Haha sorry but kind of funny when I can ping faster from Asia to Atlantic and Pacific shard than most of you.
This is ridiculous
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Like to add that I am having some serious lag issues as well on SP. It was ok earlier in the day, I was mos def laggin, but I could at least get out and do some mild hunting. This evening it was terrible.
Sucks, cause I have an urge to play for the first time in 4 months, and I can't.
Sucks, cause I have an urge to play for the first time in 4 months, and I can't.
I just did trace routes to every server, and Siege Perilous was actually one of the worst.
Oceania and the Asian shards are routed through Level3, so they have normal pings (I.e. not great, but what you'd expect given their geographical distance) that are as little as half of what I'm getting to US and European shards, every single one of which happens to be routed through Verizon's New York City Alter.net routers.
I Believe some of the staff have come up with a plan to try and help and you will see a post about ti later tonight or tomorrow ! for now lets hold off on blaming people and especially not blame each other even though we all are bored and want to play !
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Vyal
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Look at it this way,
EA promotes a brand new MMO game coming and there is 5 million copies sold like day 1 & everyone logs on the first day and goes WTF I can't do anything at all this is pure lag city..
How long do you think it would take EA to have that problem fixed?
Now UO on the other hand, EA could care less about & will most likely never do a thing about this lag.
200Mbits is more then enough needed to run one of these servers. That type of connection could support 1000's of players.
I pay 99 bucks a month for mine
Now EA is getting 14 bucks a month for all the accounts, I mean thats got to be in the tens of thousands of dollars a month for them in subs.
Where does all that money go? Why is it not going to either getting new servers? Or putting pressure on Alter.net or just buying them better equipment.
I understand not everyone has 200mb/s connections, but I do and I lag worse then I did when I had 56k back in 98. & This only happens for ULTIMA ONLINE EA shards, when I play other games & get routed through alter.net this does not happen.
On the same token I could run a shard right now and support just as many players as ATL has with way way less lag. & if thousands of people a month paid me 14 bucks I damn sure would have the freaking problem fixed if it was on my end or not.
Problem is EA knows EVERYONE who plays their shards is so helplessly addicted to it no matter how much their servers blow the players will still keep accounts open.
EA promotes a brand new MMO game coming and there is 5 million copies sold like day 1 & everyone logs on the first day and goes WTF I can't do anything at all this is pure lag city..
How long do you think it would take EA to have that problem fixed?
Now UO on the other hand, EA could care less about & will most likely never do a thing about this lag.
200Mbits is more then enough needed to run one of these servers. That type of connection could support 1000's of players.
I pay 99 bucks a month for mine
Now EA is getting 14 bucks a month for all the accounts, I mean thats got to be in the tens of thousands of dollars a month for them in subs.
Where does all that money go? Why is it not going to either getting new servers? Or putting pressure on Alter.net or just buying them better equipment.
I understand not everyone has 200mb/s connections, but I do and I lag worse then I did when I had 56k back in 98. & This only happens for ULTIMA ONLINE EA shards, when I play other games & get routed through alter.net this does not happen.
On the same token I could run a shard right now and support just as many players as ATL has with way way less lag. & if thousands of people a month paid me 14 bucks I damn sure would have the freaking problem fixed if it was on my end or not.
Problem is EA knows EVERYONE who plays their shards is so helplessly addicted to it no matter how much their servers blow the players will still keep accounts open.
We can all throw rocks at each other from the same side of the UO fence but I'd prefer we try to gather some info the way some have already done in this thread.
I'm waiting on Petra but I have a thread ready per her input on how to do this modeled something along the lines of SWTOR forums who have seen the same with their playing community.
Now I get the posts about how they have someone paying attention to it for their "baby" will be tempting to make but lets try to focus on the fact that we're a pretty awesome community when it comes to gathering facts.
It may also come up that this verifies its an EA problem but I didn't research enough to say that WoW customers aren't also experiencing latency with their gaming too. I do know its affecting too many not to start kicking some cans around. I challenge us to do it constructively without the pushing and shoving.
Stay tuned, hopefully we'll have a useful format to use to report the latency problems
I'm waiting on Petra but I have a thread ready per her input on how to do this modeled something along the lines of SWTOR forums who have seen the same with their playing community.
Now I get the posts about how they have someone paying attention to it for their "baby" will be tempting to make but lets try to focus on the fact that we're a pretty awesome community when it comes to gathering facts.
It may also come up that this verifies its an EA problem but I didn't research enough to say that WoW customers aren't also experiencing latency with their gaming too. I do know its affecting too many not to start kicking some cans around. I challenge us to do it constructively without the pushing and shoving.
