Pinco's UI

[Khyro]

the summon problem should be fixed now, possibly the bars not updating, give it a try

Client locking up as soon as I choose a character and enter the world. Unfortunately can't get the debug window open at all.

Edit: Possibly related to closing the veteran rewards gump. Loaded standard UI, enabled logging, switch to Pinco's UI, logged out, logged in, once i right-clicked on veteran gump to close it, client locked up.

Edit 2: Might not be veterans gump, I think it's related to mousing over anything, or anything with a popup window. I can load standard UI, switch to Pinco's and be fine if i dont move the mouse. Once I move the mouse over an object, it seems to lockup.

Compared 3 different sets of logs and these are the last entry in them:

[17/11/05][15:30:10] [Function]: PaperdollWindow.ItemMouseOver( 0.0000, 18.3416, 1760.7086 )
[17/11/05][15:22:06] [Function]: Hotbar.ItemMouseOver( 0.0000, 29.2027, -496.4563 )

Could be coincidental. Maybe whatever's causing the crash isn't making it to the log.

 

[Dot_Warner]

@Pinco

Whatever you did in the last patch crashes my client 100% of the time if I try to open my backpack.

Please revert...

 

[Pinco]

Client locking up as soon as I choose a character and enter the world. Unfortunately can't get the debug window open at all.

Edit: Possibly related to closing the veteran rewards gump. Loaded standard UI, enabled logging, switch to Pinco's UI, logged out, logged in, once i right-clicked on veteran gump to close it, client locked up.

Edit 2: Might not be veterans gump, I think it's related to mousing over anything, or anything with a popup window. I can load standard UI, switch to Pinco's and be fine if i dont move the mouse. Once I move the mouse over an object, it seems to lockup.

Compared 3 different sets of logs and these are the last entry in them:

[17/11/05][15:30:10] [Function]: PaperdollWindow.ItemMouseOver( 0.0000, 18.3416, 1760.7086 )
[17/11/05][15:22:06] [Function]: Hotbar.ItemMouseOver( 0.0000, 29.2027, -496.4563 )

Could be coincidental. Maybe whatever's causing the crash isn't making it to the log.

@Pinco

Whatever you did in the last patch crashes my client 100% of the time if I try to open my backpack.

Please revert...

that was just a typo, now it should be fine

I've made some changes on the healthbars update routine, now if something goes wrong during the update we should see an error pop up...

 

[Dot_Warner]

Having to play in the default UI has made me realize that the death-related lag is due to Pinco's... As is the lag due to re-equipping from your corpse.

This needs to be addressed ASAP.

I'll go through one more death cycle in the default before updating the UI...

 

[Dot_Warner]

Okay, death in the default UI is virtually instantaneous, as is re-equipping from whats on your corpse.

In the current version of Pinco's the death animation (from time of death to actually being able to move as a ghost) is upwards of 20+ seconds, and re-equipping has a slight, but noticeable freeze/lag.

I know this is not due to my PC, as its incredibly overpowered for UO. I'm guessing this has something to do with the red overlay or heartbeat sound.

Whatever is causing it needs to be found and fixed.

 

[Pinco]

Okay, death in the default UI is virtually instantaneous, as is re-equipping from whats on your corpse.

In the current version of Pinco's the death animation (from time of death to actually being able to move as a ghost) is upwards of 20+ seconds, and re-equipping has a slight, but noticeable freeze/lag.

I know this is not due to my PC, as its incredibly overpowered for UO. I'm guessing this has something to do with the red overlay or heartbeat sound.

Whatever is causing it needs to be found and fixed.

As I explained in the past, the more hotbars you have the more lag you'll have. With the basic 3 hotbars I can die and get the body instantly without lag.
Also after the latest changes is quite possible that the character profile is bugged. Make a backup of the User Data folder then delete it and try to start over with a clean profile and see how it goes...
You can also try to see if it happens when you have many items in your backpack or also when you have few, and stuff like that

 

[Dot_Warner]

As I explained in the past, the more hotbars you have the more lag you'll have. With the basic 3 hotbars I can die and get the body instantly without lag.
Also after the latest changes is quite possible that the character profile is bugged. Make a backup of the User Data folder then delete it and try to start over with a clean profile and see how it goes...
You can also try to see if it happens when you have many items in your backpack or also when you have few, and stuff like that

On the character I was playing, I have only 8 hot bars and a pack full of 91 items. But this happens on all my characters.

