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You’re welcome.'m glad someone asked a couple of pvp questions.
Great comment, and thank you.You’re welcome.Lots of very personal questions were asked and not enough broad questions. My opinion of the dev team changed a little after attending yesterday. I haven’t been to a meet and greet before but damn, it was shocking how incredibly rude people were. The dev team may not be ideal (or even close to ideal) but players not using common human courtesy while communicating isn’t going to get them very far. Hopefully I can make the next one and ask more questions relevant to large unrepresented audiences and or pvp.
I hope they learn a lesson here not to mess with the holiday tokens. I was not happy with the Ice dungeon event and only went in support of guild mates and gave any drops away to members of the guild that were seeking items. I was unhappy with the V day as well. A clicky in Fel was IMO the worse they could have done, the clicky should have been placed in Trammel. Orion hit it on the head with his remarks. Ron was good with the PvP question, I so miss Faction and hate the VvV.Wow just wow
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If they even just added the old faction system to a random shard I'd be happy and move all my chars there. Loved and miss factions so much. I fought against VvV all the way and find it to be a much worse system.I hope they learn a lesson here not to mess with the holiday tokens. I was not happy with the Ice dungeon event and only went in support of guild mates and gave any drops away to members of the guild that were seeking items. I was unhappy with the V day as well. A clicky in Fel was IMO the worse they could have done, the clicky should have been placed in Trammel. Orion hit it on the head with his remarks. Ron was good with the PvP question, I so miss Faction and hate the VvV.
If she can't handle answering players legitimate concerns then she should find someone else to do it or just stop with the M&Gs, I suspect the only reason she does them is to be feted and fussed over by her cheerleaders. When people are less than grovelling her mask slips. Kyronix would be a better choice to do them as he is less likely to fly into a rage at the slightest provocation and sometimes actually sounds like he has a clue.why does she just quit and let someone do the job that knows how to do it, and more importantly WANTS to do it
Any clicky they put out should be in Brit Commons imo.I hope they learn a lesson here not to mess with the holiday tokens. I was not happy with the Ice dungeon event and only went in support of guild mates and gave any drops away to members of the guild that were seeking items. I was unhappy with the V day as well. A clicky in Fel was IMO the worse they could have done, the clicky should have been placed in Trammel. Orion hit it on the head with his remarks. Ron was good with the PvP question, I so miss Faction and hate the VvV.
Minimum wage and free monthly gametime code while you're employed for 10-20 or so hours per week. Wouldn't be a terrible part time gig for what it is.Just please hire a COMMUNITY MANAGER. It's a a minimum wage job, that a retiree with PR experience would (i imagine) love to do. You need a filter, at this point Mesanna takes everything as a personal attack, and to an extent rightfully so - half the people complaining about bugs and things have no idea how the game mechanics actually work, and the other half have valid complaints that Mesanna simply can't address with 2 coders and a 20+ year client and data stream.
Mesanna speaks FACT here.. A lot of players liked it in Fel. You could have gotten them on each shard if you want more. Players are always shard hopping.Wow just wow
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The players asked some very good questions for a change. The devs were able to respond to them.I personally thought that this M&G went down better than most.
I don’t have a thiefThe players asked some very good questions for a change. The devs were able to respond to them.
Some dude who couldn't kill or steal from my NOOB toon thinks pets are OP in PvP.
It went on very long.
Told us the team is too small to catch all cheaters, scripters, and general lowlifes. You would rather have her lie?
She addressed the conspiracy theories with a mic drop. Sorry your wittle fewlings got hurt.
Mesanna: we are not looking in the other direction
Mesanna: even though some of you think we are =P
I saw a lot of communication of game info and human emotion.
What makes you think that most players even play on multiple shards? It takes 14 years to have access to free shard transfers through shard shields. Most people I met during years of gameplay didn't have shard shields at all. I couldn't care less about those gifts but had someone stolen mine, that would be it for me. Not sure why I should grab one on a random shard I don't play. Just to give your "players are always shard hopping" some perspective. I'd rather say only the powerplayers do.Mesanna speaks FACT here.. A lot of players liked it in Fel. You could have gotten them on each shard if you want more. Players are always shard hopping.
Why the **** should they communicate with a bunch of complainers. We should be glad that they put in some things we like and some things other players like. Those of us who log in can have fun every time.
Starting with your house and stableI think they should at this point blow up all of the rest of the game for greed.
If you played on LS, I am currently announcing what shard I am on to bring items back. Also announced the shards I will visit while we could get the Cupids. A lot of of did not quit. We have shields and help others. I'm on Oceana right now, I doubt there was a thief problem here.What makes you think that most players even play on multiple shards? It takes 14 years to have access to free shard transfers through shard shields. Most people I met during years of gameplay didn't have shard shields at all. I couldn't care less about those gifts but had someone stolen mine, that would be it for me. Not sure why I should grab one on a random shard I don't play. Just to give your "players are always shard hopping" some perspective. I'd rather say only the powerplayers do.
