Sorry bud but no back-peddling. Thats why I specifically said "dieing anywhere"
OK, sorry, I had re read my OP before that post. just re read it again - been easier if just that very last line was quoted. Immediately before that was the suggested change for the 'grind' and and examples, the immunity thing (maybe it should restore a small bit of honor virtue, enough to get your stuff, regroup, go at it again).I'll expand...
I've died as many as 10 times, all in a small area, 1 step-> die, 1 step->die, etc. just to get away from the persistence - THat's a Grind.
Rezz killing is a not just a Grind, it's also akin to trolling, imo.
A mob kills you, loots you, "resets", gone forever, THat's a Grind.
The ground covered with dead, layers deep, and you're trying to find You, THat's a Grind.
The 'one-way short cut' in SA, fire island entrance - if you're dead (or alive) you can't use the short cut to go back - THat's a Grind. Bottom layer of Shame, dead, and tho easily done, that's a long trek out, Grind of sorts, as is no recall in Fel dungeons.
You're a regular here, so you've already heard all of the above, because they came from others, I just happened to agree
Dieing is Easy, it's the 'process' associated with dieing that is the grind - being rezzed is not the Restore Point like in a regular computer game, nor should it be, and maybe that's just a
non-static penalty for dieing, That's why Insurance was born if I remember right, people thought it "too much of a Grind" to get their stuff.
I say the grind was there, and still exists in lesser form. Some things can't be insured. A mob has unlimited weight- it doesn't count, so one with 50 str can loot 500 stones, without any effect on stamina, making finding that needle in a haystack of who looted you. I've killed them all and not necessarily found my stuff - maybe they 'reset'. Killing them all just to find my stuff, THat's a Grind. Usually after that, the Fun has been lost for me, and it's hard to restart at that point, so I just Log. and maybe it's just me, and others are saying What Fun, but I know others Aren't. Others can probably give more examples of why dieing is a grind, but it's one point in a complicated issue.
THat's what I meant, back-peddling? no