It's kinda like RL anniversaries, as they come and go, they tend to mean less and not be quite as big a deal...oh wait, did I say that out loud?!?!
Really now? They just busted their a$$es off producing a new expansion for you, and everyone else to enjoy. You shouldn't take things for granted. You make it seem like the Developers don't do anything at all, when in reality, if they didn't, this game wouldn't even be here right now.Did I say ANYTHING about wanting a handout? Good god.
I said that the anniversary went by without any fanfare -- most importantly any mention at all on UO's website.
I also referenced Calvin's post where he said to STAY TUNED FOR THESE ANNOUNCEMENTS.
And, uh, yeah, I'm sorry for expecting the Developers to do anything with the game at all. I'm sure you've never posted a want anywhere, right?
*insert marriage joke here*Do you really need handouts every anniversery?
...And, uh, yeah, I'm sorry for expecting the Developers to do anything with the game at all.
The one exception*insert marriage joke here*
Sure, you can, as long as you keep it in context:Leap of logic? I can quote a remark you made implying that they don't do anything for the game...
To which I responded:You wrote:
Don't force it upon the developers to tend to your wants.
Don't try to pick and choose my comments individually to help bolster your own poor, ineffective argument.And, uh, yeah, I'm sorry for expecting the Developers to do anything with the game at all. I'm sure you've never posted a want anywhere, right?
I simply asked for more information on it. I didn't say, "If they don't answer this question right now, that's it, I'm canceling my accounts and quitting UO." If you don't want a status update, that's fine, you don't have to ask for them. I do. I'm excited to hear about what they have to say. Sorry if that means I ask questions.Calvin made a statement indicating there will be a future announcement. Since when have any indicated announcements been made within a reasonable amount of time? I agree that it would have been nice to have an announcement for the anniversery, but then again, I look at it from their perspective and mine. I don't just simply sit here and say "oh geez, they didn't do that for no good reason at all." - but perhaps they didn't? or whoever manages the Herald forgot? (which probably isn't a developer to begin with).
I never implied they should produce anniversary content. Does it take a developer to post on the Herald, "Happy anniversary, UO!"? Did I say anything about anniversary rewards at all? No. Thanks for putting words into my posts, but they're simply not there.You have all rights to ask questions, I never said you didn't. But to sit around and imply that the developers should produce anniversery content specifically for the oldest players in the game every year isn't reasonable. Up until about 2 or three years ago, the anniversery rewards have been the same since their introduction (for the most part). The developers implement TONS of content yearly that once obtained, becomes someones storage space and then they [those people] start asking for more. I can say I'm fairly satisified with what they've done with the rewards up until now. I would rather them focus on other content that all players can enjoy for instance special events etc. rather than implementing more anniversery content.
lol12th anniversary Gifts - Yes
11th year veteran rewards - Yes
12th year veteran rewards - Yes
Halloween event/goodies - Yes
When - soon
Spoilers - no
Neon dye tub? yes?
Um.... will that be sometime this Century? While the game and myself are still active?12th anniversary Gifts - Yes
11th year veteran rewards - Yes
12th year veteran rewards - Yes
Halloween event/goodies - Yes
When - soon
Spoilers - no
Neon dye tub?
I'm looking over YOUR points? YOU are the one who just completely and totally twisted ALL of MY original points and posts into something YOU wanted them to mean, and I am the one ignoring YOUR points? I don't have to define one damned thing about YOUR argument.Honestly Radian, you're really looking over my points. If you could even define the arguement I was trying to make, I would be quite pleased.
Do you even know what the word context means? You chose a line in my post that was in response to YOUR response to my original post. You're now quoting it as though what I said was a factoid in and of itself that somehow stands on its own without any consideration of what it was in response to. The line that you quoted was NOT in my original post, it was NOT one of my original points. It was in response to YOUR post. Context is EXTREMELY important.As far as the context goes, I don't really know what you mean by that. You simply made a quote, and I quoted it. Context really doesn't have much to do with that.
Yes, I am satisfied. I was simply expressing interest and concern. Whatever you were trying to express was lost in jumbling my post to meet your own view of my sentiments that you somehow determined meant that I was crying and begging for something.Now you got a developer reply. It's still "to be announced." Hope you're satisfied.
