Which Client and Why?

[Peregrinus]

KR since it was opened to the public. I sometimes run into lag, but I like the graphics a lot more than the 2d. I wish they'd made a client that was capable of rotating the camera views. It doesn't make since to me to have two 2d clients, just with different graphics, but since that's the options I'll choose the 2d client with better graphics which is KR.

 

[Guest]

Wander in KR and minor fighting.


Player my merchant and vend it 2d. Mechanting is terrible in KR. Vending the same.

 

[Prudentis]

I voted KR only
I _have_ 2D installed but only for the things, that are still bugged in KR.
I see KR as the next logical, and pretty successful step for UO.
The client isn't as good as some singleplayer iso games, but it comes close and with all remaining bugs fixed, it can let UO live for another 10 years.
(but then we'll need real 3d at last

)

 

[imported_S!ckLoveR]

I don't consider myself a UO player. I log when my girl does to help her and show her around the world and that will stop once she's good to play on her own. If it wasn't for her I wouldn't touch this game until most cheats are stopped.

But when I do play I use KR exclusively. Both of us do.

Paperdoll/Character art have improved a lot(YAY! for the G.Beetle, now resize the damned unarmoured Swampies' wings!!). And you've got the body types and faces and all which is okayish I guess -still no faces for the new body types but whatever!

For some reason since last week it does run a LOT faster than 2D for both our systems.

Then there's the macro system(just because I refuse to re-make my Tamer's or Necro/Mage's macros though).

And lastly it makes it very easy to put together suits for any purpose with the Properties tab.

 

[imported_WildStar]

2D only. I can not run KR on my computer, but I can download the patches. *grins*

WildStar

 

[Asmodai/Embryo]

2d, the original and the best. why anyone would bother with KR i dont know. If i wanted to play something because of graphics i'd have gone for wow a long time ago. Drop KR and make the proper game the best it can be imo!

 

[Theo_GL]

I use 2d exclusively.

I tried KR a few times but I think it is a Wii version of UO. The mounts are too big, the graphics look like I'm wearing the wrong prescription glasses and its too cartoony to use.

You know how the old movies show a stationary car with a moving background that is so obvious its silly? KR feels like that. The mounts don't 'move' right so it looks like my char is running in space with a scrolling background.

I really do like all the improvements to the client we have been pancakes about for years like non-moving spell icons, better backpacks etc.

However with the goofy looking graphics and changes to so much art that I can't find my way around my house and obvious bugs (like my backpack showing up blank so I can't even find a rune book to go to the bank) I gave up after a few weeks of trying.

I just wish they would have kept 2d graphics and added the client enhancements - not written all new graphics that look like junk.

I'm sorry, but KR is just not pretty.

I can't seem to tell what is going on half the time.

 

[Lazarus Cain]

you are absolutely correct!
i played uo for yrs b4 i ever even bothered to create a login name for the boards (couldnt resist responding to the guy crying about how he couldnt place a house when trammel came out) hehe
i placed 5 houses b4 i got 1 to 'stick' due to server reverts and i almost quit over it

you ppl have no clue what uo used to be like unless you were there in the old days
if you did you all wouldnt cry so much over next to nothing
you would be thankful that the game runs so well comparitively
btw, when i say 'you' i mean it in a general sense only
my comments are not directed at anyone specifically

most ppl that play uo dont go to the boards at all, much less write anything on them
so, unfortunately, a poll here will in NO WAY represent a majority of the player base
you would do better putting a poll 'in-game'
then you might get an accurate reading of who does and doesnt play which client or who does or doesnt like whichever client

thx

 

[DrDolittle]

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Have you checked since Janaury's HUGE animation fix patch?

[/ QUOTE ]I checked last night right before I posted and my leg still sticks through my nightmare. So, if there was a change, I don’t see it.

 

[DrDolittle]

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Of course they haven't. It's pretty clear at this point that there are players who just WILL NOT switch to KR, no matter how good anyone else thinks it is. They don't play KR but come and list all the things that were wrong with it in the 8 minutes they had it running ANYTIME anyone asks or does some ridiculous poll about what client everyone is playing.

[/ QUOTE ]It is an attitude like that which alienates people who would run KR if certain problems were addressed. I went as far as spending money on new hardware to get decent performance out of the KR client so I could give it a fair shake. Did you do the same?

