" or some other greed-implied insult.
How? If they're required to work then you pay them minimum wage along with minimum benefits: workman's comp, insurance, holidays, oops we just doubled the cost of welfare.Also I do agree that many of the welfare programs need to be re-invented in some manner, even if this meant instead of a decrease in spending on them, they were more like the Depression Era programs like the Civilian Conservation Corps. or Tennessee Valley Authority where those capable would work on Federal and State projects in exchange for benefits, call it hands on career training if you want but it would give these individuals new opportunities, while providing a service in exchange for benefits they are accepting.
You're also rebuilding or renovating parks, roads, bridges, dams, finding clerks receptionists and typists for federal and state office buildings, all for a greatly reduced cost.How? If they're required to work then you pay them minimum wage along with minimum benefits: workman's comp, insurance, holidays, oops we just doubled the cost of welfare.
This is a race to the bottom and you are screwing with two fronts. The poor who are suddenly paid less for equal work and, the previous labor force that was working at market rates. If the government can suddenly create jobs out of tin air for all the welfare recipients, then do so, without requiring a second class work force.You're also rebuilding or renovating parks, roads, bridges, dams, finding clerks receptionists and typists for federal and state office buildings, all for a greatly reduced cost.
Well the problem I was thinking about is the massive amount of failing infrastructure in the US atm, I was thinking of a kill two birds with one stone approach, but I get what you're saying. I also was thinking that the people unwilling to engage in the manual labor many of these would require, would quickly seek and find alternative employment that would remove them from the system as well.This is a race to the bottom and you are screwing with two fronts. The poor who are suddenly paid less for equal work and, the previous labor force that was working at market rates. If the government can suddenly create jobs out of tin air for all the welfare recipients, then do so, without requiring a second class work force.
Your ideas are unconstitutional. You forget the government is of the people, it derives its powers from the people. For the government to hold the people to some test is alien to this form of government.Well the problem I was thinking about is the massive amount of failing infrastructure in the US atm, I was thinking of a kill two birds with one stone approach, but I get what you're saying. I also was thinking that the people unwilling to engage in the manual labor many of these would require, would quickly seek and find alternative employment that would remove them from the system as well.
The biggest issue though is the outside of something like I suggested, there is no reasonable means for the Government to create jobs beyond mandatory conscription in some type of civil service (which I'm actually personally in favor of if it was a requirement to be able to vote or hold office) be it military, FEMA, Peacecorps, postal worker etc...
Let's face it, while people were worried about Bernie Sanders Socalistic views, I'm more in favor of a few more Timocratic elements being introduced into Government.
OK Since I'm sure most will be Googling "Timocracy" I go by the first definition found HERE **
As part of that personally I oppose the following:
Birth Right Citizenship for anyone. I don't care if your ancestors crossed on the Bering Land Bridge, everyone should be required to preform some type of civic service period before having a say in or the ability to influence Government. No exceptions for Religion, or any other reason.
Political Parties. They act in self interest, the moment you see "Loyality Cards" for candidates there is a problem, as their loyalty is now pledged to a party ideology and not the well being of the people they are to represent. When elected, especially to Federal positions you are not only representing Republicans, or Democrats, you are representative of everyone in your district, or home State.
They are, I didn't say I expect things to change that way, just that it's the way I personally feel. Though, there was a reason a method was placed in the Constitution to amend it, some day far in the future, something like that may actually be constitutional.Your ideas are unconstitutional. You forget the government is of the people, it derives its powers from the people. For the government to hold the people to some test is alien to this form of government.
There is only ONE candidate that is for The People and his name is Donald Trump. Your candidate doesn't even honor the flag she wishes to represent, the DNC didn't even fly a flag till it became viral. He may be flawed, maybe even very flawed and unpolished. Your talking about constitutional THIS and that but your candidate wants to tear it apart. A culture that wants to brainwash and mold the youths mind to line up with their ass backwards agenda. This country needs a revolution to remind our sweet government to whom this country actually belongs to, and it doesn't involve the wallets of the Soros' and Rothschild's of the world....that's for sure.Your ideas are unconstitutional. You forget the government is of the people, it derives its powers from the people. For the government to hold the people to some test is alien to this form of government.
Hmm there have been quite a few Presidents who have exceeded their Constitutional Mandates, or completely threw it out the window now that you think about it....There is only ONE candidate that is for The People and his name is Donald Trump. Your candidate doesn't even honor the flag she wishes to represent, the DNC didn't even fly a flag till it became viral. He may be flawed, maybe even very flawed and unpolished. Your talking about constitutional THIS and that but your candidate wants to tear it apart. A culture that wants to brainwash and mold the youths mind to line up with their ass backwards agenda. This country needs a revolution to remind our sweet government to whom this country actually belongs to, and it doesn't involve the wallets of the Soros' and Rothschild's of the world....that's for sure.
Yeah I hear ya! I'm voting for Ronald Reagan..we will see how close it gets.I'm still voting for Gary Johnson.
I'm a deplorable...Your local legal terrorist checking in! Or am I a clinger, or a deplorable..eh I can't keep up anymore! #Trump16
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Funny how Assange was the left's hero when he was releasing bush stuff..now he's a terrorist. lol irony..I'm a deplorable...
I'm not as good at research as I'd like to be; but this site - WikiLeaks - is amazing... wish I'd tapped into it long ago.