Warning! Compassion dye!

[HD2300]

Baa Baaa. Its great. I love it. Baa Baaa.

 

[Sevin0oo0]

I will say again, if showing disappointment based on the expectation built up with their screenshot character in full dyed suit is greedy then yes I am so #%@*&* greedy.

not greedy, gullible. like the people that got ocean front property in magincia, Arizona.

maybe it dyes everything you have on when you dbl click it?

 

[Shelleybean]

I'm going to go out on a limb and say that maybe the one charge thing was unintentional. Rarely do the devs implement something and limit it to one per account per shard. I'm thinking with that limitation in place, they probably intended to give the dyes more charges but forgot to or that it got switched with another item listed in the spoiler thread. Either way, I will accept the dye of course with thanks. Having one charge does limit it's functionality, so I guess I will store it until one day I can find a use for it.

 

[phantus]

lol
Not by much. They could've at least let us dye one suit.
I'm not ungrateful. I am disappointed.
It's a game. We all pay our monthly fees for it to be updated. To say "they didn't have to give us anything" is kinda inaccurate. This game should be updated far more regularly than it is. We don't even get expansions anymore.
Least they could have done was given us 5 charges on some non-renewable resource.

This.

 

[Fresley]

Maybe to encourage xshard sales? ;P

To OP, thanks for heads up.

Yep. Go trade. It's fun.

 

[GalenKnighthawke]

There is, indeed, undeniably too much "gimme gimme" and plain-old greed and not enough gratitude in this game.

However, complaining about the single-use dyes is not a good example of this particular phenomenon. Such complaints actually make a lot of sense to me and are surely not unjust complaints and are totally understandable. I felt slightly stung when I saw they were single-use. 10 uses I'd been prepared for; single-use didn't even occur to me. (The single use, some have speculated, might be a bug....I sure hope so and I talk about that briefly later in this post.)

Especially so if they end up selling greater use dyes on the UO site as some have speculated. And especially given the stated intent of the dyes. What follows is an actual quote from the announcement:

In earnest appreciation for your continuous support through the last few weeks we would like to offer a gift of compassion to all our players.

I doubt anyone saw that and could possibly anticipate a single-use.

If intended, more on that in a moment, then the single-use dye is actually an example of another strange phenomenon in UO, quite different from greed and "gimme gimme." Said phenomenon is "step up, step back."

However, someone floated the notion that the single-use was a bug and, I have to say, I thought that too, and I'd surely want it to be true. In fact, after the sting, the first thing I thought was "that doesn't seem right. I bet that's a bug."

A mere 10 uses, followed by selling them for 50 uses on the UO site, would have been much better all around. Better in terms of gratitude and "Compassion," better in terms of utility (enough to do a whole suit of armor and a weapon or two) and surely better advertising for the paid version of the product.

-Galen's player

 

[MazJ]

It doesn't mention anything on UO Guide about the dyes only being 1 charge either :/

 

[Charin]

No its one per account.. and only one charge lol hmmmmm for as big a screw up as this was.. and as many people as they angered lol a little... lame no?

 

[NBG]

I will say again, if showing disappointment based on the expectation built up with their screenshot character in full dyed suit is greedy then yes I am so #%@*&* greedy.

not greedy, gullible. like the people that got ocean front property in magincia, Arizona.

maybe it dyes everything you have on when you dbl click it?

Now you are just making up reasons to **** me off, why are you trolling me

Please learn to quote properly and not include the whole quite chain.

 

[phantus]

Baa Baaa. Its great. I love it. Baa Baaa.

Yesssssh....thanks....for...the....thing.....

 

[soulstoner]

like - omg

 

[Merion]

lets be fair they had no obligation to give us anything at all, the fact they are giving us 1 per shard also means lots of nice swapping and player interaction!

lets be grateful we got something

This!

 

[Gunga_Din]

This!

Not This.

 

[yars]

we get new dyes but.......

they were right, they do work like the TOT dyes,
cause they dont dye conjurer robes muhahahahahahahahaha!!!!!

