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<font color=red>**Latest Update**</font color=red>
I can't believe this topic has survived an entire year. Right now I am thinking of holding a second Pre-UOR shard rally at the end of May. Possibly on the 28th. I will update this topic soon with all the new Pre-UOR related news from the past year.
<font color=blue>**Older Updates**</font color=blue>
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Recently there have been several polls about Pre-UOR. Things like this should help the developers see there is a strong interest in a Pre-UOR shard. The UO Stratics Poll of the Week after almost a week of polling came out to 68% of this board users would be interested in playing, while only 25% wouldn't.
UORadio.com is also running a poll, with nearly the same results. Over there, 67% of visitors would be interested in playing on such a shard while only 24% would not.
In the other Ultima Survey Thread, that was reposted from the official survey, also had strong results. So far 55% are interested in playing on am original ruleset shard while only 32% would not.
Also this week, Developer Leurocian posted in a U Hall thread that he and other team members would, "love to see a Pre-UOR shard." This is a very good sign, but he also cautioned, "Whether this will ever happen or not, I really don't know. It is a topic that keeps coming up, and I know it was asked and noted at the DC meetup." So they are definitly listening. Don't lose hope!
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The Pre-UOR rally held on May 29 was a smashing success. Announced only a week before, it drew well over 100 players. Some estimate over 200. Not only current players were represented, but at least one even went out to purchase a current copy of UO to login! A great example of the dedication for the Pre-UOR shard cause.
The rally had it's share of surprises. After the biggest IDOC event on Atlantic finished (amazing conincidence, eh?) I went to check out to the bank 3 1/2 hours before the rally start. There were 5 players already waiting!
As 5PM came closer and closer the bank began to fill with players.
Word of the rally certainly was wide spread. Sonoma's Event Moderator Masara even made an appearance before the event.
I was too busy to go over and see what he was saying, maybe someone who was there can fill us all in. What I do notice from the screenshots I took was how respectful players were around him. Notice they are not standing on him or spamming things like "Can you give me your robe?" Well at least I didn't see any of that in the few screenshots I have =]
More and more players flocked to the bank on their own. In fact, most walked there on their own. Partly this was my fault, all my helpers were pre-occupied by other Atlantic events =[
By 5PM the bank was flooded with players. I don't have any good screenshots due to being on gate duty. When I arrived back around 5:30 it seems some neferious activites were underway.
The Anti-PreUOR players were out to cause mischief anyway they could. At one point they sent in 3 necromancer murderers deep into the crowd in an apparent sucide withering.
However it did not keep players down for long. Some helpful paladins mass ressurected with their holy sacrifice abilities.
Around 6PM I did a little welcome speech. It was just a little something to thank everyone for coming. Later I became aware how the communication crystals were broken! I am not sure how many actually saw me speak. I remember in Pre-UOR how we actually had comm crystals that worked.........hehe.
Looking back at the rally I wish I formally planned some events and entertainment. I have never hosted an event like this before, there was no telling what to expect. Several have asked whether another will be hosted. The answer is most likely. But there can't be too many of them. Someone mentioned bi-weekly, such a schedual would cause them to lose their specialness (best word I could think of). Right now I think it would be best to shoot for another rally in one month on a different shard. Anyone who would like to organize such an event should contact me. Perhaps we could have an Olympic style where hosts will offer up their shard and the public can vote where it will be. With all that was learned from this rally, the next one should be bigger, better, and louder.
Once again, thank you to all who came. Here is some of your opinions:
PS- I would like to give a shout out to SX guild for making things more interesting with their green robes!
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Link to the reply with Admiral Ruffie's Pre-UOR Interview!
Jeremy has sent in this link of old Alpha, Beta, and early UO!
____________________________________________________________________________
Seeking Pre-UOR screenshots! If you have an interesting screenshot please send it to [email protected]. Your screenshot may be featured in this thread or in some other form of Pre-UOR support. The screenshot can be of anything, but must be Pre-UOR. Please include "UOR" in the subject so the email filter knows where to put it!
Permission has been granted for the creation of one thread for dicussing Pre-UOR, specifically the creation of a Pre-UOR shard.
To discuss Pre-UOR first everyone should know what it was. The following is a list of points of what Pre-UOR UO was:
<ul>
[*]There was only a single facet, what is now know as Felucca. The whole game consisted of what is now called the "Felucca Ruleset". T2A did exist.
