I know the problem. You said it's not about the loot, not me. I know it's about the loot, that's why people choose to pvp here rather than a shard with insurance.
That is true for many but not all. I am here to rp pvp and never loot so its not a factor in why I play Siege.
I enjoy the fighting style on Siege because its less item based. You can't run around in super maxed out suit (at least without great risk and expense) so fights rely on your character's skills as well as your skills as a pvper to a much higher degree.
The way you manage mana for instance (as least for my character) is extremely different. I can't just spam special moves and have my suit supply 70 to my mana pool and max mana regen, and hp regen and extra bonus's that just happen to be on the high end gear. Instead I have to balance between using it offensively and defensively to attack, heal, defend. I have to craft my battle, set someone up, and then kill them.
I do support the VvV items because I have shared the Hi-5 experience of trying to bring members of my guild over and most don't stay because of the cost and frustration of trying to replace gear.
However unlike Hi-5 I can see outside of my own perspective and completely understand why others on Siege do not want to see these artifacts here. I support the available to any player/playstyle philosophy and making them part of the library turn-in system which already exists on siege, and is available to all players, seems to be the best solution.
Allow VvV players to turn in Banners etc so they can use their silver for reward points and gain the VvV items in that way. Other players can earn them without being part of VvV by turning in items as they do now.
There is a system in place that no one is complaining about that works, adding these artifacts to that system so they are available to all players makes sense. I support Freja's idea to lower turn in points because these items are hard to obtain and can be lost easily..... However, adding them even at the current high cost might be the most balanced solution. Currently the shard is not over run with the library artifacts yet someone motivated enough to get one can. A person can use their siege bless if they want to protect the artifact or run with multiple items at the risk of losing them.
To me this seems like a fair compromise, people will continue to rely on character crafted imbued items and supplement with loot and artifacts rather then the reverse of relying heavily on artifacts and filling the wholes with imbued items and loot.
I also think if presented in this manner you might get guilds like Gilfane and players like Kelmo to say "We still don't love the idea BUT its not 100% horrible and not the end of Siege as we know it"
and likely guilds like Hi-5 will say, "WE wanted them like they are on Prodo not available to everyone and not as library turn-ins BUT its better to have the option rather then not having them available on the shard at all"
And for someone like me looking at all sides I can say, "It gives players more options in terms of item availability without putting any group at an advantage or disadvantage."
-Lore
Frodo, as far I know you do not play here
