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Something else to report. Thought it was just a one-time thing last night but it's just happened a couple of times now on Origin. You cast recall, pick a location out of the book and ... nothing happens. You don't lock up, there's no message, nothing. You just stand there. Cast it again and you go where you wanted to go. Maybe it's just a quirk with Origin, but I'm mentioning it just in case it's tied to changes to the runebooks. In all cases my character was not in a busy location...I think every time, the character was "alone."

Did you use mana?
 
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Beastmaster

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Do you know of a complete list of the song gears that are currently available (i.e., not including the new ones that are supposed to be part of this publish)?
I believe the notes said they were adding SA songs too.

I wish they had elaborated on the "the drop rate of gears". That's amazingly vague even for our Dev team.
 

Tina Small

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There's a complete list here;

http://www.uoguide.com/Dawn's_Music_Box

In my experience, "Ambrosia - Common" drops about twice as much as any other gear. In the 550 I collected, "Dungeon - Common" only dropped twice in total, and "Grizzle's Dungeon - Uncommon" only once. I got no Rares at all, despite killing somewhere between 300 - 400 Paragons (I kept the cocoa drops until I filled a chest with them all). "Wanderer - Rare" no longer drops at all, being part of a discontinued quest.

Not including a few I sold or gave away to others, my current sets of Gears are, from the total 40/12/4, as complete as follows;

40/12, 40/12 (sold this one), 40/11, 39/6, 39/4, 39/3, 39/3, 36/3, 33/0, 32/0, 27/0, 23/0, 19/0, 14/0, 13/0

As you can probably see from numbers, there's a certain amount of "streakiness", in particular, the 3 Uncommon gears, "Elf City", "Melisandes Lair", and "Good End Game (U9) are relatively more likely to drop than any other Uncommon. Whether that's a problem with the streaky UO random number generator or not, I don't know... but I bug reported everything I noticed as I thought I had a large enough sample size by now ;) Hopefully it'll be much easier to fill boxes soon... Also that they brought back the OLD Occlo music!
Thanks, Adol! I believe that the music you now hear while standing in Buc's Den and also in Trinsic since sometime last year (late summer perhaps?) is new. During the SA beta, Cal dropped some hints that made me think there could be quite a few more new songs actually in the game (i.e., not on gears at that point in time), but he wouldn't give us any good leads for discovering them. I guess to do that we need to run around more often with the music on and make note of what we notice that seems to be new.
 

G.v.P

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is broken because if you cast a spell will stop the effects. and this is the worst thing of all the system.
Hmmm. Did the designer say that you are supposed to be able to cast spells while a spellsong is in effect? I admit I have not read all the threads about the bardic spells, so I'm pretty confused at this point.
Pretty sure it's supposed to be like this. If a bard uses a spell ability, that's all the bard is supposed to be able to do during that time.
 

Pinco

UOEC Modder
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if bards cant cast other spells when the effect is active there are only bot around the game (I'm making one for example to support my main character)

however, the last hope for avoid bot was the post of logrus: http://vboards.stratics.com/showthread.php?t=210023

but hopes are illusions of a better world, real life has nothing to do with hopes :D
 

Hildebrand

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Here are screen shots of how Invisibility potions and greater confusion blast potions are being added as one by the Enhanced Client. It causes the macros to misfire and drink the wrong potion.
I doubt Publish 66 has fixed this bug since it hasn't been mentioned in the notes.


I've circled where my greater confusion blast is slotted. It should indicate 3 in that slot but is adding my two invis pots into the total.


 
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DarkScripture

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Holy Smokes,,, The mana use for the Bardic Masteries of Discordance make it just about useless. The Upkeep cost is WAY high.. Should be around 6-10 mana not 16-18
 

Tina Small

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I spent about 2 1/2 hours on Origin killing betrayers, blackthorn's juggernauts and golems (plus many controllers and enslaved gargoyles) to see if the drop rate for the music gears has changed and to see if any new gears would drop.

Here's the summary, followed by the raw information gathered as my tamer and her GD killed things. (I stuck it between "spoiler" formatting codes so you don't have to look at it if you don't want to.) The tamer has 680 luck and did not use the luck statue at all.