The default was instantaneous, with Pinco's it was a laggy.

If your hotbars are the culprits, then they need fixing, or a way to make whatever their extra feature(s) that cause it toggleable.

I really don't want to have to constantly be making a new profile for each character... That's a lot of work.

 

[Zeke]

The change you made to the skills tracker isn't working. I have my skills on the Custom Tab but the tracker just shows the message that you need to put skills on the custom tab.

 

[Pinco]

On the character I was playing, I have only 8 hot bars and a pack full of 91 items. But this happens on all my characters.

The default was instantaneous, with Pinco's it was a laggy.

If your hotbars are the culprits, then they need fixing, or a way to make whatever their extra feature(s) that cause it toggleable.

I really don't want to have to constantly be making a new profile for each character... That's a lot of work.

it might be a lot of work, but with the new saving system, remaking the profiles will improve the whole thing... and since all the character are completely separated now it will make easier to see what's piling up.

The change you made to the skills tracker isn't working. I have my skills on the Custom Tab but the tracker just shows the message that you need to put skills on the custom tab.

it should work now

 

[Pinco]

On the character I was playing, I have only 8 hot bars and a pack full of 91 items. But this happens on all my characters.

The default was instantaneous, with Pinco's it was a laggy.

If your hotbars are the culprits, then they need fixing, or a way to make whatever their extra feature(s) that cause it toggleable.

I really don't want to have to constantly be making a new profile for each character... That's a lot of work.

oh and by the way, if you have an old fat profile of any of your characters that you can send me, it will be very useful to find out what's piling up in there
Since the saved variables now are lighter, the profile is the only place where nasty things may pile up and cause problems when they get too fat...

 

[Pinco]

On the character I was playing, I have only 8 hot bars and a pack full of 91 items. But this happens on all my characters.

The default was instantaneous, with Pinco's it was a laggy.

If your hotbars are the culprits, then they need fixing, or a way to make whatever their extra feature(s) that cause it toggleable.

I really don't want to have to constantly be making a new profile for each character... That's a lot of work.

ok, now with the latest version, a cleanup has been installed to remove unused data from the profile. I've also slowed the hotbars update, but having too many hotbars (the total number of slots visible to be exact), will cause lag.
In general, since the UI does not work on a separate process each visible element of the UI will slow down the entire game, so the best policy is to keep the less elements as possible visible at time. So having more than 3-4 full hotbars (always keep in mind that the number of slots counts not the number of hotbars), is the best thing.... you can have more hotbars but keeping them closed is better.

 

[Dot_Warner]

ok, now with the latest version, a cleanup has been installed to remove unused data from the profile. I've also slowed the hotbars update, but having too many hotbars (the total number of slots visible to be exact), will cause lag.
In general, since the UI does not work on a separate process each visible element of the UI will slow down the entire game, so the best policy is to keep the less elements as possible visible at time. So having more than 3-4 full hotbars (always keep in mind that the number of slots counts not the number of hotbars), is the best thing.... you can have more hotbars but keeping them closed is better.

I regret to inform you that despite my brand new profile, death is still significantly lagged - as is re-equipping

Edit: My mobiles bars also don't show anything at all...

 

[Pinco]

I regret to inform you that despite my brand new profile, death is still significantly lagged - as is re-equipping

Edit: My mobiles bars also don't show anything at all...

with you're profile is all running fine, I don't really know how to replicate the issue...

 

[Dot_Warner]

with you're profile is all running fine, I don't really know how to replicate the issue...

Sent you a copy of my new profile.

 

[MalagAste]

I've tried and tried but the racial ability page is always BLANK... then if I run the debug window it's there but the next time I log in it's gone again...

This is with a "brand new" profile as I deleted the user data folder and have been rebuilding all my profiles...