 

[Sellingahouse]

They sent me this email when they billed me twice.
"Last week an event occurred that resulted in you being double billed. Rest assured you will be refunded fully, and in addition for any inconvenience caused please accept this 5 use Forged Metal Tool. Simply redeem this code in game . . "

As would, I think, many of the people who laid awake at night wondering what was going to happen next when all of a sudden they were seeing double billings for their subscriptions, increased charges because of previously ignored or erroneously applied taxes, bank overdraft charges, and negative credit history reports. I also think the people who had to take hours away from work or other responsibilities to make phone calls or do online chats to figure out what was going on with their accounts would also prefer something more meaningful.
."

 

[Lilyth of RK]

I thought for sure they would be multiple use dyes.

I guess after grabbing my ankles for EA/Mythic so many years, all the blood rushed to my head....

 

[Sevin0oo0]

Now you are just making up reasons to **** me off, why are you trolling me
Please learn to quote properly and not include the whole quite chain.

sorry, I'm actually on your side. 'their' picture shows not only a full clothing set, Plus more dyed, giving the illusion it'd be more than 1 use (i figured it'd be Way more than that as well).

I also showed the herald post to a geeky (i.t. manager) person, albeit non mmog player, then explained about armor & (multi-use) dyes which they easily understood. They called the gift Worthless.

 

[Elden of Baja]

Absolutely Worthless. They should of done one per character per shard, or done more charges.

 

[nynyve]

Are the dyes truly random?

I seem to be getting an awful lot of red phoenix dye for a random selection. Is anyone else encountering this problem?

Given what we went through with the account migration, multiple uses would have been nice. Enough to dye 1 set of armor would have been great. It is not as if these dyes are going to unbalance game play.

And before someone says "they didn't have to give you anything" I disagree. The account migration was hell, the booster packs were terrible, and the implication on the booster packs was that this content would be free.

This is not a free to play game. As a subscriber, I feel that I am paying for new content. I also feel that they should fix existing content. I will buy a High Seas Booster when the bugs are fixed, not before.

 

[Larisa]

Re: Are the dyes truly random?

I got 6 Lavender, 2 Slate Blue, 3 Hunter Green and 3 Phoenix Red.

Have yet to receive one on Oceanis.

So I'd say it was random.

 

[Snakeman]

The 1-use dyes remind me of the half-hearted apology your kids or grandkids sometimes make when you demand that they apologize for smacking a sibling.

I hate to sound ungrateful, but I would have much preferred to receive a well-written letter from an EA executive acknowledging there were problems with the account migration and promising to (1) learn from the mistakes, (2) make sure they don't continue to happen, and (3) do a much better job in the future communicating with customers early and often regarding important changes in service and/or systems.

For all intents and purposes and as Promathia brought up elsewhere, this "gift" seems to be nothing more than a sample bottle that EA will use to coax us into spending more money later when they put these dye colors up for sale at the game code store. Or perhaps it is someone on the dev team's thinly disguised attempt at irritating even more players into quitting. If it is the latter, it's probably going to be pretty darn successful because many players who struggled through the account migration process are just looking for one last reason to give up and walk away. This slap in the face will be the straw that breaks the backs of many camels.

EA really should have had someone use the time that was spent programming this patch/publish instead writing and getting approval to publish a sincere letter of apology.

*Bingo* Exactly, this is all EA had to do. It sure would of ment a lot more to many of us. It's what I have to do when an employee of mine screws up on an account. The 1 chg dye was a total joke & insult to all that have had severe migration problems, minor pacification at best to. Just correct all the dbl billing mistakes, recredit CC's & to people who have not been able to log in give them some sort of game credit. But a 1 chg dye, lol, gimme a break we are not 6 yr old kids. Ya make a huge mistake like what was done here, you admit your mistake, take corrective actions & fix the situation. Not toss a piece of candy to make you forget about it...