Probably?If anyone was really being a jerk about anything, it was probably myself. I tend to post my thoughts more inconstructively than I would like too.
hehe Thank god for no neon dye tubs.12th anniversary Gifts - Yes
11th year veteran rewards - Yes
12th year veteran rewards - Yes
Halloween event/goodies - Yes
When - soon
Spoilers - no
Neon dye tub?
I would assume it's a safe bet to assume by Halloween (since it includes Halloween content...)Um.... will that be sometime this Century? While the game and myself are still active?
Don't hold your breath.I would assume it's a safe bet to assume by Halloween (since it includes Halloween content...)
You make it sound like you want it all right now, lol.Um.... will that be sometime this Century? While the game and myself are still active?12th anniversary Gifts - Yes
11th year veteran rewards - Yes
12th year veteran rewards - Yes
Halloween event/goodies - Yes
When - soon
Spoilers - no
Neon dye tub?
Not directed just at you Viper, just replying in general to the thread.You make it sound like you want it all right now, lol.
It's not even close to Halloween. Grow some patience.
12th anniversary Gifts - Yes
11th year veteran rewards - Yes
12th year veteran rewards - Yes
Halloween event/goodies - Yes
When - soon
Spoilers - no
Neon dye tub?
What about the in game 11th items, not vet rewards and not the snowy tree stuff in the store, but the items Draconi and others said were coming? And I'm not the only who knows about it.12th anniversary Gifts - Yes
11th year veteran rewards - Yes
12th year veteran rewards - Yes
Halloween event/goodies - Yes
When - soon
Spoilers - no
Neon dye tub?
So instead of just saying 'theres an issue' you guys decide instead that 'Silence Is Golden' and wait until there are threads like this to make a statement finally.I was not involved in the 11th anniversary items so I cannot comment about those.
We hate not giving you dates as much as you hate not getting them. But just as an example, we wanted to give you the 12th anniversary gifts and both the 11th and 12th year rewards this week. QA caught some issues with the rewards that we've diligently been working on resolving. Before you blink, you can't make the deadline to be able to publish that week. If we had announced a date before we got QA's thumbs up, we would be backpedaling right now and you guys would not only be aggravated you didn't get them but also feeling let down because we didn't keep our word.
So we do not want to give a date then have to recant. All I can confirm is that we are working on it and you will be getting them soon.
I believe they know... Those folks are pretty tough.Indeed. Thanks for the reply Sak.
Please ignore the raging ranting Canaray. He is the representation of the worst here.
It is SHE, and by 'worst' you must mean 'honest', I'm sure. I'm only echoing the sentiments of many by the years of poor communication on UO's part and the promises they've made to improve things.Indeed. Thanks for the reply Sak.
Please ignore the raging ranting Canaray. He is the representation of the worst here.
Thank you for the update. It is appreciated (er ... by most of us).So we do not want to give a date then have to recant. All I can confirm is that we are working on it and you will be getting them soon.
Sorry, "she"It is SHE, and by 'worst' you must mean 'honest', I'm sure. I'm only echoing the sentiments of many by the years of poor communication on UO's part and the promises they've made to improve things.
most times when I see that bolded part or something similar on the boards all I can think is "thank the ghods"..... I really want the upper management types to completely forget where our dev team works the magic for us, know what I mean?True, but EA pays little attention to UO. The fact that it is still around is quite amazing. I'm sure if EA actually payed attention to UO and gave them more to work with it would be going better over the little things. And it is because of this that I don't get all upset if they don't get the little stuff to us just because of an anniversary or whatnot.
*chuckles* Nonsense... Trust me, I have a beef with Mythic too. They do communicate.Yeah, communication from the dev team has always been pretty crappy.
Well that is your opinion, I can not remember the times the team has said they wanted more communication. Yet when these exploits pop up, what do you get? "we are aware of the problem and are working toward a solution soon." TM*chuckles* Nonsense... Trust me, I have a beef with Mythic too. They do communicate.
Priceless =) hahah now why didn't they do that =)Happy 12th Anniversary Ultima Online!
September 25th marked the 12th anniversary of UO. We appreciate the continued support of the community and have a few things coming up to celebrate!
Although we would love to announce it at this time, we are working out a few kinks recently discovered to bring you some quality vet rewards and anniversary items. Coming up sometime in October is another all shard favorite with more Halloween goodies.
Be sure to check the UO Herald for updates as soon as it becomes available.