44 Betrayers killed (1 paragon)
79 Blackthorn's Juggernauts killed (5 paragons)
35 Golems killed (1 paragon)

7 Gears from Betrayers (all Common)
8 Gears from Blackthorn's Juggernauts (all Common)
1 Gear from Golems (Common)

3 "A Welcome" Books from Betrayers
1 Paragon Chest (a nice shiny black one from a Betrayer)
1 Minor Artifact (Night's Kiss, after killing the paragon betrayer)

golem 0
golem 0
betrayer (Tavern 3 (Common))
juggernaut 0
betrayer 0
juggernaut 0
juggernaut 0
juggernaut 0
juggernaut 0
golem 0
juggernaut 0
golem 0
golem 0
juggernaut 0
juggernaut 0
golem 0
juggernaut 0
betrayer 0 ("A Welcome" book)
betrayer para 0 (Paragon chest and Night's Kiss)
golem 0
juggernaut (Good vs. Evil (Common)
juggernaut 0
golem 0
juggernaut 0
juggernaut para 0
golem 0
betrayer 0
juggernaut 0
juggernaut 0
juggernaut 0
juggernaut 0
juggernaut 0
juggernaut 0
golem 0
juggernaut para 0
juggernaut 0
juggernaut para 0
golem 0
juggernaut (Tavern 3 (Common))
juggernaut 0
juggernaut 0
juggernaut 0
juggernaut 0
juggernaut 0
golem 0
betrayer 0
betrayer 0
golem 0
juggernaut 0
betrayer (Boat Travel (Common) and "A Welcome" book)
betrayer 0
juggernaut 0
juggernaut 0
juggernaut 0
juggernaut 0
juggernaut (Britain (Positive) (Common))
betrayer 0
juggenaut 0
juggernaut 0
betrayer (Skara Brae (Positive) (Common))
juggernaut 0
juggernaut 0
betrayer 0
betrayer (Lord British's Castle (Common))
juggernaut 0
juggernaut 0
betrayer 0
juggernaut 0
betrayer 0
betrayer 0
betrayer 0
betrayer 0
golem 0
betrayer 0
golem 0
golem 0
juggernaut 0
juggernaut 0
betrayer 0
golem 0
juggernaut 0
juggernaut 0
juggernaut 0
juggernaut 0
juggernaut 0
juggernaut 0
juggernaut 0
betrayer 0
betrayer (Tavern 1 (Common))
betrayer 0
golem 0
betrayer 0
golem 0
golem 0
betrayer 0
golem (Ambrosia (Common))
betrayer 0
betrayer 0
juggernaut (Yew (Positive) (Common))
betrayer 0
betrayer 0
betrayer 0
betrayer 0
betrayer 0
betrayer 0
golem 0
golem 0
golem 0
golem 0
betrayer (Walking (Common))
juggernaut para (Jhelom (Common))
juggernaut 0
betrayer 0
juggernaut 0
betrayer 0
golem 0
golem 0
betrayer 0
golem 0
juggernaut 0
betrayer 0
juggernaut 0
betrayer 0
juggernaut para (Tavern 1 (Common))
juggernaut 0
juggernaut 0
juggernaut 0
juggernaut 0
golem 0
golem 0
betrayer 0
betrayer (Lord British's Castle (Common))
golem para 0
juggernaut 0
betrayer 0
juggernaut 0
juggernaut 0
juggernaut 0
juggernaut 0
golem 0
betrayer 0
golem 0
juggernaut 0
juggernaut 0
juggernaut (Pub Tune (Common))
juggernaut 0
golem 0
juggernaut 0
juggernaut 0
juggernaut 0
juggernaut 0
juggernaut (Skara Brae (Positive) (Common))
juggernaut 0
juggernaut 0
juggernaut 0
juggernaut 0
golem 0
betrayer 0 ("A Welcome" Book)

Based on previous similar trips I've made with the same character, NOTHING seems to have changed with regard to the drop rate. However, I'll admit that with further testing, that may prove to be wrong. 158 kills from one day/one session is probably not a big enough test. It was also disappointing that all 16 gears were ones that already existed in the game.
 

Tina Small

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Something else to report. Thought it was just a one-time thing last night but it's just happened a couple of times now on Origin. You cast recall, pick a location out of the book and ... nothing happens. You don't lock up, there's no message, nothing. You just stand there. Cast it again and you go where you wanted to go. Maybe it's just a quirk with Origin, but I'm mentioning it just in case it's tied to changes to the runebooks. In all cases my character was not in a busy location...I think every time, the character was "alone."

Did you use mana?
Nope. Just sat there. I could see the words for the spell in the journal but the character didn't go anywhere and there was no fizzling and no message.
 

Tina Small

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Stratics Veteran
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Do you know of a complete list of the song gears that are currently available (i.e., not including the new ones that are supposed to be part of this publish)?
I believe the notes said they were adding SA songs too.