[*]There was no item insurance, power scrolls, stat locks, factions, BODs, Runic Weapons/Armor
[*]You had to refresh your house every 10 days or it would decay
[*]Houses could be declared public or private, if private you would flag grey to all owners/friends/co-owners of the house
[*]No house customization
[*]There was only leather, no spined/barbed/horned
[*]Magic weapons and armor were easier to get, and had fewer types. The only "properties" were damage increase, increase of tactics, durability increase, and AR increase
[*]All damage type was either physically or magical. Physical was reduced by AR and Magical was reduced by Resisting Spells Skill
[*]Murders could not enter towns
[*]Chivalry, Necromancy, Bushido, and Ninjitsu skills did not exist
[*]No veteren rewards (Yes, this means no Ethernals!) and all players had 700 skill points, no age bonuses
[*]Dungeon Khaldun did not exist
[*]Starting gold was 100
[*]Player killers would experience "stat loss", losing skill upon ressurection if they did not work off enough murder counts
[*]Poisoning skill did not enhance a mage's poison spell or poison fields
[*]You had to use a specific skill to gain in it, Weapon skills would not gain anatomy and Magery would not gain Eval Int
[*]There were no combat special moves except wrestling disarm and paralize
[*]*More to come, post replies if something should be added
[/list]
After a quick poll of this thread to see who was for and against the total comes out to:
<font color=green>34 For Some type of Old Style Shard</font color=green>
<font color=red>5 Against</font color=red>
An overwhelming <font color=green>87%</font color=green> support an Old Style Shard!
<font color=red>Note:</font color=red> This poll was taken by quickly skimming each reply, those with no definitive answer were excluded. Anyone who wants to get better numbers, I will glady post them here. This poll is not meant to represent any group of persons except those who felt compelled to reply to this thread.
<font color=yellow>*Original Post requesting Rule being lifted*</font color=yellow>
It is absurd that a board rule is based on a comment nearly 4 years old by a UO team member who is no longer working at OSI. In addition, by having this rule it stems any support which could be gathered for such a shard. A lot of players would love to play or come back to a Pre-UOR shard, so why stop something that everyone wants to talk about? Here is the comment cited in the UHall FAQ:
<blockquote><hr>
From old Read-Only FAQ board (Updated 10/23/2001)
This FAQ was originally posted by Cynthe
If you don't want the board cluttered up with threads that is a reasonable response, but that is usually solved with a single sticky thread.
<font color=blue>Will you ever create a pre-UOR rules shard?</font color=blue>
<font color=red>No.
Turning back time three years to reinstate the code as it was then is not possible, and there have been far too many improvements and additions made to the game since then to create a new shard without those!
We also have no current plans to get rid of the Trammel or Felucca ruleset.</font color=red>
[/ QUOTE ]
Why couldn't we have one thread to discuss anything about a Pre-UOR shard?
I can't believe this topic has survived an entire year. Right now I am thinking of holding a second Pre-UOR shard rally at the end of May. Possibly on the 28th. I will update this topic soon with all the new Pre-UOR related news from the past year.
<font color=blue>**Older Updates**</font color=blue>
______________________________________________________
Recently there have been several polls about Pre-UOR. Things like this should help the developers see there is a strong interest in a Pre-UOR shard. The UO Stratics Poll of the Week after almost a week of polling came out to 68% of this board users would be interested in playing, while only 25% wouldn't.
UORadio.com is also running a poll, with nearly the same results. Over there, 67% of visitors would be interested in playing on such a shard while only 24% would not.
In the other Ultima Survey Thread, that was reposted from the official survey, also had strong results. So far 55% are interested in playing on am original ruleset shard while only 32% would not.
Also this week, Developer Leurocian posted in a U Hall thread that he and other team members would, "love to see a Pre-UOR shard." This is a very good sign, but he also cautioned, "Whether this will ever happen or not, I really don't know. It is a topic that keeps coming up, and I know it was asked and noted at the DC meetup." So they are definitly listening. Don't lose hope!
_______________________________________________________________________
The Pre-UOR rally held on May 29 was a smashing success. Announced only a week before, it drew well over 100 players. Some estimate over 200. Not only current players were represented, but at least one even went out to purchase a current copy of UO to login! A great example of the dedication for the Pre-UOR shard cause.
The rally had it's share of surprises. After the biggest IDOC event on Atlantic finished (amazing conincidence, eh?) I went to check out to the bank 3 1/2 hours before the rally start. There were 5 players already waiting!
As 5PM came closer and closer the bank began to fill with players.
Word of the rally certainly was wide spread. Sonoma's Event Moderator Masara even made an appearance before the event.
I was too busy to go over and see what he was saying, maybe someone who was there can fill us all in. What I do notice from the screenshots I took was how respectful players were around him. Notice they are not standing on him or spamming things like "Can you give me your robe?" Well at least I didn't see any of that in the few screenshots I have =]
More and more players flocked to the bank on their own. In fact, most walked there on their own. Partly this was my fault, all my helpers were pre-occupied by other Atlantic events =[
By 5PM the bank was flooded with players. I don't have any good screenshots due to being on gate duty. When I arrived back around 5:30 it seems some neferious activites were underway.
The Anti-PreUOR players were out to cause mischief anyway they could. At one point they sent in 3 necromancer murderers deep into the crowd in an apparent sucide withering.
