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What makes an archer OP is that people assume they are OP and dont try to counter them, Basically complaining that their current template cannot kill the archer..
This is exactly what I mean, you just make things up as you go along to make it suit your needs. Point out the line where I said my stealth archer died? I never used those words.
This was the most ignorant statement ever. This person clearly does not pvp. Again there are about a million posts here and I don't feel like reading them all, it probably turns into flaming anyway. Here is my input, bows themselves are the only thing that needs to be nerfed. All weapons in the game should follow the same rules. WHY bows were ever given the option of 40 swingspeed or balanced is beyond me. Bows do higher damage, and at a range, this should in turn cost speed. WHY they get the additional hitspell of velocity, again, beyond me. Bows should be capped at 30 ssi, like everything else, no balance, and a single hitspell, whether they keep regular hitspells or bows ONLY get velocity. The only other thing I would like to see happen is movingshot cost a more reasonable amount of mana. At this point the shot costs 3 mana and can be chained upwards of 80 times in a row, which is stupid beyond all belief. 2 Archers with double hitspells and 40ssi, spamming runningshot at this point can take down almost anything in the game. Even in pvm, a single runningshotter can take down a Rikktor champion spawn SOLO in about 10 minutes. Moral of the story : In order to maintain balance, if a weapon is superior to another in one catagory, it SHOULD be lesser in another catagory. In the case of archery it is not. Let us compare the War Hammer to the Crossbow. WarHammer : 17-18 3.75s, Crossbow : 18-22, 4.5s.... Right off the bat, what do we notice? Balance. The crossbow does more damage, and therefore is slower. Two of the oldest weapons in game, and there is a harmony of balance. What do we have next however? The crossbow is given a boost in swing speed by 10% with ash enhancing, diminishing some of the balance but it is still slow enough to wear its not a big deal. The war hammer gets nothing. The bow can now be balanced. An entirely new and previously unimaginable style of archer is born, the chugger. The war hammer again, gets nothing. At this point if you were to have the once mighty warhammer do battle with this crossbow, it would be a one-sided fight. The crossbow would outdamage, and outswing the hammer [with the use of agility pots], and if the hammer got lucky with a few hits, the crossbow can still chug heals. Now this is all fine and well, but then I start thinking about the hitspells, and the very fact that archery is ranged weapons. Now your looking at two more huge advantages, an archer gets a secondary hitspell for even MORE damage on every shot, AND the very fact that they are ranged is a massive advantage, he doesnt even need to let the war hammer swing near him in the entire fight. Ever since the birth of uo, the tradeoff has been range for chugging and damage for speed , this kept balance between bows and melee weapons. And to this day, the war hammer is bound by the parameters of normal weapons, effectively removing them from any usefulness they once had, an outdated underpowered weapon they will remain, never to be used outside of roleplay again until somebody sees the light. By the way, mortal needs a slightly longer cooldown, every other shot being able to mortal, without even seeing the effects from the first leave before being hit with another, is totally ****. I know I am kindof jumping around a bit, but at the very least I would like to see hitspells taken away from runningshots, if they are going to cost 3 mana they should not get +20 damage from lightning/fireball and velocity, plus a disrupt from fireball.
So what you're saying is that because they aren't a problem for you, no problem exists? That'll be great news for the terminally ill, as I'm not.I play a
Necro Spellweave
Parry Mage
Parry Necro
Bushy Necro
Bushy Mage
Inscribe Necro Mage
And rarely play an Archer.. I have no problem with Archers in 1v1..
Yes they are annoying in a Group, but what isnt?
Can you please define DESTROY me?
I do play a pure scribe mage, and I kill most no matter their template. I do agree with what you said for the most part however. The weapons for archery and runningshots are still overpowered however.The whole "This template is easier to play" holds no water at all.. Dexxers in general have always been much easier to play than casters.
And.. its always been the case of changing a template to counter another.. Back when super dragons were extremely powerful on Stealth Ninjas.. I was running a tracking detector, Then Nerve Strike Deathstrike was countered by a Parry Template..
Now its either Parry, Some kind of spellweave, Confidence Based, Myst.. The list goes on..
As an example.. a Pure Mage cant kill anyone.. because this template is outdated..
Times change.. Templates become powerful and you need to change your own to counter them.. Welcome to Any MMO that has PvP
Uo has been this way for a long time now..