I wish they had elaborated on the "the drop rate of gears". That's amazingly vague even for our Dev team.
See my post above.........nothing seems to have changed.
 

Mapper

Crazed Zealot
Alumni
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Based on previous similar trips I've made with the same character, NOTHING seems to have changed with regard to the drop rate. However, I'll admit that with further testing, that may prove to be wrong. 158 kills from one day/one session is probably not a big enough test. It was also disappointing that all 16 gears were ones that already existed in the game.
I can see Aron crying from here. :( :p
 

G.v.P

Stratics Legend
Stratics Veteran
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Holy Smokes,,, The mana use for the Bardic Masteries of Discordance make it just about useless. The Upkeep cost is WAY high.. Should be around 6-10 mana not 16-18
If the damage was lower then it would be justified to allow people to be able to put on the LMC and MR to have it chain forever, otherwise, at 6-10 mana, it would be abused too heavily. Meanwhile, with the right mods, you can probably have the beneficial masteries last forever, especially in PvM situations.
 

Viquire

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*sighs looking at work that needs to be done*

Tina, for a gal that was thinking of hanging up her spurs I must tell you I have a Biggie Sized hug awaiting the next time we meet. :)

Thanks for sticking and persisting.
 

Tina Small

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Stratics Veteran
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Here are screen shots of how Invisibility potions and greater confusion blast potions are being added as one by the Enhanced Client. It causes the macros to misfire and drink the wrong potion.
I doubt Publish 66 has fixed this bug since it hasn't been mentioned in the notes.


I've circled where my greater confusion blast is slotted. It should indicate 3 in that slot but is adding my two invis pots into the total.


Hildebrand, I finally rounded up Invisibility and Greater Confusion potions on Origin. Unfortunately, it looks as if this bug is NOT fixed yet. I logged in with the Enhanced client and put the potion bottles in separate slots in a hot bar. However, after doing that, the bottles in both slots are labeled Greater Confusion (even though I've repeatedly dragged the Invisibility potions to one of the slots) and both slots show for quantity the combined total of Invisibility and Greater Confusion bottles in the character's backpack.
 
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DarkScripture

Guest
I have tested a +20 Mana regen suit in Lich form with a wisp and only got 1 extra tick from the mastery of discordances. The ticks are too fast & eating 16-18 per tick.
Also the targets did not seem to take any more damage if they were discorded 1st. My Bard is 120 x 4 all bardic skills real. @ 120 mana my bard was able to harm the swoop for a whole 120 damage.
 
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DarkScripture

Guest
Using Discordance breaks upkeep for Despair. Testing more now.
 
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DarkScripture

Guest
Despair is not hitting till the 2cd tick making it use 30 mana to start and another 18 on the next tick, Consuming 48 mana for the first round of damage.
 
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DarkScripture

Guest
Tribulation only does damage when something hit for physical damage to convert,, This should be melee/weapon damage as using a 100% elemental type weapon makes it fail to cause damage, I think this was coded to not fire on magic damage but oversight of the spilt damage weapons.
 

WarUltima

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I have tested a +20 Mana regen suit in Lich form with a wisp and only got 1 extra tick from the mastery of discordances. The ticks are too fast & eating 16-18 per tick.
Also the targets did not seem to take any more damage if they were discorded 1st. My Bard is 120 x 4 all bardic skills real. @ 120 mana my bard was able to harm the swoop for a whole 120 damage.
Without any lmc you can run 100 mana regen and it still won't help you enough...
 

Adol

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Based on previous similar trips I've made with the same character, NOTHING seems to have changed with regard to the drop rate. However, I'll admit that with further testing, that may prove to be wrong. 158 kills from one day/one session is probably not a big enough test. It was also disappointing that all 16 gears were ones that already existed in the game.
I can see Aron crying from here. :( :p
Hear me crying in person! I think, sadly, Tina may be right. I've just done one run through so far, but my figures are currently agreeing with hers. In 1 hour approximately, I killed;

4 Paragon Juggernaughts, 0 Gears
38 Normal Juggernaughts, 6 Common Gears (2 City Night, Death Tune, Dragons (High) Overlord, Victory)
4 Normal Golems, 0 Gears
6 Normal Betrayers, 1 Common Gear (Victory)

The only small surprise is Dragons (High) turning up, which tended to be one of the rarer common... but I could just be lucky on that. I plan to spend most of the evening grinding them, so we shall see! And if anyone wants sets on Europa, 10k per gear, I'll have about 1,000 by the end of the week :p
 
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