First I was listing things that require no GOLD to play and as far as UO Insurance being the same as Real Life you are very much mistaken because in Real Life you die and you do not get Rezed and have all your stuff returned, sorry. But lets say it happens your rates in real go up so please don't use the BS that real life has insurance because they are nowhere the same.
You are excellent at completely missing the point. It had nothing to do with dying of being rezzed.
Sellers can't exercise a bit of "restraint" when inflation demands they charge higher prices to stay at square one. Have you noticed the surge in prices in U.S. grocery prices over the last seven years? It's also reflected in stable prices but for smaller volumes, e.g. 59-ounce cartons of orange juice. There hasn't been such inflation since the 1970s. In both the real world and UO, it isn't a matter of "greed" or "squeezing consumers," but because currency is worth less and less.
I couldn't agree more. I've said before that no game is like UO because of the vibrancy of a player-driven economy. That duping has skewed prices doesn't detract from the amazing nexus of trade as people push themselves to produce in order to consume.
No, inflation is a cause. It's clear you don't understand it." but because currency is worth less and less." - Well done, glad you understand the definition of inflation
Inflation is a side effect not a cause btw that is my point.
Everything that needs to be said about this has already been said.
Time for action, Time for deeds, Time for Legends.
Limited as in they couldn't acquire any more regardless of giving away anything over 1 billion, or limited in that anything over 1 billion would be forcibly confiscated? Either way, they'd have reduced incentive to continue in what they do. Goodbye to foundations. Goodbye to the jobs they support, from construction workers building and maintaining their houses to all the levels of jobs producing the technology they personally use.
I'm not sure which post you were replying to, but speaking generically, forcing more money into an economy would only lead to higher prices. We don't see this in developed economies because few "save" money by hiding it somewhere, rather, they deposit it in some sort of institution that lends it out. Yet even if we went back several centuries before the rise of banking, most anyone who "hoarded" gold did so in order to use it later for consumption. Very few acquire gold just for the sake of the shiny metal.
Inflation is a cause. but before that something causes inflation. That something is too much gold pouring into the game (through scripting and duping) and far too few outlets (such as gold sinks).
Since you clearly do not understand the concept of inflation, I'll point out for you that since vendor fees are almost fully based on percentage, then any inflation does not matter.
No. And since you haven't noticed, if you tried implementing in UO what is done in real world progressive tax systems, it would do nothing but push prices even higher. Do you think that if a store were charged higher taxes based on what a government declares is a higher tier of prices, then based on the minimum it must charge to offer the products for sale, the store wouldn't raise prices even more to cover the taxes? If you agree with that fundamental truth, why do you think UO would be any different? Businesses do not pay taxes; they only pass them on to buyers.
It is already very fair, because people produce more in order to consume. UO is even easier than the real world because how most players produce is non-rivalrous.
Don't look now, but the risk is already borne by those attempting to sell. You can sell for a high price and maximize profit, or you can move products faster. I had a Yew vendor for a good while when the abbey was Sonoma's hotspot. I had a pretty good business selling GM leather suits, giving you an idea of how long ago that was.
Yes, the global system to charge a bit per transaction, and do other insidious things, to stifle the marvelous network that's created our global prosperity.
I agree with point a) and half of point b).
It's the next step in an increase of the money supply, and some define it further as an increase that's greater than the increase in demand of goods. "Inflation is always and everywhere a monetary phenomenon in the sense that it is and can be produced only by a more rapid increase in the quantity of money than in output." - Milton Friedman
Didn't do well in history, psychology, and sociology classes I see.
As I replied to someone else: as long as the dupers keep going, everyone else is dragged down. No matter what one would have charged, he needs to keep up in charging higher prices if he needs that income to consume.
Actually, I did extraordinarily well. What I posted is completely factual. Instead of your general talk about "the same bad experiences" and "various revolutions," which I have studied and written about extensively, do you have a specific point? Or are you saying that because people can't take the wealth of others, they will revolt?
Actually, the first principle is that people respond to incentives. But you are correct in the general idea that if the pie increases, a person can still have more even if he maintains the same percentage — or less. What's wanting, however, is your idea of how to increase the pie.
There are simple principles of economies that even a virtual world cannot ignore. Inflation is one of them.
The debate these two are having is going to be interesting to follow. Two schools of thought going at it, evidence vs evidence. Going to be an educational experience.
Provided you have the 90 million to toss around to start with. (and yes, I do
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If you dont have 1ooM , you need to re-think your gameplay!!Provided you have the 90 million to toss around to start with. (and yes, I do
I've got around double that which is more than I have any use for given I don't do rares or high end gear. Heck I was tossing checks to make room for storage of useful stuff when I left for a couple years. The new money system their talking about making would have been handy back then.
That would help though I'm sure castle owners will foam like a rabid orc that it's unfair.
While a) would be nice stopping duping has proven to be elusive over the years, it's more like a game of whack-a-mole, but I agree that b) is the correct solution and have suggested it over the years. No one actually loses anything, the richest will still be the richest and the poorest still the poorest and since UO is a closed system no one can game the conversion. 1 Decimal place is sufficient. Almost all transaction would then be able to be carried out with vendors since the 1 billion gold items are now 100m.
More stupid ideas. I have been playing for 17 years and got my castles like maybe 3-4 years ago so now I have to pay a bigger TAX for my Castles, how about you or UO give me e rebate for all the years I supported them without a Castle. Yes I have what some consider rares and now I have to pay extra for that too. Until you pay for multiple accounts for over 17 years non stop then please keep the idea that longer paying vets should pay even more. You don't think paying all those years and supporting UO so UO is still here for you to play means nothing. Please until you have something useful to say than say nothing at all.That would help though I'm sure castle owners will foam like a rabid orc that it's unfair.
Another idea would be taxing rare treasures. Those with tons of rares could brag about how high a tax they pay compared to that trash collecter next door who goes on & on about all the awesome stuff he's collected.
I still think they should just do gold removal in an in game fashion though. Actually dangerous NPC brigands rob travelers, obviously wealthy houses of the well off get robbed occasionally unless they employ well paid NPC security guards, NPC gold transfers between banks get stolen and never seen again ( a small percentage hit on a random number of bank balances), and such shenanigans. How imaginative can the Devs get?
Your house should fall for not paying a UO tax? What are they, the IRS? I don't see any purpose in this, aside from targeting individuals with keeps and castles as an additional gold sink. Having a house fall because you didn't pay some arbitrary tax bill is the last thing this game needs.
Are you advocating that Broadsword should axe most of the EM team, do one event per month on a random shard, and have that one event drop a single or very small number of powerful weapons or pieces of armor?
I think less EM events would certainly lead to less people playing Ultima Online. Players clamor for more content not less. And like you mentioned above, there was great player turn out and not one EM event item was handed out. So it isn't necessarily about the event item is it?
