Petra (and others) already made several good points in other threads about the benefits. I see it as the people with less money to buy SS/accounts have a more even playing field.What are those benefits?
I know several people who's reason for not playing Siege is that they don't want to be restricted to one character type. It's part of the reason I still actively play 2 shards, it's the reason Terry didn't start a character here until we had more than one account between us.
Almost all the people who object to two slots don't have this restriction anyway, they all have multiple accounts.
Just this once I'm going to actually say what I think instead of keeping quiet as I normally do.
I think that blows massive holes in your arguments against it. Just listen to yourselves? 'No you can't have another character, you must limit your play to one template, but I can afford more accounts so I've got 5 choices.'
How would you feel about the idea if only one account was allowed, if everyone could only have one character on the shard, period? Which character would you restrict yourself to playing?
I agree, I think allowing a house on Siege and one on another shard would assist more in getting people over, although I think it would have to be regulated so that we just don't get a ton of people who try it once and then leave, but don't demolish the house.I think that housing is the driving force behind multiple accounts across all of UO, not characters. On Siege, getting another character may be the driving force for some but I still think that is probably the minority, especially after soulstones became so easy to obtain.
-Skylark
There's no need to get all snippy. I offered my guild as an example, not gospel. I guess you missed the part where I said some buy accounts too? In any case, take a look at the number of characters we have guilded to TnT/Myth. Although KoC likes to claim we have 400 members on each night, we don't have anywhere NEAR the number of players that UO.com shows. Not even close. I expect the same probably holds true for GIL and KoC.I agree, I think allowing a house on Siege and one on another shard would assist more in getting people over, although I think it would have to be regulated so that we just don't get a ton of people who try it once and then leave, but don't demolish the house.
Maybe have some sort of timer that checks for x amount of hours per week played and after 2/3/4 consecutive weeks of not playing x, the house goes into decay.
Also agree with Vortex, since soulstones are here, it would be nice to have another char to x-fer with.
@Kat - Just because you're entire guild doesn't do it, doesn't necessarily make it true for the entire shard. And I might want a second account, I might not *WANT* to afford it. I can justify the $13 monthly fee, but I can't justify $26.00 doesn't mean I'm strapped for the cash, it means I'd rather not pay for a second character. And can you tell me trammy's have multiple accounts before they come to Siege? I can see maybe two, but more than that? Really? Are there that many templates? BoD runners, maybe...?
qft.if they said there was a way to move a char from one acct to another then i might consider it...
by the way, your poll is biased.
I couldn't care less that this is siege, I still say no tho...
You should have had: yes, no, don't care.
Rather, as it is now you are inserting your own agenda into the results.
lrn2survey.
There's also no need to get all judgmental on people who choose to afford only 1 account and offer them your financial advice. When I came to Siege when it first started 8+ years ago I was a full fledged Trammy and only had 1 account. *shrugs* It grew to at one point about 5 accounts and then has gone up & down since then.There's no need to get all snippy. I offered my guild as an example, not gospel. I guess you missed the part where I said some buy accounts too? In any case, take a look at the number of characters we have guilded to TnT/Myth. Although KoC likes to claim we have 400 members on each night, we don't have anywhere NEAR the number of players that UO.com shows. Not even close. I expect the same probably holds true for GIL and KoC.
And yes, "Trammy's" can and many do have multiple accounts before coming to Siege. I was a full fledged "Trammy" when I got here 3+ years ago. I had 3 accounts, which has grown to 5, 2 of which are sometimes inactive. I have never had a BoD runner, on Siege or otherwise.
Edit: And I think having 2 char slots will help bring people here because someone who just has 1 account may want to play a PK & a Bluebie or what-ever combination, crafter & farmer, but may not be interested in owning a second account to do so when they have 7(?) now choices to do so on a home shard and have that option for multiple play options.As a guild leader, I can tell you that most players have multiple accounts long before they ever think about playing Siege.
Even though I agree with you Hera, be very careful, your debating kat, and you know who is watching, the thread might abruptly stop....be careful, the rules apply to you and I remember that just for FYI cause you seem like a logical normal stand up person.....As a guild leader most people in MY guild showed up with multiple accounts in hand. Instead of :
I'd be all for that, but I bet they'd never do it based on the fact they'd lose the revenue from those accounts. [Unless the account was sold off].qft.
And your other post later down too. I have 6 active accounts because I have six characters I run. I have no desire to rebuild those characters again so that I can reduce my current accounts. As such, I have no need for more character slots. If I can transfer characters from one account to another, then I'm all for it, but otherwise I give a big
I do have 5 accounts. I don't think a second char slot would make me close down any of them, mainly because it would mean I would have to take down one or two of my houses.if that were the case then i would have everything on one account, instead of five. since it's not like that, i spent the time/money on more than one account. gaining another char slot will mean i either ignore the new slots and keep my old chars, or i make remake some chars in the new slots close a few accounts. i really don't want to start making new chars.
*smiles* What are you suggesting Fudd?Even though I agree with you Hera, be very careful, your debating kat, and you know who is watching, the thread might abruptly stop....be careful, the rules apply to you and I remember that just for FYI cause you seem like a logical normal stand up person.....
