Ugh.
I guess it is time for a Logic lesson, again.
OK...first let's take this statement:
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bring preren uo and we wil lbe happy
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OK...so...let's take a look at Pre Ren, as opposed to todays' UO:
1. You could kill anyone anywhere. There was NOTHING to stop you from guilding a new player to "Our Side"...and then kill them and dry loot them.
2. Thieves were EVERYWHERE. Leg Humpers abounded, and you couldn't go to a bank without getting snooped, unless you took massive precautions.
3. There was no where else to go...if you didn't like PvP or Thieving, you had few choices.
I could go on, but there really is no purpose.
Now...this Gem:
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....its disgusting there is a thread with over 50 pages and we get a blanket statement by darkscribe that says basically no.....good job guys. wonder why wow is so popular? its actually fun.
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Now...go back up and read what I posted above...carefully.
Now...compare todays' WoW to UO Pre-Ren...then come back and present your compelling argument as to exactly what makes WoW so fun, as opposed to what made Pre-Ren so fun.
As to the 50 pages...lol.
40 people wouldn't pay for a shard. I feel compelled to throw that in. But that is about how many unique posters you have here, excluding of course the extra accounts created at Stratics to bolster the number of supporters, etc.
Go look HARD at WoW...(HINTS: NO Looting of Opponents...No Thieving (that I am aware of)...No Guilding a player, then killing them...NONE of the things you folks say "Made UO Great!!"...and yet...they have...like 43 TIMES our subscription levels...hmmmmm.
So...the Graphics?
If we gave Trammel and Fel WoW graphics...do you really think that, at the same time, we bring back the rampant PKing and Looting and Thieving that WAS Pre-UO:R, that the Graphics would get us millions, given the game play experience?
See...I don't. Neither do the Execs at Blizzard.
Otherwise, WoW would HAVE that gameplay.
HINT: Non-Consensual PvP, ala Pre Ren, doesn't appeal to all that many people.
Look how many YEARS it has taken Darkfall to get to Beta...oh...IS DFO to Beta yet? My bad...
That's what I thought...
Look at Eve Online...lit has literally taken YEARS to hit the 100K Subscriber mark.
Completely Non-Consensual PvP is NOT a big draw, folks. No matter how many times you say it, it is NOT something MOST people will pay money each month to participate in.
It is a very niche market. And, based on the number crunchers view of it at EA, and WoW, for that matter, (who...by the way...do have all the most pertinent data to make their decisions from), it is not a viable enterprise, at this time.
I could quote Wilki for you, but you folks know all that.
Blind persistence, based on conjecture, is fun to watch though.
Please...don't stop on my account...