 

[Rupert Avery]

I have 2 active accounts and this is what i got per shard so far

Europa - Red,green
Drachs - Slate,lavender
Legends - Slate Slate
Atlantic - green,Red
Lake sup - Red, slate
Great lakes - Green, Green
Chesse - Lavender, Red
Cats - Lavender, Green
Origin - Red, Slate
Pacific - Red, Lavender
Sonoma - Green, Lavender
Lake Austin - Slate , Lavender
Baja - Green
Napa - Red, Green

 

[twoburntfouryou]

Absolutely Worthless. They should of done one per character per shard, or done more charges.

Agree

 

[Melchior1]

are you freakin serious?!?!?!?!

This is like one of the worst let downs I have seen in UO history. Everyone, can I deeply apologize for whoever is in charge of determining what you all deserve after having to endure what you've been thru? 1 charge? That's right ladies and gents, you are worth 1 charge. You pain-stakenly endured account migration, patches deleting your beloved items, and Britania ships disappearing forever with the hard earned cash that you spent for them at UOgamecodes. If no one will apologize then I will. Yeah we could have had 50 charges on those dyes and everyone would have been ecstatic. But that I'm afraid is going a lil bit too far. And what could we possibly do with all those nice 50 charge pigments? Probably nothing useful. There are people demanding for congress to step down after serving shorter terms. I will continue to play this game because of the community and friends I have made, but God forbid there is ever another Town Hall again. Paying players, it's time for you to start asking questions. The UO majority is not happy. There's like your maybe 10% who are either brainwashed or don't care. I have enuff gold to sustain and buy as many dyes as I want, but why can't people who aren't as successful in UO business enjoy these as well? Something has to give. If you agree, say aye!

 

[MalagAste]

Re: are you freakin serious?!?!?!?!

Oh trust me I agree...

And I'm as disgusted as you and many, many others.

I'm absolutely sure the DEV's are 100% clueless about the players... I feel slapped in the face...

And there is only one thing I can do about it.

Pull my accounts.

close them..

or rant on these forums about how totally ridiculous and sad I think this "gift" is.

 

[harryo]

There is, indeed, undeniably too much "gimme gimme" and plain-old greed and not enough gratitude in this game.

However, complaining about the single-use dyes is not a good example of this particular phenomenon. Such complaints actually make a lot of sense to me and are surely not unjust complaints and are totally understandable. I felt slightly stung when I saw they were single-use. 10 uses I'd been prepared for; single-use didn't even occur to me. (The single use, some have speculated, might be a bug....I sure hope so and I talk about that briefly later in this post.)

Especially so if they end up selling greater use dyes on the UO site as some have speculated. And especially given the stated intent of the dyes. What follows is an actual quote from the announcement:



I doubt anyone saw that and could possibly anticipate a single-use.

If intended, more on that in a moment, then the single-use dye is actually an example of another strange phenomenon in UO, quite different from greed and "gimme gimme." Said phenomenon is "step up, step back."

However, someone floated the notion that the single-use was a bug and, I have to say, I thought that too, and I'd surely want it to be true. In fact, after the sting, the first thing I thought was "that doesn't seem right. I bet that's a bug."

A mere 10 uses, followed by selling them for 50 uses on the UO site, would have been much better all around. Better in terms of gratitude and "Compassion," better in terms of utility (enough to do a whole suit of armor and a weapon or two) and surely better advertising for the paid version of the product.

-Galen's player

Well said. Articulate, thoughtful, and right on the money!

 

[RavenWinterHawk]

Re: are you freakin serious?!?!?!?!

First off, Im not even put off by whatever everyone thinks has been a great injustice. Its a game. They are migrating accounts. Big woop.


Second off, I don't really think they oh us anything.

Third off, if people are upset by colors and quantity, close your account. You lost something in translation.

Fourth off, its a dye charge. Use it on something cool. They could have given us a dyed robe. It is now a rare. The 1 dye should be coveted as precious and it will soon sell for 1 million a charge. Or they could give us 50 charges and everyone would complain how common it is and should be in the Spring turn in.