You do not know how to skill a new toon? Maybe you should practice. Many of us will be starting NL and gaining skills very fast.They made it clear they're designing NL with scripting in mind, and admitted they cant stop scripting on prodo. Why not approve steam etc then for prodo? This area is very gray, where its officially illegal, but a large portion of players use them with no repercussions (only if you do the ultimate no no like afk scripting). I think there are many players on the fence like me, wanting to know if they should invest time in learning how to write scripts, or not.
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How long do they get to find their way before they’re held accountable? This stuff isn’t that hard - she could look at any number of other studios for examples on how to communicate with a player base better. She’s just more interested in making sure her backside is kissed enough instead of dealing with hard conversations like an adult.I do agree they could communicate better somehow, and they have not found their way yet. I do think she phrased that unfortunately, but that happens, she is being herself, and having everything she says hyper analysed.
Maybe I wrote it incorrectly, I mean why dont they allow it on prodo (I meant pvp related). Who cares about NL, I'll believe it once its live : )You do not know how to skill a new toon? Maybe you should practice. Many of us will be starting NL and gaining skills very fast.
We know how to play UO. We did not know how in 97. Things will go fast no matter what era we are in.
Sadly they have a TC... which they could use... but wasting all this time, effort and energy on a shard that is ... temporary is IMO stupid... But whatever... no turning back now... hopefully after a few they will see the light and give it up... But I doubt it...The new shard sounds alot like a live test center for what they want to take into prodo shards. It not necessary to go through all that to find whats good to implement to prodo. Just play the game or actually listen to your playerbase. It would be so easy but she has always been stubborn and wants things her way or to be her idea or itll never happen. Thats why nothing will ever change while she is in charge
Well that's very nice of you and everyone doing it. I just think it only goes so far. Most people I've met on Atlantic had their hands full playing one shard and no business in any second shard at all. The assumption that everyone is playing multishard and has easy access to shard shields differs a lot from my experience. That's all.If you played on LS, I am currently announcing what shard I am on to bring items back. Also announced the shards I will visit while we could get the Cupids. A lot of of did not quit. We have shields and help others. I'm on Oceana right now, I doubt there was a thief problem here.
You are very much correct. The game developer should exercise their own judgement in how the game should be designed. Also right that players can have priorities that are conflicting with the good of the game at large. However, this approach (and the game) fails when the developer does not possess good judgement as to what is good for the game. Something we see time and time again with UO.*sigh*
I learned an important lesson: "do what feels right to you." Players are going to want what they want. They can't often envision the big picture. You can listen to the ideas. You can even consider some of them to be good ones. You can use them to draw inspiration for your own ideas. But... Never.... Ever.... Give the players exactly what they want.
How long do they get to find their way before they’re held accountable? This stuff isn’t that hard - she could look at any number of other studios for examples on how to communicate with a player base better. She’s just more interested in making sure her backside is kissed enough instead of dealing with hard conversations like an adult.
Going to completely disagree with you, as I find myself doing on most things you say.They can't do anything about scripting 24/7 yet almost every free shard out there has some mechanism to prevent just that. So either they don't want to stop it or they have no idea how to implement the simple software devices used by free shards. If they had added these instead of changing ore/wood to random spots then everyone would be happy. Of course it's easier to just whine every time 'there's nothing we can do' well that's true if you never bother to try anything.
I did not mean you specifically re illegal play. But it is not just pvpers, don't stereotype like that, it is way beyond pvpers.@TB Cookie [W] Your posts always make me laugh, thank you!
TB Cookie [W] said :
"Have you seen how many players there are out there? Have you noticed that a huge percentage of them are technically doing something illegal in 1 form or another?"
Huge percentage? I guess you are referring to PvPers, I wasn't doing anything illegal and nor were any of the people I played with, I never even used UOAssist and I have no idea how to make macros. If I saw something that was against the rules I reported it, not that it did any good.
I'm not trying to be a jerk here so please take this constructively. Did you ever stop to think that these two things went hand in hand? Being uninformed about game mechanics (ie macros) can make someone easily think that someone who does know game mechanics is cheating. You then report that person and the GMs take a look and see no issue.I played with, I never even used UOAssist and I have no idea how to make macros. If I saw something that was against the rules I reported it, not that it did any good.
You say toxic, I call it accountability.Have you ever tried running a world-wide famed internationally renowned classic nostalgic unique incredible 23 year old game like Ultima Online with 5 people? I don't know the reasons they are only allowed that many, it seems UO is raking in the money for some people, and being treated like a Cash Cow - maybe we should be angry with the higher ups, or the people piggybacking off their work? You can hardly run a decent business with 5 people, with all the different tasks that have to be done. Ok, communication with toxic hoards may not be her thing, so what?
Until you have done that successfully, I would really suggest all the Toxic people here just shut up. You are ruining the game for a lot of players with your pancakes and moaning, and sucking the life out of the Devs themselves.
For you all.
Why would they be accountable to you? I'm sure they have owners who they are accountable to, who judge them per their set targets.E
You say toxic, I call it accountability.
The irony here is that I am qualified to speak on the topic of project management. The UO teams size and situation is not unique or special in the development world. However this team suffers from a leader with poor management and project communication skills.