/fixed. We are all set to patiently wait now
Happy Anniversary Dev Team, thank you for SA and keep the good stuffs coming!
truthPriceless =) hahah now why didn't they do that =)
I was not involved in the 11th anniversary items so I cannot comment about those.
We hate not giving you dates as much as you hate not getting them. But just as an example, we wanted to give you the 12th anniversary gifts and both the 11th and 12th year rewards this week. QA caught some issues with the rewards that we've diligently been working on resolving. Before you blink, you can't make the deadline to be able to publish that week. If we had announced a date before we got QA's thumbs up, we would be backpedaling right now and you guys would not only be aggravated you didn't get them but also feeling let down because we didn't keep our word.
So we do not want to give a date then have to recant. All I can confirm is that we are working on it and you will be getting them soon.
I was not involved in the 11th anniversary items so I cannot comment about those.
We hate not giving you dates as much as you hate not getting them. But just as an example, we wanted to give you the 12th anniversary gifts and both the 11th and 12th year rewards this week. QA caught some issues with the rewards that we've diligently been working on resolving. Before you blink, you can't make the deadline to be able to publish that week. If we had announced a date before we got QA's thumbs up, we would be backpedaling right now and you guys would not only be aggravated you didn't get them but also feeling let down because we didn't keep our word.
So we do not want to give a date then have to recant. All I can confirm is that we are working on it and you will be getting them soon.
Context = Setting. I quoted you in the context of which you provided, which you implied they didn't do anything at all. It doesn't have to be apart of your OP because the subject was still sharing the same context.I'm looking over YOUR points? YOU are the one who just completely and totally twisted ALL of MY original points and posts into something YOU wanted them to mean, and I am the one ignoring YOUR points? I don't have to define one damned thing about YOUR argument.
Do you even know what the word context means? You chose a line in my post that was in response to YOUR response to my original post. You're now quoting it as though what I said was a factoid in and of itself that somehow stands on its own without any consideration of what it was in response to. The line that you quoted was NOT in my original post, it was NOT one of my original points. It was in response to YOUR post. Context is EXTREMELY important.
Yes, I am satisfied. I was simply expressing interest and concern. Whatever you were trying to express was lost in jumbling my post to meet your own view of my sentiments that you somehow determined meant that I was crying and begging for something.
Probably?
Ummm... maybe because it is committing to things they are uncertain of at this point? Given the sudden appearance of a couple of rather serious bugs that they have to take time to fix - the necessary development time on the Halloween things "coming sometime in October" may not be realistic. Given extra effort by the staff, it could be done, but what if another bug crops up?Priceless =) hahah now why didn't they do that =)
Were getting face paint!!!!! See Sakkarah's signature12th anniversary Gifts - Yes
11th year veteran rewards - Yes
12th year veteran rewards - Yes
Halloween event/goodies - Yes
When - soon
Spoilers - no
Neon dye tub?
And yet very successful games, including the most successful MMOG of all time, manages to (A) communicate while (B) never giving a set date for anything they've ever produced. Ever. I'm with others... it would be extremely nice for Under Development to be used again as a list of (A) stuff they're working on (understanding it may change), (B) issues they're aware of (even if it's "Exploit in puzzle hallway, don't use or be banned,"), and (C) a list of "side projects" that may or may not make it into the game but which are getting active consideration and/or development.Given the 12 year history of the team, whenever they do commit to a date, they get slammed for it over and over again. I'd not answer with anything definite until I were 100% sure it could be done.
Your right to have that belief, but I would say by the preponderance of posts here on Stratics alone that beg and plead for information on important or high-profile topics, you would be in the major minority on that.Despite our impatience like kids on Christmas eve (even though Christmas eve's date has not been announced), I believe that the team is taking the right approach.
One can be patient and still desire information. In fact, I'm far more likely to be patient if I know what's going on.If you really have this much of an issue with the way they handle this, then I'd recommend closing your eyes and visiting the shrine of the lost 9th Virtue: Patience. For those of you that need it, I think the mantra is: Kshanti.
Are you kidding? They have been working their asses off day and night for SA launch. They are HUMAN BEINGS, not machines.September 25th is the Anniversary for UO. That is the day they should have released information on vet rewards, ACKNOWLEDGED the anniversary on the Herald, and generally had fun. (These things should have been released then, not the completely unrelated Halloween as it appears it will be…) They didn't. It’s sad and disheartening. It honestly shows a lack of caring for their player base, and for the game itself in general.