Also I like to make a profile and then copy it onto other characters... but then it's EXTREMELY odd to have my girls getting a manly voice or vice versa... can I somehow change the voice????? I can't find a voice setting...

 

[Zeke]

@Pinco I've been getting the following window when I log on to my chars now:

 

[Pinco]

I've tried and tried but the racial ability page is always BLANK... then if I run the debug window it's there but the next time I log in it's gone again...

This is with a "brand new" profile as I deleted the user data folder and have been rebuilding all my profiles...


Also I like to make a profile and then copy it onto other characters... but then it's EXTREMELY odd to have my girls getting a manly voice or vice versa... can I somehow change the voice????? I can't find a voice setting...

that's because the character ID is saved inside the profile, and copying that will force the UI to use the ID of the wrong character... anyway, I've added an auto-change ID at the first login, it will reload the UI and should be fixed.

@Pinco I've been getting the following window when I log on to my chars now:
View attachment 73946

it should be gone now

 

[Zeke]

Thanks

 

[Zeke]

@Pinco looks like your a decimal place off on the skills:

Either that or I'm in God Mode

 

[Pinco]

@Pinco looks like your a decimal place off on the skills:
View attachment 73947
Either that or I'm in God Mode

try now

 

[MalagAste]

Racial page in the characters abilities profile is still always blank and I have to run the debug window everytime I want to open and use it.

 

[Pinco]

Racial page in the characters abilities profile is still always blank and I have to run the debug window everytime I want to open and use it.

try now

 

[MalagAste]

try now

Appears to be working now thank you!

 

[Zeke]

@Pinco Pet bars don't stay in the pet bar box with the latest patch.

 

[MalagAste]

Pinco something odd I noticed in the journal:



I seem to have a LOT of skills the decimal is off...

 

[Zeke]

@MalagAste he fixed that earlier today and I'm not seeing it now. Have you patched lately?

 

[Pinco]

@Pinco Pet bars don't stay in the pet bar box with the latest patch.

I can't replicate this, check the debug window when it happens to see if there are any errors...

 

[Dot_Warner]

I'm being told that latest patch is causing people to freeze/crash when they dismount and mount a LIVE pet. Requiring a client restart to get back in game.

Ethereals work just fine.

 

[Khyro]

I'm being told that latest patch is causing people to freeze/crash when they dismount and mount a LIVE pet. Requiring a client restart to get back in game.

Ethereals work just fine.

No problems here with mounting/dismounting. Tried on a couple characters with swamp dragon, blue beetle, and fire steed. Maybe a certain pet type or some other combination of events?

 

[Zeke]

The skill gain msg in the journal has the decimal point off like the tracker had b4.

 

[Pinco]

Pinco something odd I noticed in the journal:
View attachment 73963


I seem to have a LOT of skills the decimal is off...

The skill gain msg in the journal has the decimal point off like the tracker had b4.

that should be working

I'm being told that latest patch is causing people to freeze/crash when they dismount and mount a LIVE pet. Requiring a client restart to get back in game.

Ethereals work just fine.

I can't replicate that...

 

[Zeke]

All my mobile bars are no longer working.

 

[Dot_Warner]

I can't replicate that...

It randomly fixed itself for those who were afflicted. *shrugs*

 

[Pinco]

All my mobile bars are no longer working.

It randomly fixed itself for those who were afflicted. *shrugs*

now it should be better, give it a try

 

[Parnoc]

Anyone else timing out sitting idle anywhere very quickly, like 2 minutes or less?
I tried to do Medusa with my guild, and I lost connection at least 20 times there, is it connected to the mobiles bar? or somehow to party? One time I could not move my character but I could cast Chivalry spells and they worked but still could not move.

 

[Khyro]

Getting a weird "Health Bounce" thing going on with target bar:



Was doing a Scalis today and it was really bad. The health would bounce between 4-5 different values before showing it's actual health, then starting the cycle over again (e.g. 0% > 100% > 86% > 74% > 60 % > 0% > 100% > 86%, etc..)

