keel, barok, and OverBird. I need your Crux Ansata character names, I have everyone elses that has (so far) participated in this thread.
First: thanks for setting this up, and for that great list of hints.
My main Crux event character is Casandra. I'm relatively new to RPing and I can only remember a few role calls, though I've been to a bunch of events on various characters since coming back to UO. Unfortunately, I'm not sure if I technically qualify to call myself a Crux Knight. Hope I'm not meddling in other folks affairs.
Lord Dupre became 'involved' at the request of Sherry, although this hasn't been stated anywhere but the herald yet. (hint, READ the herald, its important!
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Time to go look at that new fiction again.
Queen Dawn? does it go back that far? if it does then we need to add like Lord British, Cosca, Lord Blackthorn, and maybe Orrs? How about Danica's sister Charlotte and Adamu's Parents possible holders of rings?
10. That certain 'rule' being that they be given to the first born child?
I think this was at least the one main rule, Adamu says it twice: "the first born child. Always the first." This would mean that Danica's sister wouldn't hold a ring. But the others are possible.
1. Ah, nope. If you mentioned it before, that's one thing I can't recall.
2. I wouldn't even know where to begin?
We know from the report he handed them out when he donned the white cowl. Since he came into owning 25 rings (24 + his ring), my guess is he didn't inherit them. He was either given them, or created them. I just read this
UO Stratics - Atlantic News to try and catch up (Second article, about the crowning/Adamu phase. Need to read more, anyone got links?) I was thinking that this happened shortly after he grew up, but this post feels like the end of an event arc. But: The key members of that arc probably have rings too.
I've looked into the fiction and I can only find stuff on Jordan Cromwell, nothing in the Herald to center me in the timeline though.
3. Honour is one's personal integrity, or an allegiance to moral principles. Justice is righteousness, equitableness, or moral rightness. It is also the principle that punishment should be proportionate to the offense. This is where my mind draws a blank. I'll think about it tomorrow...
I'll add what I've got the think-tank. As Dupre is the champion of Honor, it seems that Jaana is the champion of Justice. This is from UOGuide:
The Legend of Jaana and the Goblin King
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It is said that, during a war between Humanity and Goblins, the humans captured a great goblin king, and brought him to Jaana, a judge at the time, for trial. She informed them, "this is war, just kill him." The people insisted that the king be tried, so Jaana donned her robes and listened to their case, heard about the goblin king's terrible crimes.
However, Jaana acquitted the king. His crimes were in the course of a war and besides, he was a goblin, not subject to humanity's laws. The proper course, she informed the people again, was to kill him in the course of war, not to parade him around for a trial.
The people were outraged as Jaana set the goblin king free, but their rage did not last long. Being a goblin, the king could not contain his bloodlust and attacked Jaana immediately upon being released.
Jaana killed him.
The parallels to Amandine are there. Except it would seem Amandine didn't go the route of trying and then killing Nardello. She just killed him, jumping over the rest of the process. I have to think more on this.
In the much longer
The Tale of Dupre and the Gargoyles - The Codex of Editable Wisdom, a Wikia wiki for Ultima and Ultima Online it's told of how Dupre trained his foes in the ways of combat to save his own skin, but in doing so was able to convince the Gargoyles he was fighting to join him in exchanging cultural ideas and pursuing a sense of Unity.
Some more notes of interest:
Trinsic is the town of Honor, Yew is the town of Justice. Dupre from Tinsic, Amandine from Yew.
Honor is from Truth and Love, Justice is from Truth and Courage.
More on Dupre, from the moment of his death: (from the Codex of Ultima Wisdom)
At the moment of the offering, Dupre, wracked with guilt over the atrocities he had committed and reluctant to let his friend face death, pushed the Avatar aside and jumped into the flames, martyring himself to restore the world. His last words were, "Let it be said that Sir Dupre died bravely!"
He was then resurrected. Could Dupre have been one of the original nobles Serian Married? My guess is no, since Bennu says it doesnt matter if he's got a ring, but I still think itd be cool
6. Possibly pretty far considering Adamu's power.
Agreed, but I think this goes with #1 and #2.
8. He could (and did) help by creating dissonance and distrust not only in the peasantry towards the ruling military power, but also within said same military power. Us.
Agreed. And the Ourboros family, choosing not to redistribute their power, but let the rings fall where they may in a chaotic fashion. And was he behind the bombing of Blackthorn's Castle? That'd be all three modes of society: the good (crux), and the symbolic, and the bad.
By removing the pillars of society everything erupts into disorder. He capitalized on the peasants fears and helped drive them to riot. And most of all, he gave his life for the cause. It wracks the heart if you align with Nardello.
Some more thoughts:
The first note proves TT was the real head honcho behind this affair. She also moved the meetings to be closer to the Crux in Jhelom.
The third note, that Nardello has gone rogue, means that he diverged from the plans to bomb the city, which they talk about in the second image. (which, if I'm understanding this, could mean the ancient Yew at blighted grove. Everything about this plant is poisonous, explaining how Nardello seemed to have the ability to throw poison explosions. And fire could poison the air.) Where was that one taken again?
The note found in Trisha's Cell read "Compassion can cure more sins than condemnation." Did Dupre write this, or did Nardello? Same for the Frame of the Man. Dupre could have released Trisha the night we killed Nardello, I suppose she could have had time to talk to Jimmy before we arrived if Dupre had done it early enough.
But this got me:
#4: Sherry called the first meeting and was there hidden, she was going to speak... then things 'shifted'.
This leads me to believe that she meant to intervene in the proceedings, explaining or divulging information about Nardello's plans, before Amandine ran off in anger and ran right up to a known criminal and killed him. It would seem then that Sherry, and Lady Amadine, were well aware of Nardello's group's plans well ahead of their happenings. But Nardello went off course.
So follow me, it's late this is probably crackpot. Tresha moved her operations to Jhelom. Jhelom probably had one of the highest arrest rates, and it was home to the Crux. It was a great place to hide from: in plain view. Britain was completely uncontrollable, but highly raided. They plan to sneak off one night and raid/cover Britain and the Crux show up, right on time. Tresha tells Jimmy to attack us. Jimmy escapes and Tresha gets caught. Jimmy kills members of the Ouroboros to embroil Amandine. Jimmy offers himself up because he was a coward and left his girl to be taken by the militia.
Goodnight guys