This is the part I don't get for pvp. Haven't got it for years. Tried to but just can't understand. If you are able to kill most templates you meet no matter there template won't that mean youre pure scribe mage is over powered? So how can a weapons for archery and running shot overpowered if you can kill most of them. Then If you can't kill that template but can kill every other one wont' that make everyother template other than that one underpowered. And if this is so won't every one of those templates consider every one they get killed by overpowered? And if the archer gets killed would he think he is underpowered or the other person is cheating?And if he consider himself overpowered then wouldn't that mean he can devestate every single player and template out there without battling a sweat which means there unbeatable?But if this is true for a ttemplate thats underpowered does this mean that the template is really overpowered or the skill of this player is beyond comprehension. Would other people consider him as a cheat or skilled?
The only thing i disagree with on Weapons.. is double hit spell.. and even then you must sacrifice something to have it.
It was very clear what you meant by "destroyed."
Perhaps you don't realize that I have +50 skill on the template.I like the Aegis instead of Faction Glasses and that Tali..
As well as having inscribe and not taking advantage of the Free Resists that Dual buffs gives ya.
Great, so can you post how exactly you on your Parry Mage, kill an Archer 1v1?By handle i mean kill..
That 50 is in resist correct? Which is pointless consdiering.. Trap Box, Cure Pots, and 85 is mana vamp immunity, and 30 damage Painspikes arnt the end of the world.
Cast a few spells.. Do a few Disarms, Para Punch a little..
You two could always make characters on test and see how it plays out?
Oh good God...I didn't know how poor of a PvPer I was dealing with, but you have just painted a pretty clear picture.That 50 is in resist correct? Which is pointless consdiering.. Trap Box, Cure Pots, and 85 is mana vamp immunity, and 30 damage Painspikes arnt the end of the world.
Cast a few spells.. Do a few Disarms, Para Punch a little..
Obviously i cant break down how im going to kill someone because Combos arnt 100%.
Ever try throwing down a Few para fields and fighting around em?
Yes, I have. Not very effective when they can just not go in them, or trap box.Cast a few spells.. Do a few Disarms, Para Punch a little..
Obviously i cant break down how im going to kill someone because Combos arnt 100%.
Ever try throwing down a Few para fields and fighting around em?
Actually the parafields will.. Slow down their attacks due to being paralyzed (Even for a Split second) and Add extra damage by making them kill themselves with their own trap box.
I think everyone realizes you're a joke at this point.85 Isnt complete immunity however with enough Med/Focus/MR/LMC real PvPers can make due no problem..
The fact that you need resist speaks volumes about you.
I wasnt aware that i needed to impress anyone.. As i said, Resist isnt a Crucial skill its merely nice to have to avoid little "Annoyances"
If they are dying because they dont have resist they are terrible..
Also.. Since according to half of the posters here 90% of PvPers are running archers.. And not mages.. This is even more of a reason to Not run resist.
You're claiming trap box damage is helpful yet pain spike damage is trivial.So 30 Damage painspikes are deadly on a 150+ HP character?
1 Field 5 Tiles of Paralyze
Trap Box damage is helpful when its a field that can be casted once and lasts a nice bit of time..
I didn't say you're aiming for it. They don't need to trap they are ranged. What do you think they're doing while you're setting up fields?1 Field 5 Tiles of Paralyze
5 Fields 25 Tiles of Paralzye
Your not aiming for 7 Damage.. your aiming at making them trap over and over and over.
Not when they don't need to walk through it it isn't.Trap Box damage is helpful when its a field that can be casted once and lasts a nice bit of time..
I'm curious, what shard do you play?If they are dying because they dont have resist they are terrible..
Also.. Since according to half of the posters here 90% of PvPers are running archers.. And not mages.. This is even more of a reason to Not run resist.
Go ahead and explain why resist is an Absolute Must and i will explain why its not.. Again.
You'll never agree with me and I'll never agree with you.. I wouldnt fight around Para fields, This whole topic however is about How Archers are Unbeatable and Impossible to Survive aginst, Ive given many examples on how to do Both, Para field happens to fit into both categories.
Waiting for the timer to run off because you disarmed them before you went to set up a few fields.
How do you feel about fighting me on an archer vs template of your choice?Siege Perilous and Atlantic.
If its a Duel in a Box.. I'd want resist.. If its on the field resist is useless..
No you didn't. You said you can't list specific combos and everything you said about fields and disarming and stun is ineffective. Or defensive action which kills no one.Ive given many examples on how to do Both
