QFT
Seriously.
bright colors were used in the time frame this game is set on, were they not?
why is it such a sin?
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Tokuno Dyed Swampie Armor?
- Thread starter Hobo Sapien
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QFT
Seriously.
bright colors were used in the time frame this game is set on, were they not?
why is it such a sin?
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Calla Lily
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What's wrong with them being dyed? It's not a bug or an exploit. You can dye other enhanced items with Tokuno dyes, why not dragon barding armor? It's just armor, and it certainly doesn't hurt anyone or affect gameplay in any way. They're selling for 150k on Chessy. People are crazy to pay more than that. Why would it be illegal?
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Vre13
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Peo[ples dyeing not deeds... They dyeing pets. I have seen dyed swampies and dyed barding deed crafted by.... also. So this must be a gug, because anyone cant dye pets in UO...
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Calla Lily
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I haven't seen any dyed pets, only pets wearing dyed armor.
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Yalp
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Really.. after all.. who cares what color they are. I'd prefer our dev's most valuable time be spent making the game hack/cheat/script free and/or rooting out those among us who do...banning their sorry butts, giving their valuable stuff away and burning their houses down. Color on someone's swampie? Really? Arent there scripters out there you guys can go harrass?
**are they dying Proxy's Swamp Dragon or the Armor Barding deed for regular Swampies? If the former.. isn't that perfectly legal? If the later..really.. give it an hour.. the armor will be broken****
**are they dying Proxy's Swamp Dragon or the Armor Barding deed for regular Swampies? If the former.. isn't that perfectly legal? If the later..really.. give it an hour.. the armor will be broken****
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Anon McDougle
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All color shall be removed from the game untill a time when a panal of the uhall color police decrees which colors shall be acceptable and not further kill this beloved game
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Connor_Graham
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The Barding Deed is what is being dyed. Paroxy Swampy's can't be dyed.
I'll say it again, I'd rather the Dev's worked on something that actually affected gameplay instead of some minor color issue. So what if someone uses armor that's going to be broken in a few days, if not hours.
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Connor_Graham
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*raises hand to join the forces of the Color Police, blatanly hiding the fact that he's color blind*
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BakeryGnome
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hahahaha....it is the armor...i think it is cool! The new Slime colors are sweet one them!
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Fink
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If this uses up & wastes all the ghastly neons on consumable dragon barding I think it's a good thing, but I bet they'll be the poseur mounts that are only used for banksitting & never get scratched.
Some of the more subdued colours are nicer.. rum red > berserker red, nox green > dryad green, and so on.. and the slime colours are okay for the most part. I think most people who choose neon only focus on the few square inches of screen that their avatar/mount occupies and are blinkered to how bad they look in context. Either that or they really crave attention?
I'm somewhere in between. I don't like people wearing neon if it draws attention away from me. The first rule of couture is don't wear anything with more personality than you. I hate it when other people provide the distraction.
Some of the more subdued colours are nicer.. rum red > berserker red, nox green > dryad green, and so on.. and the slime colours are okay for the most part. I think most people who choose neon only focus on the few square inches of screen that their avatar/mount occupies and are blinkered to how bad they look in context. Either that or they really crave attention?
I'm somewhere in between. I don't like people wearing neon if it draws attention away from me. The first rule of couture is don't wear anything with more personality than you. I hate it when other people provide the distraction.
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Calla Lily
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I like the reds too, and the dark purple.
Well after some thought. I believe if someone wants a neon swampy go ahead. I mean after all they did introduce to the game, Neon Hair Dye, Tokuno Dyes, Bright colored animals, Fire Steed, Blaze Cu, Hyru's. After all the armor will break if its used. So that means a person is gonna have to set aside a stable spot for the bank sittin swampy. If they fix the bug.
There were several comments last night in our guild chat how the colors were distracting and "hurting the eyes". When you see former disrgruntled UO players an often complaint is about that "neon junk". I don't see them talking about the lack of character color customization.
It is funny how I mentioned a couple days ago that a lot of people on Stratics would like to see dyable pets and people rushed in claiming that was not true. Then this happens and it is all "oh this is wonderful we get to match our mount to our outfits!" I knew it.
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J0KING
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Even though I am not a huge fan of all of the bright colors... I don't see why this would be such a big issue that it needs to be removed from the game.
With all of the colors that are out there already... so what if somebody wants to ride around on a colored swampy... that is their preference and it doesnt effect anybody elses gameplay... their eyesight if they stare at it, but not the gameplay...
With all of the colors that are out there already... so what if somebody wants to ride around on a colored swampy... that is their preference and it doesnt effect anybody elses gameplay... their eyesight if they stare at it, but not the gameplay...
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Connor_Graham
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Then someone is either too close to their game screen or need to have their eyes checked.
I really wish I had taken a screenshot of the line up of neon swamp dragons in New Haven last night. When I went back realizing that I need it just for a conversation like this, they were gone. It was absolutely hideous.
An Addition to my last post. Crystal house tiles and Luna white trees, hedges and plants.
Character( customization of any sort) is very desirable and obviously makes Uo unique, the question you bring up with your statement is:
Are the color's in the standard set desirable to everyone?