I'm sorry, I never intended to make fun of his survey. My intent was completely focused around showing that his survey is biased and has leading responses and that he should learn to create fair and unbiased surveys. If you felt that my indicating his survey is biased is the same as making fun of him than I apologize to you too for that.Dunno, maybe he meant that when someone tells someone to lrn2survey and you *chuckle* like an idiot, then in the very next post you say debate the topic not the people? If Goron wants a better survey could he himself not lrn2survey rather than be negative and make fun of someone else's attempt?
I'm glad you and Ru are in the same boat because it's sinking.qft.if they said there was a way to move a char from one acct to another then i might consider it...
And your other post later down too. I have 6 active accounts because I have six characters I run. I have no desire to rebuild those characters again so that I can reduce my current accounts. As such, I have no need for more character slots. If I can transfer characters from one account to another, then I'm all for it, but otherwise I give a big
Seriously BlacK RaiN,Seriously.
Seriously BlacK RaiN,Seriously.
If the developers thought that players of Siege Perilous need more than one
character per account then they <devs> will make Siege Perilous the same
as the other shards and give Siege Perilous five or six slots!
Why just two characters, why not five or six?
Now that will not hurt the Community of Siege Perilous either!
*stares*
Yahaxithonix
?I'm glad you and Ru are in the same boat because it's sinking.
The developers may look at it this: I give you your 2nd character slot by givingWhy just two?
Because we already go after what this would offer us with soul stones and multiple accounts which in and of itself limits to the number of characters we play... and I'm not saying forgo limits, but we should adjust them so they fall in line with the best interests of our shard.
After all there was a reason to limiting the number of characters on this shard. It does promote a sense of community. I'm looking at this objectively... and having one character slot has more short-comings to it than having two character slots... going above that number though... I can't say the same would apply... so I can't support it.
Look. I get that you have an opinion... and that's cool because you should have voted in the poll.?I'm glad you and Ru are in the same boat because it's sinking.
gross misuse of that phrase buddy. How is our situation (having an opinion) being changed under our feet (boat sinking)? Whether we get 2 char slots or not our boat will still be sailing along just fine...
but hey, I guess its hard for you to admit some people may have different opinions than your own so you think EVERYONE must have the same opinion as you... that's makes your personality a... 2? on Maslow's scale. Don't worry, most people eventually mature to higher levels, be patient.
but hey, at least look on the bright side, when we have 2 character slots you can say "haha" to me... ... I wouldn't hold my breath though.
Not necessarily, by voting No your poll implies that I voted so 'because this is siege'. That's not why I say No. I say no because I am lazy and multiple chars per account will decrease UO's subscription numbers which will decrease the resources devoted to the game.... I say NO to increasing chars per account on produ shards too... it ha snothign to do with siege.Look. I get that you have an opinion... and that's cool because you should have voted in the poll.
Not true at all. I do lose something, I am now paying for 3x the number of accounts I need. I now have the potential to have all 6 of my characters in only three accounts, so i will essentially be over paying by default. And since I have no desire to rebuild my characters and consolidate into 3 accounts I will remain in a lose situation.What you're missing, is that your opinion is self destructive.
If we actually got a 2nd character slot, you would still have the characters/stuff you have right now... you lose nothing. You just are given the opportunity to get and/or have... more.
3 things and then I'm done banging my head against a brick wall.Not necessarily, by voting No your poll implies that I voted so 'because this is siege'. That's not why I say No. I say no because I am lazy and multiple chars per account will decrease UO's subscription numbers which will decrease the resources devoted to the game.... I say NO to increasing chars per account on produ shards too... it ha snothign to do with siege.Look. I get that you have an opinion... and that's cool because you should have voted in the poll.
Not true at all. I do lose something, I am now paying for 3x the number of accounts I need. I now have the potential to have all 6 of my characters in only three accounts, so i will essentially be over paying by default. And since I have no desire to rebuild my characters and consolidate into 3 accounts I will remain in a lose situation.What you're missing, is that your opinion is self destructive.
If we actually got a 2nd character slot, you would still have the characters/stuff you have right now... you lose nothing. You just are given the opportunity to get and/or have... more.
As for the people that are willing to rebuild characters and consolidate accounts, that just makes them more likely to shut down the old accounts and save money- that will ultimately decrease subscriptions for UO which will lead to a decrease in funding to improve the game...
So, let me make sure I understand this. Because YOU have 5 accounts and YOU don't want to make new chars on a second slot you are voting NO to a second slot? That is just selfish. Not everyone has 5 accounts. Not everyone wants/is able to pay for more than one account. Think of the whole shard, please.i'm just saying, i have 5 accounts, if they could combine some of them, i would say yes to a 2nd char slot. i really don't want to have to make new chars. i'd rather have them transfer my chars/items(not my house, just put them into decay so i have a few days to move everything i want) to my other accounts, then i could cancel a couple accounts.
i'd even be willing to spend a lil money if thats what it took for them to offer the option of a char transfer if they give us the 2nd char slot