I specifically checked that the problem I mentioned in my post still existed right before I posted. Did you bother to check to see if the problem I noted still existed before you posted your accusation? And, quite frankly, I don’t give a rat’s behind how good you, or anyone else, thinks the KR client is. I’m the one who is going to have to play it; my expectations were simple and reasonable yet EA has yet to achieve them.

KR has problems, has had a lot of problems, and the biggest problem is that it was “released” long before it should have seen the light of day. You never get a second chance to make a first impression and EA shot themselves in the foot - or maybe the head - with that premature release. It was buggy, totally disregarded the UI preferences of existing players, gutted many long standing fundamental attributes of the virtual world and, for a graphics upgrade, the graphics were not good at all.

Now EA is faced with an uphill battle winning hearts and minds of the players. Flaming people when they point out a bug that has not been addressed after at least nine months is probably not going to do much to further your cause.

 

[Lady Lava]

2D girl all the way. If KR were ever made perfect ( or almost perfect) I might think about a change but highly unlikely. There is something comforting that objects that I have been looking at in the realm for over seven years still look the same.

 

[pallas]

rtlfc

2D.

I _want_ to play an updated, more graphically pleasing game that makes my gaming experience more immersive...

... but KR is not that update. It's a big ol' mess, from the graphics to the UI. Everyone involved should be ashamed at the way it was done from its conception to its.. *giggle*... release.

Saphireena had a post a while back about how she would have 'high res'ed' the 2d client and it was amazing. That would have gotten my vote. Even 'Titans Quest' style graphics. KR is ugly, buggy and basically unfinished.

For those who are still asking about 'Patchurdays', please get your heads out of the sand. It ain't happening. KR isn't going to get the polish it _desperately_ needs... I can assure you even the current dev team knows what a misfire KR is.

 

[imported_SavageSP]

2D, add a map to KR that has player tracking(like auto-map) and id probably switch, or at least try it.

 

[pacific lily]

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Of course they haven't. It's pretty clear at this point that there are players who just WILL NOT switch to KR, no matter how good anyone else thinks it is. They don't play KR but come and list all the things that were wrong with it in the 8 minutes they had it running ANYTIME anyone asks or does some ridiculous poll about what client everyone is playing.

[/ QUOTE ]It is an attitude like that which alienates people who would run KR if certain problems were addressed. I went as far as spending money on new hardware to get decent performance out of the KR client so I could give it a fair shake. Did you do the same?



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No, I didn't need to. KR runs fine on the computer I have. If I wasn't talking to you, I wasn't talking to you. The truth is, and I think you know this, that many of the people who complain never gave it a fair chance. Like the kind you'd give a game you just paid $50 for and couldn't return... THAT kind of fair chance. If you did, good for you. I'm truly sorry it didn't meet your expectations.

Lily

 

[Nexus]

I use KR for crafting due to the revamped features of the crafting menu and it rocks for heartwood quests....other than that I still prefer 2D as it's easier to judge distances between sprites.

 

[Guest]

2D only. KR will not work on my computer. Wow runs very, very smoothly though. I really don't like the look/portion-size of a lot of the stuff in KR personally from what I've seen in screenshots.

 

[imported_gawin]

2D only and It will be 2D if I ever turn it back on.

I played UO because of the game play its self. NOT for some fancy interface or GFX. If I want a fancy new fangled game I have literally 100 to chose from. UO is just what it is suppose to be Ultima Online! not some WoW clone or LOTRO it is Ultima. The lands in UO are UO. The way they look the way the monsters look the isometric view and the 99 GFX that IS UO. all of that is what MAKES UO UO.

That is precisely what makes UO different from the 100 other games out there.

 

[Guest]

2d only. Days of patching KR only to have it error out isn't worth my time. The few times it DID patch it was still multiple days and when I logged in it took over five minutes for everything to load and I couldn't move. KR is not dialup friendly, but I can't get it to run high speed, either. Plus it's ugly and not true 3d.

 

[Guest]

2D Only, &amp; a good chance til the plug is pulled. After 8 yrs of doing things a certain way I am not about to relearn how to play it in KR mode. (yes I have tried KR numerous times, each times ending in frustration of not being able to do the simplest of things I have done automatically for 8 yrs. It's not worth it &amp; the Grafix's are atrocious to me)

 

[imported_Eleanor Rigby]

KR won't run properly on my system and it takes forever to move around. My guildmates were running rings around me.

I liked the crafting, but it was a nuisance to reset my macros going back to 2D each time I tried KR, so I've quit using KR altogether.