Fifth off, I just watched the tribute to the 43 KHL hockey players that died in a plane crash. You should be thankful you can complain about a dye charge.

Argh. People. Random exploration and adventuring please. Get us of the dang gift merry-go-round.

 

[Korik Bloodguard]

1 Use dye??
Really?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
What's the point?

One nice point was selling them to cash man on Cats for 1.5 mil each, which adds up if you've done x-server trading.

 

[popps]

You get the dye on the first character you log in with.

I am not sure I understand the warning......

OK, I get the dye on the first character I log in with, so what ??

If I want another character to use it I just need to transfer it from character A to character B. Big deal.........

I do not understand the warning.........

 

[Green Mouser]

Since discussions on this topic is being deemed useless by one of the empowered........

In before the lock!!

Wishing it was more than one charge, a color I could choose or available by more than one char per shard.

I am pleased I only got scammed twice out of 23 times.

 

[Zosimus]

There is, indeed, undeniably too much "gimme gimme" and plain-old greed and not enough gratitude in this game.

However, complaining about the single-use dyes is not a good example of this particular phenomenon. Such complaints actually make a lot of sense to me and are surely not unjust complaints and are totally understandable. I felt slightly stung when I saw they were single-use. 10 uses I'd been prepared for; single-use didn't even occur to me. (The single use, some have speculated, might be a bug....I sure hope so and I talk about that briefly later in this post.)

Especially so if they end up selling greater use dyes on the UO site as some have speculated. And especially given the stated intent of the dyes. What follows is an actual quote from the announcement:



I doubt anyone saw that and could possibly anticipate a single-use.

If intended, more on that in a moment, then the single-use dye is actually an example of another strange phenomenon in UO, quite different from greed and "gimme gimme." Said phenomenon is "step up, step back."

However, someone floated the notion that the single-use was a bug and, I have to say, I thought that too, and I'd surely want it to be true. In fact, after the sting, the first thing I thought was "that doesn't seem right. I bet that's a bug."

A mere 10 uses, followed by selling them for 50 uses on the UO site, would have been much better all around. Better in terms of gratitude and "Compassion," better in terms of utility (enough to do a whole suit of armor and a weapon or two) and surely better advertising for the paid version of the product.

-Galen's player

@Galen If this was a bug they would of announced it by now.

I have noticed the ones that have mutiple and Im talking large # of accounts are not complaining.

This is what UO has become. Pixel addiction at it's finest.

Sandbox game my arse lol. This is about gimmie gimmie gimmie. How many more times does the cat have to poop in the sandbox before it's not a sandbox anymore?

The account migration had noithing to do with UO dev team. That was EA. The UO dev team didnt have do anything but they did and people are ungrateful. If you have an issue with the account migration then you have to take your argument to EA. The UO dev team had nothing to do with it.

Players wonder why there are players leaving for other games. Not that hard to figure out.

 

[elianydd]

Thats the problem around here , no matter what they do its never good enough.

No good deed goes unpunished.

As others have said, I'd've loved to have gotten more than one use, but I will take my one use (whatever color it ends up being; I can't wait 'til I get home to see!) and make the most of it, and enjoy it.

 

[Kayne]

No good deed - Wicked @ Elianydd

Typical I got Lavender on all 3 shards that I had eligible characters on

 

[harryo]

No good deed goes unpunished.

As others have said, I'd've loved to have gotten more than one use, but I will take my one use (whatever color it ends up being; I can't wait 'til I get home to see!) and make the most of it, and enjoy it.

As a recent member of this forum, but a long time player, I would like add my voice. I began playing UO on my son's acct in "97. I "thank" him for my addiction! I have thoroughly enjoyed playing this game, and while at times, life's events have drawn me away, I kept my account active in hopes of one day rejoining. This happened in May of this year. Lots of changes and lots of catching up to do.

I remember the "dial up" days and the interminable lag associated with it. I remember "reds" recalling into the orc fort at Cove and slaughtering me and many others and having my silver katana of power looted in Despise. I remember developing my first char while not straying too far from a guard zone, being constantly alert for others who wanted to kill me and loot my corpse.