Also at one point today I lost all my separate mobile windows (Blue bar, Orange bar, etc.). I captured this in the error log, but don't think it shows the cause, only that it couldn't update the bars:



Had to completely close client and reload it for them to work again.

 

[Pinco]

Getting a weird "Health Bounce" thing going on with target bar:

View attachment 74022

Was doing a Scalis today and it was really bad. The health would bounce between 4-5 different values before showing it's actual health, then starting the cycle over again (e.g. 0% > 100% > 86% > 74% > 60 % > 0% > 100% > 86%, etc..)

Also at one point today I lost all my separate mobile windows (Blue bar, Orange bar, etc.). I captured this in the error log, but don't think it shows the cause, only that it couldn't update the bars:

View attachment 74023

Had to completely close client and reload it for them to work again.

try now, see how goes

 

[Khyro]

try now, see how goes

Having some issues with inventory icons after the latest patch:



Also looks like the debug window auto opens on login again.

 

[Parnoc]

Having some issues with inventory icons after the latest patch:

View attachment 74050

Also looks like the debug window auto opens on login again.

What Khyro says, I'm having the same problems, impossible to find stuff, can still see description with mouse over and can see names in List mode but no graphics and Legacy mode seems to be ok but of course unusable.

 

[Zeke]

Having the same problems with my Pack and I also get the Bug Window pop up when I log on.

 

[Grizz]

Having the same issues items there but no image of anything. Mouse over says what it is but no image just a number for qty.
The issue with health bars has been going on for a few days seems what ever i target is picking up my pets health numbers. If pet is at 80 % health so is every thing else i target, even if it has not taken any damage. The mobile bar did display the correct number.
Any then as i fight stuff my pets health will show the targets number then cycle back to the correct numbers.
Its getting a little crazy trying to see what is happening want to play but can't when you cant see whats in your bag rune books, bandies and anything else.

 

[Pinco]

Having some issues with inventory icons after the latest patch:

View attachment 74050

Also looks like the debug window auto opens on login again.

What Khyro says, I'm having the same problems, impossible to find stuff, can still see description with mouse over and can see names in List mode but no graphics and Legacy mode seems to be ok but of course unusable.

Having the same problems with my Pack and I also get the Bug Window pop up when I log on.

Having the same issues items there but no image of anything. Mouse over says what it is but no image just a number for qty.
The issue with health bars has been going on for a few days seems what ever i target is picking up my pets health numbers. If pet is at 80 % health so is every thing else i target, even if it has not taken any damage. The mobile bar did display the correct number.
Any then as i fight stuff my pets health will show the targets number then cycle back to the correct numbers.
Its getting a little crazy trying to see what is happening want to play but can't when you cant see whats in your bag rune books, bandies and anything else.

let's see now how it goes

 

[Zeke]

@Pinco still not seeing anything in my pack. BTW I didn't notice a patch when I started a couple of minutes ago...

 

[Zeke]

BTW it's not just my backpack, but most containers aren't showing things.

 

[Pinco]

BTW it's not just my backpack, but most containers aren't showing things.

what about now?

 

[Tildi Daintree]

@Pinco
Firstly... Thank You for your awesome UI....! Love it
I am hoping a few bugs can be sorted out that turned up since the recent updates/patches...

Having some issues, including the SKILL TRACKER.
I cant post a screenshot, because I don't have anywhere to host the picture.

My skill tracker is showing my skills as follows:
* Animal Lore 120/1200
etc....

 

[Zeke]

Packs and bars are working again. Thanks @Pinco

 

[Pinco]

@Pinco
Firstly... Thank You for your awesome UI....! Love it
I am hoping a few bugs can be sorted out that turned up since the recent updates/patches...

Having some issues, including the SKILL TRACKER.
I cant post a screenshot, because I don't have anywhere to host the picture.

My skill tracker is showing my skills as follows:
* Animal Lore 120/1200
etc....

it should work now

 

[Parnoc]

NPC Purchase Gumps are blank to me, anyone else?

 

[Khyro]

NPC Purchase Gumps are blank to me, anyone else?

Same here, just tested. Here's the error log: