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[UO Herald] Publish 72 Comes to Test Center

Bazer

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just releaized something when i clicked the "more" link at the top it leads me to a page that says
"You are not authorized to access this page."
 

Elffin

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AOS clothes give 6500 points
mini house deeds 6500
snowy scene globes 8000
lol, i have probably 2million points right there...

Somebody mentioned you didn't get any points for Heritage tokens, Last time i just got the virtue item from the heritage token and turned it in for 10k points.

All in all i am glad i never throw away anything, i may be able to clean out my castles faster than i thought :)

Elf.
 

G.v.P

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I could dance.
It's enough that the caves'll be clear of blackrock by... well, they probably already are... Yet it's small enough that I don't feel bad for ditching my stash.
Thanks, both.

In fact, here's a symbolic dancing broccoli.
:danceb:
I hate that dancing broccoli...
Problem I have with the brocolli is that it's really just a banana in disguise.

10 pts per blackrock is almost not worth it, but I guess it's better than less than 1 point, heh.
 

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So Johnny scripter will spend the entire cleanup time crafting/trashin items to get hundreds of item bless deeds..... DOh!?
even if the crafted items are low points, scripters will still run multi scripting accounts doin it, Maybe give the crafted items an eventual diminished return or a limit per day or something.

That is why I always said that scripting screws up good design. Something which in theory is a good design for the game gets screwed because there is scripting in the game......

I'd rather have scripting be STOPPED as a possible activity in the game instead of having good design always have to be hurt by the presence of scripting in the game.

I think the Developers should really put the fight against scripting as their #1 priority. I think that scripting should really be stopped in UO for good.
 

popps

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Other Virtue System tweaks:
The total virtue point cap has been increased so that it is easier to maintain Knight rank.
All virtues now decay at the same rate as the current rate for Valor. (This is a significant decrease in decay rate for most virtues.)
Skills that had their decay rate reduced now spend virtue when you use them.

Does this mean all my tamers are going to need to work their honor up on a regular basis? As it is this virtue does not decay....

I sincerely hope that they left Honor out of the equation.
It is already enough a pain to raise Honor for a tamer that having to keep up with decay would make it a nightmare, IMHO.
 

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I just wanted to point something out, people in this thread keep equating points to gp, as in the Item Bless Deed is 50k points, it should cost more than 50k gp. In fact, I think you get 1 point per 100 gp turned in, so the direct gold conversion value would be 100:1. An Item Bless Deed, if you straight up turned in gold for it, would be 5m gold.

I know that there will be ways to get points more cheaply than turning in gold, but the people screaming about turn in values need to realize that points do not equal gp.


The item bless deed, with 50,000 points will cost 5 millions per deed when using gold to gather points.

Considering that a full set has 6 armor slots, + weapon, + apron, + cloak, + footware, + 2 jewellery for a total of 12 items, that makes it 60 millions cost to bless deed everything in a suit and forget about insurance.

How many deaths to recover a 60 millions gp investment and turn it into a saving ?

My point is, is it really worth it ??
 

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Some early notes:

The guy in New Magincia is not reachable
The sheep look ugly and out of place
An item bless deed for 2 1/2 alacrity scrolls?
 

TheChocolits

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Not sure if I got it right, the clean up is just one phase right? not like the past ones that come in diff phases? and any idea on how long the clean up would last?
 

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wow are u sure????? thats amazing point values...guess there is none left in any vendor on any shard now...lol
Wow if so, You need 6.25 globes then for an item bless deed. :eek:

EDIT:

And yes it seems one direction of stone walls has lost it's detail!

 

AxiamInc

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Wow if so, You need 6.25 globes then for an item bless deed. :eek:

EDIT:

And yes it seems one direction of stone walls has lost it's detail!

Didn't you hear that this publish was getting a new graphics overhaul?

It's just the beginning of the new 'enhanced' graphics. :D
 

Pinco

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Didn't you hear that this publish was getting a new graphics overhaul?

It's just the beginning of the new 'enhanced' graphics. :D
the great new ms paint graphics is in place then :D
the new artists are 2-3 years old, the lead artist is 5, so that's just the beginning :lol:
 

MalagAste

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Interesting.

I like the new sheep. Sheared it looks pretty cool.

But I only play in the EC.... not sure why they changed the silly little sheep in 2d...

I love most all the additions but once again I'm denied my missing Snow Globe. *sighs* Still no snow globe for Despise... For years this poor Anti-Virtue Dungeon has gone unrecognized... There has never been a snow globe for it for some odd reason... Though more likely it's been a constant oversight on the part of the DEV team. Give us Despise... and allow me to "complete" my collection... Please.

Also I agree about the Mannequins .. I'd like to be able to see stats too. I'd also like to be able to dye them. They are awesome though.



And if you don't hear it anywhere else I want to Thank the DEV's 100X over for giving us the Tapestries... I've been wanting those for YEARS!
 

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It's amazing to see all these Socialistic point-of-views and yet most lives in a Capitalistic society. Everyone should get this, everyone should get that. I am not indicating getting rid of everything just add in a few that the rich can afford. If you don't expect Mercedes sell for 5 bucks or Rolex watches for that matter so why should you want everything in this game to be affordable by everyone?
 

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It's amazing to see all these Socialistic point-of-views and yet most lives in a Capitalistic society. Everyone should get this, everyone should get that. I am not indicating getting rid of everything just add in a few that the rich can afford. If you don't expect Mercedes sell for 5 bucks or Rolex watches for that matter so why should you want everything in this game to be affordable by everyone?
Because its just a game...there are alot of other things people who want to act rich can get..

Just look at event items and dread mares..
Let people have some fun...
 

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Because its just a game...there are alot of other things people who want to act rich can get..

Just look at event items and dread mares..
Let people have some fun...
That statement goes both ways i.e., because it is in fact just a game so why not do it. Having the big expensive items shouldn't bother those who can't obtain it as long as there are plenty of cheap items around. When the spring cleaning was first introduced everyone knew that the IBD can only go to a few people because it was at that time 500,000 points and 1 mil gold was worth 100 times to what it is now.

And to those people making comments about IBDs were duped to hell, yes thats true but its also true that they have been used to hell. Try to find one to purchase on a vendor these days, you can't! That's because there aren't that many left out in circulation.
 

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I love most all the additions but once again I'm denied my missing Snow Globe. *sighs* Still no snow globe for Despise... For years this poor Anti-Virtue Dungeon has gone unrecognized... There has never been a snow globe for it for some odd reason... Though more likely it's been a constant oversight on the part of the DEV team. Give us Despise... and allow me to "complete" my collection... Please.

Also I agree about the Mannequins .. I'd like to be able to see stats too. I'd also like to be able to dye them. They are awesome though.
THIS!!!!!

Once they do finally give it up, it should say "Made of 24k gold". I mean heck, they give us the Ter Mur one via quest and still no love for Despise. I think the name says it all :(

Unsure about the Mannequins right now tho. If the armor set you put on it does not go toward storage in the house then cool, will use them. If not then my suits gonna stay on vendors :D
 

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As far as the deeds, the originals were used up long long ago.

To combat dupes, they can either make the items accessible to all or else intentionally delete the items as a whole. I for one don't mind seeing them come around at a fair rate for all; it sure beats the alternative.

I honestly would not feel sorry for anyone currently sitting on a stack of these. Am kind of surprised scaffolding and two story statues didn't make it to the list.

:stir:
 

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I never really cared for the Blessed stuff anyway. CBD's, Item Bless, or anything else you wear that is blessed. Insurance is good enough, and when you click on corpse you auto dress. Until they allow the dress macro from 3d in 2d I will just stick with insurance.
 

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I honestly would not feel sorry for anyone currently sitting on a stack of these. Am kind of surprised scaffolding and two story statues didn't make it to the list.

:stir:
the new veteran rewards still unknown, maybe we will see this items? :p
 

Saul_Siege

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Oh wow. I'm poor on Atlantic. If I had 20+ of those mini house deeds would that make me wealthy? :)
 

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...........Man, the devs give the players what they want.........cleaning time, and when I randomly stop somewhere in this thread, what do I see?

Someone's BP&Ming about item bless deeds.......Do I sense a bunch of ungrateful babies or what? Ruin Fel?? Be serious, Fel a joke to begin with.....then we see whining about how few points it would take to get one.....why not? Why should it favor the long term hoarders and not give some younger players a stab at getting one or two?

Not everyone plays UO in the same fashion.....some have lives, some are normal people where a computer game doesn't absorb their every moment.

I for one have a ton of garbage, will I go for all I can get? hell yeah....I've paid my monthly fee for many a year.......just stop the crying people, heck, most of you are grown adults.:heart:
 

Shiznit Bo'Bourbon

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This is where rewarding everyone for hoarding garbage frees up server space by... teaching everyone to hoard as much garbage as possible... right?
 

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...........Man, the devs give the players what they want.........cleaning time, and when I randomly stop somewhere in this thread, what do I see?

Someone's BP&Ming about item bless deeds.......Do I sense a bunch of ungrateful babies or what? Ruin Fel?? Be serious, Fel a joke to begin with.....then we see whining about how few points it would take to get one.....why not? Why should it favor the long term hoarders and not give some younger players a stab at getting one or two?

Not everyone plays UO in the same fashion.....some have lives, some are normal people where a computer game doesn't absorb their every moment.

I for one have a ton of garbage, will I go for all I can get? hell yeah....I've paid my monthly fee for many a year.......just stop the crying people, heck, most of you are grown adults.:heart:
Very simple, long term players paid more subscription fees over time. Of course they derserve more. Besides this system is perfectly fair because it gives everyone one option to obtain it, i.e. buying points with gold.
 
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Very simple, long term players paid more subscription fees over time. Of course they derserve more. Besides this system is perfectly fair because it gives everyone one option to obtain it, i.e. buying points with gold.
Haha, what a crock! Long term players deserve more?? New players should be rewarded for sticking around as this game is hard to get started!
 

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Very simple, long term players paid more subscription fees over time. Of course they derserve more. Besides this system is perfectly fair because it gives everyone one option to obtain it, i.e. buying points with gold.
I'm a long term player and I still can't afford one. :(
 

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Haha, what a crock! Long term players deserve more?? New players should be rewarded for sticking around as this game is hard to get started!
That ignorant comment pretty much tells me your naivety to this game. It's not the new players that keep this game going it's the veterans.

New players are already rewarded to the hilt. When I first started I had a few hundred gp and few types of each reagents which is nothing compare to the new players nowadays. I was stuck on Jhelom islands for nearly two weeks killing rats and snakes before even visiting other cities.
 

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Very simple, long term players paid more subscription fees over time. Of course they derserve more. Besides this system is perfectly fair because it gives everyone one option to obtain it, i.e. buying points with gold.
Long term players are more likely to have accumulated the junk over time that can be traded in for more points. They'll be rewarded. This also doesn't consider the fact that if you were here for events in '08 and '09 you were (likely) able to obtain many desirable items (meaning ones you wouldn't trade in for clean-up points) that are not available to new players except via trade.
 
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So, you are telling me that the game isn't hard to get started? I admit, I have only been playing a couple of years, but without the help of the people that I already knew playing the game, I would have quit, it's not a new player friendly game.

As much as you like to think it, it's not just the Vets that keep this game going
 

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I want to say this to the DEV's ..... I checked out the Virtue Deed on Test center and I just wanted to give you one HUGE THANK YOU!

Thank you for doing the Deed justice... Thank you for allowing us to have ONE deed that we can put on and take off the wall and that we can change each and every time to choose the virtue WE desire to put up...

If you have 8 deeds you can rotate them ..... one week..... Compassion.... change all deeds to compassion..... next week ..... Justice. Or you can have one of each ..... and if you get tired of that..... swap them all to Sacrifice.....

100% GREAT job!

This is the way the old carpets from the Heritage tokens SHOULD have been done!

This is the way it should always be done.... Just like the old Banner Deeds....

Fantastic job!
 

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I want to say this to the DEV's ..... I checked out the Virtue Deed on Test center and I just wanted to give you one HUGE THANK YOU!
Agreed 100%. You get to pick which virtue you want to display every time you use it; you don't have to pick a facing direction (just target a spot near the wall and the facing is chosen for you) and you click on the banner to re-deed it. Well done indeed!
 

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So, you are telling me that the game isn't hard to get started? I admit, I have only been playing a couple of years, but without the help of the people that I already knew playing the game, I would have quit, it's not a new player friendly game.

As much as you like to think it, it's not just the Vets that keep this game going

Ignore him. He thinks he's important to this game because he collects pixelcrack. Anyone who pays the monthly fee is keeping the game alive. No matter how long they have paid. Those deciding about the future of UO do not care about vets or not. What matters is the monthly income. Some ppl dont seem to get that tho. You deserve as many chances to get an item bless dead as i have when they implemented the original cleanup britannia event.
 
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Ignore him. He thinks he's important to this game because he collects pixelcrack. Anyone who pays the monthly fee is keeping the game alive. No matter how long they have paid. Those deciding about the future of UO do not care about vets or not. What matters is the monthly income. Some ppl dont seem to get that tho. You deserve as many chances to get an item bless dead as i have when they implemented the original cleanup britannia event.
:thumbup:
 

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Ignore him. He thinks he's important to this game because he collects pixelcrack. Anyone who pays the monthly fee is keeping the game alive. No matter how long they have paid. Those deciding about the future of UO do not care about vets or not. What matters is the monthly income. Some ppl dont seem to get that tho. You deserve as many chances to get an item bless dead as i have when they implemented the original cleanup britannia event.
Did I say I was important? Obviously you think you are by making your comment. But then again, who the hell are you or me for that matter. You are right monthly subscriptions decides all but there are a lot more veterans that pays for multiple accounts than new players and if you think that doesn't matter guess you are not that wise as you try to be. "Everyone deserves an IBD" Why? What a pompous entitlement point-of-view.
 

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It is a good publish. More like this and much more often, and UO will grow like EVE.
 

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Do not make me get all Mod here... I am content building backyard toys.
 

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i like everything theyve added so far, except the new bard suit, but thats just me.
 

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That ignorant comment pretty much tells me your naivety to this game. It's not the new players that keep this game going it's the veterans.

New players are already rewarded to the hilt. When I first started I had a few hundred gp and few types of each reagents which is nothing compare to the new players nowadays. I was stuck on Jhelom islands for nearly two weeks killing rats and snakes before even visiting other cities.
unfortunately, it doesnt matter what you had to go through way back when. From a business point of view...you have to get new blood into this game to keep the revenue growing....you cannot rely that the existing base will always be around.

You have to attract, commit and keep new players....constantly. You are naive to think a static pool of players will always be there to pay the montly fees.

this "when i first started" or "the good ol' days" philosophy does not help a business grow and is irrelevant to it's future survival.
 

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unfortunately, it doesnt matter what you had to go through way back when. From a business point of view...you have to get new blood into this game to keep the revenue growing....you cannot rely that the existing base will always be around.

You have to attract, commit and keep new players....constantly. You are naive to think a static pool of players will always be there to pay the montly fees.

this "when i first started" or "the good ol' days" philosophy does not help a business grow and is irrelevant to it's future survival.
Oh I agree with you that both type of players are needed to keep it going but the whole point of this in the beginning was why couldn't they reflect the their most coveted item in the spring clean-up i.e. the IBD to the current gold market. 500k points now is not the same as 500k points then. And the other thing was add something really expensive for those who could afford it.
 

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Oh I agree with you that both type of players are needed to keep it going but the whole point of this in the beginning was why couldn't they reflect the their most coveted item in the spring clean-up i.e. the IBD to the current gold market. 500k points now is not the same as 500k points then. And the other thing was add something really expensive for those who could afford it.
very true about the value of gold....too much of it in the UO economy now....

and i dont disagee that really old stuff that is uber rare that someone has held onto for a long time could carry some extra value allowing that person to obtain something very rare....that would be unique to long time players, and that should be considered.
 
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Where are these 'lost items' to be found? I've run around a bit and haven't found anything just lying about..
 

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Where are these 'lost items' to be found? I've run around a bit and haven't found anything just lying about..

They are all over the land. You need to run around to find them.
Best is to use Ctrl-shift every few steps to see if there is a item on the ground in the forest or lands.
 
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Oh I agree with you that both type of players are needed to keep it going but the whole point of this in the beginning was why couldn't they reflect the their most coveted item in the spring clean-up i.e. the IBD to the current gold market. 500k points now is not the same as 500k points then. And the other thing was add something really expensive for those who could afford it.
very true about the value of gold....too much of it in the UO economy now....

and i dont disagee that really old stuff that is uber rare that someone has held onto for a long time could carry some extra value allowing that person to obtain something very rare....that would be unique to long time players, and that should be considered.
(current market on SIEGE = free ... *snort*)

meh!

"most coveted"? :talktothehand: please ... that "status" waxes and wanes upon popular opinion.
again: How Many IBD's >may be equiped< at One Time on any character on Siege?
*ahem*
Were IBDs >ever< widely available? as in: day of availability a newly created character >could< obtain one ...
aha!
wow ...
What makes any sieger THINK that Cleanup "IBD rewards" will
A) Be available on Siege
B) Be "stackable" on Siege?(more than one equiped at the same time)
C) Be able to (by account) HAVE more than one? ... :lol:

I can imagine a few that WASTE their points
( A) above) ... through a misunderstanding OF >the rules Of Siege<
a lesson hard learned is seldom forgotten
*shrugs*
B) & C) >may already< be answerable on Siege ... Siegers >in POSSESION of knowledge< are hereby called upon ... :lol: (Fayled Summons Siegers ... :lol: )
Bring a screen shot ...


yeah yeah ... the code might arrive "busted buggy and broken" Upon Siege ...

>YOU COULD< Petition the Devs to CLONE SIEGE to test shard ... ooooooo ... That'll be something to see ... :lol:

Shuffle boards and walker races ... *nudge* *nudge* *wink* *wink* Artifacts strewn about ... decaying ... :lol:

DEVS! make it so ... bring the old folks >into the light< ... EASE their Fears !! show some REAL Compassion !!

oops! likely to go live all shards the 5th ...

well ...

DEVS! make it so ... HURRY UP! :gee:
 
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Other Virtue System tweaks:
The total virtue point cap has been increased so that it is easier to maintain Knight rank.
All virtues now decay at the same rate as the current rate for Valor. (This is a significant decrease in decay rate for most virtues.)
Skills that had their decay rate reduced now spend virtue when you use them.

Does this mean all my tamers are going to need to work their honor up on a regular basis? As it is this virtue does not decay....
I love the decay change. I hate spending a few weeks off of UO and having to come back and work Sacrifice on all my chars again.

Big thumbs up on this!
 
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