Besides I prefer my little 2D beetle

 

[luners]

2D only.
If KR is improved, I will use KR.
But I think that the chances are slim.
Because devs don't know even what is wrong.
See the recently Arch Cure change idea.
That is the proof that devs don't know what to do and what not to do.
SA without full 2D support will kill this Kingdom.

 

[_Uriah Heep_]

the biggest problem is that it was “released” long before it should have seen the light of day. You never get a second chance to make a first impression and EA shot themselves in the foot
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QFT!!

 

[Fayled Dhreams]

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the biggest problem is that it was “released” long before it should have seen the light of day. You never get a second chance to make a first impression and EA shot themselves in the foot
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QFT!!

[/ QUOTE ]

.... which IS "Kinda tradition" ... For UO ... ... yes? no?
No? there "was" a "flawless launch"?

 

[luners]

I am intersted in how devs think about this result.
At one time, Jeremy said that they didn't intend to release SA with full support of 2D.
Haven't it changed yet?

 

[Guest]

While I'm not playing right now, when I did, it was 2D. KR just looks and handles like crap.

 

[Guest]

Using 2D only.

I used to use the 3D client exclusively, but since that went away, I've grudgingly learned to deal with 2D. I'd love to try KR but my old hunk o' junk computer won't run it.

We'll see what happens if/when I manage to buy a newer machine.

 

[BajaElladan]

Hail Folks,

I have so far only ever used the 2D legacy client. I occassionally used the now gone 3D to "find" some things in pouches I couldn't find using 2D only.

I have seen screenies of KR and saw the Town Hall presentation when it came to Columbus, OH.

Even though my new PC is on the way...I doubt I will download or use KR unless one day forced to so do.

I like and am used to the 2D client. Since it aint broke, why mess with it?

Elladan of Baja

 

[imported_blesh]

2d.

It doesn't suck.

 

[Nine Dark Moons]

<font color="#DC143C">2D ~ while SOME of the graphics in KR look enticing (moving water, lighting) MOST of them look really awful to me. I love how my house looks in 2D. I'm kind of afraid to see what it looks like in KR. Also, the perspective change in KR weirds me out. If they were going to change the perspective, I wish they'd changed it so we were at ground level and could actually see the sky and the moons and the stars at night... I might try KR at some point, but I'm waiting (and waiting...) until they work the kinks out and finalize it. </font>

 

[utilitron]

I really wonder how long ago some people tried KR, Its much different then when it was first released...

Let alone the fact that many things can be customized/upgraded... there are some really awesome custom features for KR through the UI

 

[pallas]

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I really wonder how long ago some people tried KR, Its much different then when it was first released...

Let alone the fact that many things can be customized/upgraded... there are some really awesome custom features for KR through the UI

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Last week, it still leaves a lot to be desired.

As a side note: you post like they are still upgrading it, when it hasn't had anything of substance in MONTHS.

 

[BadManiac]

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I really wonder how long ago some people tried KR, Its much different then when it was first released...

[/ QUOTE ]Came back to UO six weeks ago after a few months away, tried it then, nothing I dislike in KR has been fixed, not a single one of my hundred bug reports since KR open beta have been fixed yet...
Some people say KR has a long way to go, I'd call that an optimistic understatement. Call me when there are brown drakes and a complete legacy/2D option, and nothing is blurry.

 

[Guest]

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Let alone the fact that many things can be customized/upgraded... there are some really awesome custom features for KR through the UI

[/ QUOTE ]
That may well be true, but 65% of the polled players it would seem think that the old 2d client is the better of the two, all things considered.

15% exclusively using KR after this length of time. Do you it met EA's expectations? It certainly didnt meet mine or a lot of other players. The potential was there but in the grand scheme of things its another botched job by EA.

 

[Guest]

2D.

It's what I am eight-years used to and it also simply runs far far better on my craputer than KR does.

I do have minor CPU &amp; GPU enhancements in the mail (nothing stellar) and am anxious to fire up KR on the better hardware.

 

[imported_Rocky_Balboa]

KR Only, Runs great on my 5 year old Box. Would quit if I had to go back to 2D ...

 

[Guest]

LBR era 3D or nothing.


BTW I finally got my houses packed up and will be canceling this month. It took forever to pack my houses because both 2D and KR suck for going thru containers. (in KR I can't even see half my containers because the circle of transparency doesn't go full circle)

I suppose this is as close to a 'farewell post' as I will come.