However it did not keep players down for long. Some helpful paladins mass ressurected with their holy sacrifice abilities.
Around 6PM I did a little welcome speech. It was just a little something to thank everyone for coming. Later I became aware how the communication crystals were broken! I am not sure how many actually saw me speak. I remember in Pre-UOR how we actually had comm crystals that worked.........hehe.
Looking back at the rally I wish I formally planned some events and entertainment. I have never hosted an event like this before, there was no telling what to expect. Several have asked whether another will be hosted. The answer is most likely. But there can't be too many of them. Someone mentioned bi-weekly, such a schedual would cause them to lose their specialness (best word I could think of). Right now I think it would be best to shoot for another rally in one month on a different shard. Anyone who would like to organize such an event should contact me. Perhaps we could have an Olympic style where hosts will offer up their shard and the public can vote where it will be. With all that was learned from this rally, the next one should be bigger, better, and louder.
Once again, thank you to all who came. Here is some of your opinions:
PS- I would like to give a shout out to SX guild for making things more interesting with their green robes!
____________________________________________________________________________
Link to the reply with Admiral Ruffie's Pre-UOR Interview!
Jeremy has sent in this link of old Alpha, Beta, and early UO!
____________________________________________________________________________
Seeking Pre-UOR screenshots! If you have an interesting screenshot please send it to [email protected]. Your screenshot may be featured in this thread or in some other form of Pre-UOR support. The screenshot can be of anything, but must be Pre-UOR. Please include "UOR" in the subject so the email filter knows where to put it!
Permission has been granted for the creation of one thread for dicussing Pre-UOR, specifically the creation of a Pre-UOR shard.
To discuss Pre-UOR first everyone should know what it was. The following is a list of points of what Pre-UOR UO was:
<ul>
[*]There was only a single facet, what is now know as Felucca. The whole game consisted of what is now called the "Felucca Ruleset". T2A did exist.
[*]There was no item insurance, power scrolls, stat locks, factions, BODs, Runic Weapons/Armor
[*]You had to refresh your house every 10 days or it would decay
[*]Houses could be declared public or private, if private you would flag grey to all owners/friends/co-owners of the house
[*]No house customization
[*]There was only leather, no spined/barbed/horned
[*]Magic weapons and armor were easier to get, and had fewer types. The only "properties" were damage increase, increase of tactics, durability increase, and AR increase
[*]All damage type was either physically or magical. Physical was reduced by AR and Magical was reduced by Resisting Spells Skill
[*]Murders could not enter towns
[*]Chivalry, Necromancy, Bushido, and Ninjitsu skills did not exist
[*]No veteren rewards (Yes, this means no Ethernals!) and all players had 700 skill points, no age bonuses
[*]Dungeon Khaldun did not exist
[*]Starting gold was 100
[*]Player killers would experience "stat loss", losing skill upon ressurection if they did not work off enough murder counts
[*]Poisoning skill did not enhance a mage's poison spell or poison fields
[*]You had to use a specific skill to gain in it, Weapon skills would not gain anatomy and Magery would not gain Eval Int
[*]There were no combat special moves except wrestling disarm and paralize
[*]*More to come, post replies if something should be added
[/list]
After a quick poll of this thread to see who was for and against the total comes out to:
<font color=green>34 For Some type of Old Style Shard</font color=green>
<font color=red>5 Against</font color=red>
An overwhelming <font color=green>87%</font color=green> support an Old Style Shard!
<font color=red>Note:</font color=red> This poll was taken by quickly skimming each reply, those with no definitive answer were excluded. Anyone who wants to get better numbers, I will glady post them here. This poll is not meant to represent any group of persons except those who felt compelled to reply to this thread.
<font color=yellow>*Original Post requesting Rule being lifted*</font color=yellow>
It is absurd that a board rule is based on a comment nearly 4 years old by a UO team member who is no longer working at OSI. In addition, by having this rule it stems any support which could be gathered for such a shard. A lot of players would love to play or come back to a Pre-UOR shard, so why stop something that everyone wants to talk about? Here is the comment cited in the UHall FAQ:
<blockquote><hr>
From old Read-Only FAQ board (Updated 10/23/2001)
This FAQ was originally posted by Cynthe
If you don't want the board cluttered up with threads that is a reasonable response, but that is usually solved with a single sticky thread.
<font color=blue>Will you ever create a pre-UOR rules shard?</font color=blue>
<font color=red>No.
Turning back time three years to reinstate the code as it was then is not possible, and there have been far too many improvements and additions made to the game since then to create a new shard without those!
We also have no current plans to get rid of the Trammel or Felucca ruleset.</font color=red>
[/ QUOTE ]
Why couldn't we have one thread to discuss anything about a Pre-UOR shard?
I don't care, and there are only two reasons why it had become a standing rule.