I remember logging in at the inn (no house) and running to Minoc bank to join many others there looking for adventure or just wanting to chat. I remember recalling to Brit bank and hardly being able to move as there were so many PC's there the lag was tremendous. I remember the screen being full of dialogue as people talked with each other planning adventures or random explorations. I remember those days and I am sure many of you do also.

I suffered few issues in the account migration as I only have the 1 auto-billed account, but it seems that many others did. I respect their right to "sound off" in this forum, and I also respect the right of the "pooh-poohers" telling them to "get a life", "it's only a game", "just close your account if you are unhappy",or "Big Woop". Everyone has a right to be heard.

However, I must take issue with Frarc's assessment of what the real problem is around here. The "real problem" around here is WHERE IS EVERYBODY! No one is ever at Minoc bank (GL shard). Hardly anyone at Brit bank. Luna bank has the usual bank sitters and Golem trainers but little else. No screen dialogue at all. I can play for hours and rarely see another PC. I can recall into dungeons and I am the only one there. It seems to me that a LOT of paying account holders have quit the game. There must be reason(s) for this. I cannot help to think that the recent account migration FUBAR caused others to cancel and the single use "Compassion" dyes are probably going to just further tick off account holders who are already ticked off.

I don't want to speak for everyone, but I certainly would like to continue playing UO and that will no longer be possible if enough dissatisfied account holders continue to leave the game, whether you perceive their complaints as just or not. We all lose.

I just wanted to add my thoughts as to what the real problems seem to be.

 

[Shqiptar]

Fifth off, I just watched the tribute to the 43 KHL hockey players that died in a plane crash. You should be thankful you can complain about a dye charge.

Really bro? I disagreed with your post but it was your opinion... but now you feel you can tell us we shouldn't be upset because "well you didn't die in a random plane crash."

Absolutely ridiculous, I hope you have NEVER complained about ANYTHING in your life. Compared to that child laborer in Africa or the woman who was kidnapped to be a sex slave your life has been peaches and cream. Maybe I should compare you to some diamond mine workers in Africa. How about the little girl who died a slow painful death from cancer? I sincerely hope you have never complained about anything.

 

[Charin]

Actually your only partially correct the higher ups in Stratcis and the normal yesmen are the only ones not complaining. Considering I had to do without my main account and my alt accounts while my wife got to play.. even though they charged me 2 times for the same 3 accounts... I am still waiting on escilation on my ticket.....While time is ticking on my accounts... and yes I finally got my main account back and am getting to play but for over 2 weeks I didnt. So yes they owe me and us... at least some game time codes to the 2 weeks they charged me for and used up...... and yes I checked they used it up....

 

[harryo]

Really bro? I disagreed with your post but it was your opinion... but now you feel you can tell us we shouldn't be upset because "well you didn't die in a random plane crash."

Absolutely ridiculous, I hope you have NEVER complained about ANYTHING in your life. Compared to that child laborer in Africa or the women who was kidnapped to be a sex slave your life has been peaches and cream. Maybe I should compare you to some diamond mine workers in Africa. How about the little girl who died a slow painful death from cancer? I sincerely hope you have never complained about anything.

That was a ridiculous analogy as no clear thinking rational person would ever equate the two. If you will look under his name I think you will find a more than adequate explanation.

 

[Dermott of LS]

...

I like the dye colors, but 1 charge AND one per acct/shard make them "too awesome to use".

I was looking forward to getting a suit of Hunter Green for one character and Slate Blue for the other, but it looks like that will be limited to those who can spend 10s if not 100s of millions via Luna traders.

So... half point given on execution.

 

[Kiminality]

Honestly, I'm thinking that all these analogies need to take out a restraining order against both of you...

 

[Ender]

So it seems general chat will have to be turned off on all my characters for a week.

Thanks devs.

 

[kelmo]

Get back on topic or this one is closed too... Knock off the nonsense. This is a game.

 

[Dermott of LS]

...