Stay tuned, hopefully we'll have a useful format to use to report the latency problems
I was going to make a post and screen dump of my latency to brag, but I logged in and all the servers were to me just as bad. I'll leave the bragging to a better day.
-Lorax
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Okay... something's definitely rotten in Denmark no matter how you look at it though. Look at most of the reports, and exactly as my pings are presently showing:
Great Lakes and Catskills have higher pings than Atlantic and Lake Superior.
Yet all four of the servers are in the same co-location facility as far as we've been led to believe.
Sonoma and Baja, Napa and Pacific...
Lake Austin?
I mean... how am I getting better pings to ALL of the Asian shards than half of the United States? As far as I was aware, there were two colo facilities (for the U.S., that is)... one on the East and one on the West. And yet the pings are wildly different to what is ostensibly the same geographic location?
Makes no sense.
Great Lakes and Catskills have higher pings than Atlantic and Lake Superior.
Yet all four of the servers are in the same co-location facility as far as we've been led to believe.
Sonoma and Baja, Napa and Pacific...
Lake Austin?
I mean... how am I getting better pings to ALL of the Asian shards than half of the United States? As far as I was aware, there were two colo facilities (for the U.S., that is)... one on the East and one on the West. And yet the pings are wildly different to what is ostensibly the same geographic location?
Makes no sense.
wcom.net is also owned by Verizon
For both traces
-> Alter.net (owned by Verizon) -> wcom.net (also owned by Verizon) -> EA/UO game servers
Ok, first of all let's get one thing straight. The problem that some of you are having with Pacific's lag has nothing to do with EA. That is readily apparent by just looking at the tracert's in this thread. The problem lies with alter.net - period. It's either their equipment in certain areas of the country or their "throttling" certain traffic, one or the other.
This has been alluded to by others here:
As Ezekiel Zane wrote:
then from Lady Laurel:
and finally from goldenpower:
The REAL PROBLEM was recently addressed in an article in Forbes, and I'll quote them (or you can see for yourself here):
So you see folks, our problem (here in the U.S.) is pretty simple. There is not sufficient competition in our "free market" here to cause ISP's to improve our bandwidth... They just don't "have to care" since in most places, they are the only option.
Like here in the Pacific NW, we have ONE "decent" option for broadband. It's either Comcast or Wave Broadband - and their "territories" do NOT overlap, it's ONE or the OTHER - PERIOD.
So if you really want to move UP in the world's "internet speed" from an embarrasing 12th place, you need to get POLITICALLY ACTIVE. Don't accept the current state-of-affairs regarding competition, demand some of our tax dollars go to improving the current infrastructure and/or the laws regarding competition. It's OUR tax dollars and Congress are OUR EMPLOYEE'S... It's time to stand up and yell at them...
Sorry for the rant, but it's just the plain simple truth...
Just sayin....
This has been alluded to by others here:
As Ezekiel Zane wrote:
Like here in the Pacific NW, we have ONE "decent" option for broadband. It's either Comcast or Wave Broadband - and their "territories" do NOT overlap, it's ONE or the OTHER - PERIOD.
So if you really want to move UP in the world's "internet speed" from an embarrasing 12th place, you need to get POLITICALLY ACTIVE. Don't accept the current state-of-affairs regarding competition, demand some of our tax dollars go to improving the current infrastructure and/or the laws regarding competition. It's OUR tax dollars and Congress are OUR EMPLOYEE'S... It's time to stand up and yell at them...
Sorry for the rant, but it's just the plain simple truth...
Just sayin....
I dont know about any of you but I have just been around the world in UO .. its laggy as all hadies... From the asian shards to the east coast europe and australia.... the shards are like walking in tar ... you dont get far. When it takes 2 minutes to get a door to open and get out of your in serious lag.
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oki, here's what we do.
First, we stop attacking each other. That's what gets threads locked and infractions handed out, not the actual complaining about ping.
Second, those that are doing so, stop blaming netflix, the ones on Comcast have the same problem, read here: netflix throttling????? - Comcast Help and Support Forums
We now do something constructive. We collect trace routes.
All the information you need to do this is here: UO Stratics *New* | Server IP Addresses
We will open a new, dedicated thread just for trace routes.
First, we stop attacking each other. That's what gets threads locked and infractions handed out, not the actual complaining about ping.
Second, those that are doing so, stop blaming netflix, the ones on Comcast have the same problem, read here: netflix throttling????? - Comcast Help and Support Forums
We now do something constructive. We collect trace routes.