Nope they are not.
Hell, look at the ruckus black caused when it became publicly available.
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Calla Lily
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I'd still like to see a ruling on this please 
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Connor_Graham
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That's a matter of perception. One obviously not shared by all. Why should any one person's personal perception of what is "hideous" and what isn't be held to be the one we should all have to adhere to? If you don't like it, don't look at it. There are plenty of other banks you can go to in order to access your bank box.
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Vre13
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Guys, look there are 2 different types:
Rum red in picture 1 is swamp dragon, Dark blue in picture 2 is Dragon with barding deed (as you can see - exceptionaly crafted by ....).
So, I think way of creation colored swampies is using a biug - they are dyeing swampy in first stage and after that - placing barding deed on it. Placing deed dont changing swampy color - trhis is exploit too.
Rum red in picture 1 is swamp dragon, Dark blue in picture 2 is Dragon with barding deed (as you can see - exceptionaly crafted by ....).
So, I think way of creation colored swampies is using a biug - they are dyeing swampy in first stage and after that - placing barding deed on it. Placing deed dont changing swampy color - trhis is exploit too.
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Not in this case.
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canary
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As loathe as I am to see Dryad Green armor on the swampies, it really doesnt destroy the game.
There are a lot bigger fish to fry, imo.
There are a lot bigger fish to fry, imo.
Incorrect. One of them has exceptional armor on, why the other don't. LOL, took me a second to realise why it said slime blue...but the owner had just renamed it!
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Teeshy
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Does barding deed always turn up exceptional? If it wasn't exceptional armour, then that would be normal not to show anything wouldn't it? It wouldn't be "marked" with the makers name?
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UOKaiser
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you can craft exeptonal or normal depending on skill and ancient hammer used and you can add mark on them or not just like any other item.
Personaly i like the colors for them I got tired of using iron to valorite colors anyway for swamp armor.
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Connor_Graham
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Sure it is. What you find hideous others actually like. Otherwise they wouldn't have created the hideous-ness that you're so offended by in the first place.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder and your eye isn't the only one beholdin'.
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Lady Pink
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Let people have their fun, who are we to judge how they dress up their poor animals?
Bright colours are fine. But remember that Dylon hadn't invented all those wonderful fabric dyes we take for granted these days. So if you were to look at the dyes available at medieval times, I'd be amazed if you found ice blue. Sure isn't in any of the natural dying books I own
But I'm only concerned about a couple of colours. Mostly the problem stems from players who are inept at matching colour and look like an explosion in a crayola factory. Sometimes players should be protected from themselves lol. But the bottom line is this: we're talking about the colour applied to a swamp dragon. Pets weren't meant to be dyed. I don't think the arguement needs to go any further than that. If you want a neon pet that badly, cu sidhe and hiryu already come coloured.
Wenchy
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Connor_Graham
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Ah, but dragon barding is indeed meant to be colored. Not previously in the Tokuno colors, but colored nonetheless. They're not dying the pet, just the barding the pet is wearing, which will eventually break anyway.
Bright colours are fine. But remember that Dylon hadn't invented all those wonderful fabric dyes we take for granted these days. So if you were to look at the dyes available at medieval times, I'd be amazed if you found ice blue. Sure isn't in any of the natural dying books I own
Well golly. We all know that pink, green and blue metal was available too right? Oh..prolly not either. Yet we never hear anyone complain about that do we? Because, in their personal opinion it's not a problem. That's what this boils down to.
I don't know why all you color police are so damn worried about it. If you couldn't tell the game has become tailored to all you whiners and the rest of us are just holding on to the few dyes that aren't being horded by those who want them for value or just to hoard them.
Some people should come down off their high horse and live with the rest of us too.
Surely the punishment is in being seen to be riding such a hideously adorned creature, no?
http://closeyoureyes.free.fr/UO/colours.htm
http://closeyoureyes.free.fr/UO/colours.htm
LMAO :bowdown::bowdown::bowdown:
Seriously, you don't try and get the fashion victims on the high st banned (even if some of them are wearing a nightie made out of your grannies curtains) so leave the UO fashion victims in peace. If anything, just pity them from a distance, with your eyes closed if necessary!
I can't believe people are making such a fuss over this. Does it matter if a player dyes her whole suit of armor in dryad green vs a swamp dragon the same color?
Why would I want to go out and mine up high end ingots to make dragon barding deeds on my smith/miner, when all I would have to do is make it with Iron and color the deed?
That sure saves alot time and goes against the mechanics of the crafting skill, so this is
I cannot recall into Luna bank because it makes me want to take up :gun:
That sure saves alot time and goes against the mechanics of the crafting skill, so this is
I cannot recall into Luna bank because it makes me want to take up :gun:
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Calla Lily
Guest
Right.
Dragon barding is meant to be coloured because it can be crafted in those colours. That doesn't mean it was intended for you to ToT dye them on top. But, of course, it can be argued a number of different ways, and fans of these dyed swampies will argue whatever they like to justify their actions. But I wouldn't risk an account creating these items and I'd strongly suggest that players don't buy or trade in them either. Until we have a thumbs up from EA, dealing in these items is nuts.
