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TOS Agreement ...read it fast

Ruppy2

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So I kept timing out as I tried to read.... what is this about SONY???

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I asked that on Siege too, no one seemed bothered. I was curious too though.
 

Tyrath

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Is it just me not seeing it or is Electronic Arts not mentioned?
 

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If you go to EA's corporate site, Ultima Online: Stygian Abyss is still listed as a Game/Asset.

I believe is a copy/paste error, as throughout the rest of the ToS it is Broadsword. Or at least I hope so...

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Ruppy2

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I'm starting to wonder if I'm the only one that reads these things :dunce: I guess I will wave my right to not hold Sony responsible
 

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I'm not sure if I should :facepalm: or :wall:.

Regardless that's fairly :lame::coco:.

Seriously, who plagiarizes a ToS?
 

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If you go to EA's corporate site, Ultima Online: Stygian Abyss is still listed as a Game/Asset.

I believe is a copy/paste error, as throughout the rest of the ToS it is Broadsword. Or at least I hope so...

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Still possible for broad sword to be a Sony holding/Subsidiary. Some Clarification would be nice as I like to know who I am giving my money to :)
 

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Maybe everyone shouldn't jump the gun. Sony may be involved in some software or hardware or something else that simply hasn't be disclosed to us as of yet.
 

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Maybe everyone shouldn't jump the gun. Sony may be involved in some software or hardware or something else that simply hasn't be disclosed to us as of yet.
Why would EA allow Sony, a direct competitor, any sort of access or dominion over one of their IPs?
 

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Found this.

When you subscribe to the Sony Network (the PlayStation network
and Sony's music and video network; similar to Netflix I guess),
you are bound to arbitration.

The terms have a warning at the beginning:

Terms of Service

NOTE: THIS AGREEMENT CONTAINS A BINDING INDIVIDUAL ARBITRATION
AND CLASS ACTION WAIVER PROVISION IN SECTION 17 THAT AFFECTS
YOUR RIGHTS UNDER THIS AGREEMENT WITH RESPECT TO ANY "DISPUTE"
(AS DEFINED BELOW) BETWEEN YOU AND SNEI, SONY COMPUTER
ENTERTAINMENT INC., SONY COMPUTER ENTERTAINMENT AMERICA LLC,
THEIR AFFILIATES, PARENTS OR SUBSIDIARIES (COLLECTIVELY, "SONY
ENTITIES"). YOU HAVE A RIGHT TO OPT OUT OF THE BINDING
ARBITRATION AND CLASS ACTION WAIVER PROVISIONS AS DESCRIBED IN
SECTION 17.
Exactly the same.
 

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I noticed this new ToS yesterday after repeatedly being kicked out of the game, which was weird! I did briefly glance through it but I didn't see that Sony part, not sure what to make of it all. Not really a big fan of Sony after they said EQ2 wouldn't be free-to-play on all servers and then it was....
 

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I'm starting to wonder if I'm the only one that reads these things :dunce: I guess I will wave my right to not hold Sony responsible
Since it went away before it could all be read and I suspect logging in would qualify as acceptance of it, I'm done playing until they make *that* presented version available for reading without vanishing before it can all be read.
 

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hmmmm mandatory update leads to a different TOS that cant be read before you time out but prominently features an addition of SONY to the TOS. Either this is another in a long line of epic gaffs by this dev team or something is a foot???
 

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And true to form, there is neither a confirmation nor denial forthcoming...
 

Uvtha

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So I kept timing out as I tried to read.... what is this about SONY???

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It would be amazing if this were just a copy edit botch. Couldn't get much more bush league than that, heh.
 

Tyrath

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It would be amazing if this were just a copy edit botch. Couldn't get much more bush league than that, heh.
If it were just a copy error, I would think it would be corrected by now. Since I logged into a account this morning and got the same TOS, it would stand to reason that it is not a error. A error like that would be corrected rather quickly if for no other reason to keep the Masters at EA from slapping you down for promoting a competitor. And with the high level of disclosure and transparency we as customers get, we are typically left with making the most logical assumptions and guesses.
 