All the information you need to do this is here: UO Stratics *New* | Server IP Addresses
We will open a new, dedicated thread just for trace routes.
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Luke Carjacker
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Yeah, my lowest pings are to Asian shards and the worst is to Pacific which is my home shard (I'm in California). That really sucks.I created a guy on formosa earlier so I could get some play time in
^^
The problem is either in EA's network, wcom.net or Alter.net. Verizon owns both wcom.net and Alter.net.
EA pays Verizon (directly or indirectly) for the connection to the Verizon network.
The throttling could start at the connection interface between wcom.net and EA, which EA pays Verizon for.
The problem is either in EA's network, wcom.net or Alter.net. Verizon owns both wcom.net and Alter.net.
EA pays Verizon (directly or indirectly) for the connection to the Verizon network.
The throttling could start at the connection interface between wcom.net and EA, which EA pays Verizon for.
The lag seems to have eased up,(atleast for me) and I'm moving at "close" to normal speeds now...
I'm not going to get my hopes up, by thinking it's fixed though, I'm pretty sure it'll be around again tomorrow sometime.
I'm not going to get my hopes up, by thinking it's fixed though, I'm pretty sure it'll be around again tomorrow sometime.
Here it is 7:10 est. Lag looks back to normal, 90 is normal for me being on the east coast to Pac. This all started around 1 Jan for me, before that I never had lag issues. To bad I gotta go to work. 
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WinMTR v0.92 GPL V2 by Appnor MSP - Fully Managed Hosting & Cloud ProviderStaff meaning UO staff? And other than the Atlantic fix?
'Cos off-hand this seems to not be limited to Atlantic.
-Galen's player
At 3:30 in the morning east coast time lag should indeed be quite minimal.
I'm not optimistic but I have my fingers crossed...Especially if the lag continued right up until then, then abruptly stopped.
-Galen's player
I'll agree with one thing said.... THEY DO NOT HAVE TO CARE. Here in the US most of us have ONE choice maybe 2 at most of where we get our internet from.
Where I live if you don't want dial up internet or Satellite and even then Satellite isn't really a choice here... Then you have one place to turn Mediacom... and trust me they KNOW it.
It took me over a YEAR of screaming and calling to get them to do something here.. and I was NOT alone.... the City Council even surveyed the entire city to see if we liked our internet service and actually looked into starting their own.... to relieve the issue. It was seriously ticking me off and finally I began to call and harrass them... I finally towards then end made them refund me... I was paying for "High Speed" internet which was supposed to be "up to 15mps".... the key for them is in the "up to".... I was getting 2 to 4... Finally I put them over a barrel and said listen.... your non-high speed.. customers are being charged only X dollars and are getting the same crap service..... whereas I am paying 3x that for "high speed" either you refund me for what I'm not being provided or we go to court. I got free internet albeit the crappy 2 to 4mps internet for the better part of a year before they FINALLY fixed the problem in the area.
Now I'm back down to 1 to 3mps all the sudden.
Another thing that you need to get your ISP to check is your lines. Seems where I live Squirrels find the lines TASTY...... and the nasty little rodents enjoy eating the cables. So if your internet suddenly goes slow have them come and check out all your lines to your "node" to see if you have any squirrel chews..... this will slow your internet to a crawl.
Shoot all squirrels!
Where I live if you don't want dial up internet or Satellite and even then Satellite isn't really a choice here... Then you have one place to turn Mediacom... and trust me they KNOW it.
It took me over a YEAR of screaming and calling to get them to do something here.. and I was NOT alone.... the City Council even surveyed the entire city to see if we liked our internet service and actually looked into starting their own.... to relieve the issue. It was seriously ticking me off and finally I began to call and harrass them... I finally towards then end made them refund me... I was paying for "High Speed" internet which was supposed to be "up to 15mps".... the key for them is in the "up to".... I was getting 2 to 4... Finally I put them over a barrel and said listen.... your non-high speed.. customers are being charged only X dollars and are getting the same crap service..... whereas I am paying 3x that for "high speed" either you refund me for what I'm not being provided or we go to court. I got free internet albeit the crappy 2 to 4mps internet for the better part of a year before they FINALLY fixed the problem in the area.
Now I'm back down to 1 to 3mps all the sudden.
Another thing that you need to get your ISP to check is your lines. Seems where I live Squirrels find the lines TASTY...... and the nasty little rodents enjoy eating the cables. So if your internet suddenly goes slow have them come and check out all your lines to your "node" to see if you have any squirrel chews..... this will slow your internet to a crawl.
Shoot all squirrels!
Pretty pathetic how there has still not been a single response from the dev team or our "producer" about this.