Wenchy
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BakeryGnome
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THAT WAS AWESOME!!!
*pokes the color police*Today when I go to work, I decided I will no longer sell red cars because I personally do not like red. So to hell with the rest of ya.
* pokes at the greedy* Besides, even if they do fix the barding deed dye problem they wont or cant fix the existing ones. Ah ha they will sell for small fortunes. So better not do any thing till its decided.
* pokes at the greedy* Besides, even if they do fix the barding deed dye problem they wont or cant fix the existing ones. Ah ha they will sell for small fortunes. So better not do any thing till its decided.
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Radun
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they didn't ever do anything about the people using an exploit to make swampies have white/grey barding, so I don't foresee them doing about people not using any exploit to dye things that are supposed to be dyable with tokuno pigments...
you're supposed to be able to dye any artifact or item crafted with special materials... swampy barding is made from a special material.
There is no exploit involved.
you're supposed to be able to dye any artifact or item crafted with special materials... swampy barding is made from a special material.
There is no exploit involved.
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Radun
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why 'all of a sudden'?
that's just how new discoveries work... SDI for the wither spell in pvp was left uncapped for YEARS before anyone noticed that... and as soon as someone figured it out, most the necros had 50-80 sdi within a couple days, til they capped it properly at 15% another week or so later. NOBODY got in trouble because they weren't exploiting any bug to overcome the cap... there simply was no cap.
with the swampies, there simply is no measure to disallow pigment dying the barding. no exploit is involved. the devs will either decide it shouldn't be possible, and put in a measure to disallow it... or they will decide it's working as intended (most likely).
that's just how new discoveries work... SDI for the wither spell in pvp was left uncapped for YEARS before anyone noticed that... and as soon as someone figured it out, most the necros had 50-80 sdi within a couple days, til they capped it properly at 15% another week or so later. NOBODY got in trouble because they weren't exploiting any bug to overcome the cap... there simply was no cap.
with the swampies, there simply is no measure to disallow pigment dying the barding. no exploit is involved. the devs will either decide it shouldn't be possible, and put in a measure to disallow it... or they will decide it's working as intended (most likely).
UO has rare ores that spawn in those colours, be a bit daft if you smelted them and they all changed to silver surely? And on top of that, there's a very simply chemical you can use to dye metal in colours which include blue, pink and probably green too. You also get the natural patina on some metals as they age. So, not a matter of opinion as you assume *shrug*
I know it's a lot easier to throw a strop consisting of "colour police" "whiners" and such. But please try and get your head around the idea that maybe these items won't be so legal once the devs come back from holiday. Maybe, they're not just ugly, players may have them changed back or wrists slapped for creating them. So if you want to parade on a yellow swampie, be my guest. But don't you come whining because EA sets the game the way they (not you) want it to look. I'll save my dye charges for special items only, hard luck if you don't like that.
Yeah, someone needs to catch up with the high horses and nerf their leg length. Then paint them yellow. I wonder if there's a My Little Pony online for players like yourself who like smaller mounts in brighter colours. Oh wait, that's probably the new UO expansion after SA...
Wenchy
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Intoxication
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so people are crying cuz they dont think these colors were around when the game is based but they had invisible ethy mounts? I play uo cuz its not like all the other games. I play uo cuz i can make a house look how i want. i can dress my char how i want. i can be what ever color i want.
also btw you can still get the full tok pigments. its call a promo token that lets you pick what ever color you want. I am not running out any time soon.
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Radun
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ultima is based in the future.
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mutau
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I agree, but more so, its alarming that people are trying to sell one of these deeds for Millionsl. that jjust screams "scammers".
Buyers beware! If you buy one more than the price of a tokuno dye charge + barding deed, sucks to be you.
Not to mention the game imbalance due to the over-powered Alchemists!
NERF ALCHEMISTS NOW! Or someone might quit!
Safe Travels, Sam
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Calla Lily
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What promo token gives out Tokuno dyes?
so people are crying cuz they dont think these colors were around when the game is based but they had invisible ethy mounts? I play uo cuz its not like all the other games. I play uo cuz i can make a house look how i want. i can dress my char how i want. i can be what ever color i want.
also btw you can still get the full tok pigments. its call a promo token that lets you pick what ever color you want. I am not running out any time soon.
I know this game aint realisim in the sense that it's a fantasy game, but adding these bright neon dyed items little by little is killing some of that art realism. If these swamps were colored of a more gentle neon with more mixes of color, in a way the colored hiryus are, it would'nt be as bad, but the WHOLE swampy looks like it was like dipped in neon paint, or was given 100% paint bucket in photoshop, it just isn't creative and looks like trash art.
I know many of you say let the regulars have the fun with their "special" animals, but these neon swamps won't be special or fun a few months from now, it will just be an old thing not very many people will care much about anymore, but will only be contibuting to neon pollution in uo.
I know many of you say let the regulars have the fun with their "special" animals, but these neon swamps won't be special or fun a few months from now, it will just be an old thing not very many people will care much about anymore, but will only be contibuting to neon pollution in uo.