Meh, I didn't even read through all of the analogies of how I am A Bad Person™ because I'm a bit bummed that the dyes are only 1 charge... and well, general chat is usually a bunch of PvP e-peen waving anyway, you won't miss it.

 

[Ender]

It's generally (hehe see what I did there) fine on GL except for certain times of day.

Now it's just a cluster**** of trade spamming.

I asked people to use the trade channel and was told to stfu.

 

[Dermott of LS]

...

I put up one trade ad on the correct forum, but that's probably about as far as I'm gonna go since there's no way outside of a ridiculous fortune I'm going to be able to get enough of any color dye to get a set of clothes/armor colored.

Love the colors, appreciate the gesture, bummed about how overly rare it's been made though.

 

[HD2300]

They will be available soon on uogametime codes. Baa Baa

 

[Salivern_Diago]

I love how this rumour that they'll be available on the website soon has grown. I've watched it spread further and further...

Speculation breeds discontent when expectation fails upon delivery.

 

[MalagAste]

Get back on topic or this one is closed too... Knock off the nonsense. This is a game.

Nonsense??????

The feelings of 100's of players feeling as if they just got a huge lump of coal for their years of loyal service and having to put up with all the instability and crazy taxing and other losses of gametime and in-game goods time and effort wasted on reverts and such things is NONSENSE???

Well it may be Nonsense to you but to those of us who feel we've just been given the a slap in the face or quite honestly feel that the DEV's think sooo very little of the player base as to give us a gift that is more like receiving a 30yr old fruitcake when you were expecting Red Velvet with cream cheese frosting..... to be a massive well... Let down... and disappointment... I would have liked to at least be given enough dye in a bottle to actually dye my entire suit... Quite frankly Kelmo I guess I shouldn't be surprised that you would say such a thing... after all you play on a shard where you have one character..... and ONE chance for anything even if it wasn't just one per shard you'd still get ONLY one....

But it's the one charge, zero choice... random chance one per account/per shard that has so many of us just plain disappointed and well... dumbfounded.

I'm sorry but one charge one item not even a color I would use anyway sort of "Gift" isn't much of a gift... Like finding out you have a dead uncle and you are in his will and he gave you a house..... then realizing he left you a Money Pit.


So if I sound ungreatful..... it's because well.... I'd have rather not had to endure the BS with the account stuff..... I'd have rather not had spent all morning fishing and doing quests just to have the shard reverted later.... if I had known it was going to do that I would have spent my morning watching netflix.... Not wasting time playing UO to have all my work poof... And ...... for those who had their characters disappear..... or have STILL not been able to access accounts.... I'm thinking one dye with one charge and zero choice of color isn't what they had in mind as a "gift" either...

But yes I remember the "good" ole days when reverts were normal ...... when they happened regularly..... But I also remember being given a soulstone fragment to compensate me for being left without being able to log in for ages..... I remember being given a Shirt with a special saying for when they reverted just GL's once.... Because of vanishing items in Luna...

I suppose I shouldn't be surprised or upset by the gift...... I should have expected as much... I just thought more of the DEV's then that.... and was thinking that they might actually give us something really nice for a change..... but I guess I'm wrong and I should have known better than to expect more of them.

 

[Dermott of LS]

...

Possible solution to the dye problem?

Make 'em a Cleanup reward choice at a decently high price? Even at 1 charge at 20k(ish) points, they would still retain a bit of the rare regality the colors have and be at least somewhat available (at the cost of other rewards of course).

Just a thought.

 

[Viper09]

Thats the problem around here , no matter what they do its never good enough.

The story of UO players, or at least the ones on stratics, lol.

 

[Kiminality]

The feelings of 100's of players feeling as if they just got a huge lump of coal for their years of loyal service and having to put up with all the instability and crazy taxing and other losses of gametime and in-game goods time and effort wasted on reverts and such things is NONSENSE???

I can't be sure, but I'm pretty sure that's not the "nonsense" that's being referred to.
For the identity of said nonsense, you should look for the nonsensical parts.