Uvtha

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If it were just a copy error, I would think it would be corrected by now. Since I logged into a account this morning and got the same TOS, it would stand to reason that it is not a error. A error like that would be corrected rather quickly if for no other reason to keep the Masters at EA from slapping you down for promoting a competitor. And with the high level of disclosure and transparency we as customers get, we are typically left with making the most logical assumptions and guesses.
Oh I didn't think it actually was, I was just saying how hilarious would that be? :p
 

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Late April fool's joke maybe? hehe :pie:
 

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If it's an oopsie I wouldn't read too much into it. With the exceptions of parties names most of a games tos is the same crap. Careless error, sure. Now if it wasn't an error that would make things very interesting.
 

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If it's an oopsie I wouldn't read too much into it. With the exceptions of parties names most of a games tos is the same crap. Careless error, sure. Now if it wasn't an error that would make things very interesting.
In a world of product branding that would be a big oopsie :)
 

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If it's an oopsie I wouldn't read too much into it. With the exceptions of parties names most of a games tos is the same crap. Careless error, sure. Now if it wasn't an error that would make things very interesting.
I doubt it would make things all that interesting honestly, at least not for UO players. :p
 

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I doubt it would make things all that interesting honestly, at least not for UO players. :p
I disagree. If a company Sony s size is purchasing something it's for a reason. Not to just let it flounder about.
 

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I disagree. If a company Sony s size is purchasing something it's for a reason. Not to just let it flounder about.
I mean, they don't make games, so the most that would come out of it is if someone wanted to make a new ultima game they would have to pay Sony for the rights.
 

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Yes and no. Yes ea would be irritated. No because let's face it, a majority of players simply don't read the TOS.
This has been a problem since I dunno when ... yet by entering the game a player is implicitly agreeing to all of the stipulated conditions of a EULA, RoC, ToS or any combo of them. THAT is what trips up some folks when they say "I didn't agree to that!" ... ummm, oh yes you did - by logging in.

I'm thinking that this was a cut/paste job from Sony EULA and someone missed references. But it would be nice to have official input on it.
 

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I disagree. If a company Sony s size is purchasing something it's for a reason. Not to just let it flounder about.
I'm not saying it is or isn't, but large companies have been known to buy smaller organizations just to shut them down shortly after as a tax write off.

I'm sure it was a Copy Pasta Edit error though, as Sony spun off SOE (Sony Online Entertainment) into Daybreak Games.
 

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  1. The Terms of Service that is now present in the log in process has been corrected and you will also be able to view a Japanese version of the Terms of Service.
  2. We have also fixed a crash reported by the players involving the Enhanced client and containers.

Posted to UO.COM....it will feed through here shortly...so stop the conspiracy theories, it's fixed! :)
 

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  1. The Terms of Service that is now present in the log in process has been corrected and you will also be able to view a Japanese version of the Terms of Service.
  2. We have also fixed a crash reported by the players involving the Enhanced client and containers.
Posted to UO.COM....it will feed through here shortly...so stop the conspiracy theories, it's fixed! :)
Just because they put the mask back on doesn't change that we saw the lizard person underneath.
 

Uvtha

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  1. The Terms of Service that is now present in the log in process has been corrected and you will also be able to view a Japanese version of the Terms of Service.
  2. We have also fixed a crash reported by the players involving the Enhanced client and containers.
Posted to UO.COM....it will feed through here shortly...so stop the conspiracy theories, it's fixed! :)
Wow, thats... really funny. Also a bit sad. :(
 

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  1. The Terms of Service that is now present in the log in process has been corrected and you will also be able to view a Japanese version of the Terms of Service.
  2. We have also fixed a crash reported by the players involving the Enhanced client and containers.
Posted to UO.COM....it will feed through here shortly...so stop the conspiracy theories, it's fixed! :)
oh frak! Take away all our fun. And kudos to @Aran for the "V" reference.
 
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