Sonoma PvP Thread

[imported_Vexxed]

lol... what Cbone said...

 

[Trinsauce]

We're wasting our breaths here Zarc... They have tunnel vision and think pvping is all UO is cracked up to be... Truth be told I get bored as hell doing the same [censored] over and over...

Hey all let's run after someone over server lines over and over... rinse, repeat... get real guys... I would much rather kill a monster that doesn't run at the first sign of 20 damage being done to them...

I hate to say it all my time playing UO I have pvped 90% of the time and pvm'd 10%... More and more as I play it's slowly tilting towards pvming... It's not so much the quantity or lack thereof, it's the quality... I will chase people up and down up and down a server line and juss give up cause it's a waste of my time...

PVM > Current PVP unfortunately...

 

[trickmaster]

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lol... what Cbone said...

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Peon, why do you always cite total veteran member numbers, knowing full well that they don't mean anything? Just curious, really. For instance, Monster has 3 accounts, Timmy has 2, I have 2, Falcon has multiple, Snoop has multiple, kal has multiple... etc. etc. etc. What's the point?

It's always about active players at any given time, not how many characters one possesses. Don't take this the wrong way, but I've always felt (and said so explicitly) that only active players matter in any guild, and any expression otherwise just seems Rtarded (hehe o how i love south park).

Example: For a good while (at least a month or two) 3f hasn't really even been playing Sonoma.

Additional Example: If Sonoma was the main shard for FOO, you can sure as hell bet those "veteran member" numbers would be 2-3x higher.

There are so many factors you aren't even taking into account. Spitting out crap like Cboner does just makes you look stupid, man, and I know you aren't by any means.


edit: Also by your logic, seems like COP is zerging you guys out with 30 more characters.... KQ seems close behind you guys in veteran members, they must be putting up a good fight, right? I mean, really, PAS must be zerging you guys out every night etc. etc. etc. etc. etc.

 

[Seduction]

Well hmm, if they are not active then why keep em in guild?
And anyone who says pvm&gt;pvp is definatly on the loosing side and should prolly keep to PVM!
I haven't been to the gate in awhile so don't know who you all are seeing cause was not me, infact the last time I was there was when I posted that screenshot of the house hiders! Remember there is 3 Seductions so don't always assume its me

 

[RedRumPKsU]

DELETED!!

 

[Black Majick]

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Well hmm, if they are not active then why keep em in guild?
And anyone who says pvm&gt;pvp is definatly on the loosing side and should prolly keep to PVM!
I haven't been to the gate in awhile so don't know who you all are seeing cause was not me, infact the last time I was there was when I posted that screenshot of the house hiders! Remember there is 3 Seductions so don't always assume its me

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I will say this from my PoV. I not sure about what the leaders will say, but people have RLs. I know MJ has a job that takes up alot of his time. Zarc, Monster and Timmy all 3 go to school. Peeps have GFs and lives outside of this game. Some weeks are more busy than others. Some weeks you may see peeps on everynite. Some they may not be. Whether they are active are not they are still Waka and will remain on the stone. ON a side note. Most of the time when some of the Waka members go inactive for a period of time they let there GM know what is going on. If I am not going to be on much in a week or two period I tell timmy as he knows why I am not on, and does not jump to conclusions.

Also for those numbers. Up until recently I had 5-6 of those chars myself. That is just ones I have tossed into guild. I could have all the way up to 10. Also most waka has is about 12 or so when everyone, and i mean everyone, is on.

 

[Seduction]

Again just want to thank TBA for forcing us to travel to tram to do our Lady M...

 

[hi im shadow]

i have 3-4 chars in tba.

 

[imported_Vexxed]

And TBA Alliance is totally UNIQUE... it must be utterly impossible that Foo players could have multiple characters in the guild .... lolololol...

259 : 54 That's 4.79 TBA alliance chars / ea Foo character. Obviously there's even numbers bc apparently EVERY TBA alliance member has at least 4 characters in the alliance and EVERY SINGLE character on the Foo stone must be a different real life person... lol.. you guys crack me up. Won't even admit that

259 : 54 is WAY outnumbered... go back to third grade and learn some math. No matter how you slice it you've got mad numbers.

 

[Sickshine]

How long will this argument go on? Everybody has more than one char. That is why you can have up to 6 char.s on one account per shard. You start adding in players with multiple accounts makes it impossible to know just how many real people are in a guild. One thing to consider though im not sure of the exact number but i believe dark stone said there was 10 to 12 real members in waka that would mean 12 people times 6 char. slots would be 74 char. Now i know some slots are taken up by non guilded toons, but there is also the multiple account holders so i don't think that number would be too far off to be an accurate ratio of players to toons. So whats the point of arguing numbers just go out and fight if you can't enjoy it because you may die don't play. Since coming back to sonoma on a non guilded red i get attacked by everyone! That doesn't mean im not having fun.

 

[imported_Vexxed]

The point was that I hear TBA talk mad [censored] when they zerg out a despise but then completely ignore the fact that they zerged it..... I find it amusing.

Lets not compare vet members then..... someone in TBA who can guess pls tell us how many different RL people make up the TBA alliance and I will ask around for Foo... lol I'm sure it will be enlightening...

 

[Sickshine]

I can understand getting annoyed with smack talk. I don't think we have to be all smiley and roses, but there is room for improvement. I really never understood why anyone would act like they are a uo god when they kill one person while having 2 or 3 people helping them. Im not above ganking someone, but theres no need to act like you just reinvented pvp when you do it.

 

[Seduction]

Their numbers are getting bigger peon, I've seen several B.C. joining them now! LOL

 

[Cbone]

yeah, yet more annoying archers to deal with.

 

[trickmaster]

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The point was that I hear TBA talk mad [censored] when they zerg out a despise but then completely ignore the fact that they zerged it..... I find it amusing.

Lets not compare vet members then..... someone in TBA who can guess pls tell us how many different RL people make up the TBA alliance and I will ask around for Foo... lol I'm sure it will be enlightening...

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Acutally, TBA doesn't talk mad [censored] if and when they zerg out a despise...usually they just leave and then go about their business.

I'd say a good 60-70% of any [censored] talk is provoked by very specific people on either side. Think about how many people are in each guild and how many of each are posting on the board. A very very small handful. Why let 3-4 people get your goat when, if they're as huge as you think they are, like 90% of them don't even talk any [censored] to you....

You make all these generalizations and post all of these meaningless numbers... it's just so pointless. The majority of the time you play is when a good 90% of the shard is asleep. You're never at the prime time fights, you're not on for most of the day. All you've got is people like cboner feeding you [censored].

And also, I'd like to reiterate how pointless it is to compare any numbers but active numbers, AND EVEN THEN you have to compare things situation to situation. Say tba had 100 active people, and foo 4, well a 4 foo v 1 tba fight is just as much zerg and 100 v 4. Stop crying about "zerg". You sure as hell weren't crying when you guys were "zerging" out despise as kos/moo/tek and raiding 3-4 players with 12-15. That argument is so freakin' stupid.

I fought alongside 3 or 4 other people yesterday at oaks against like 6-7 foo. We managed to do enough to steal the champ and get enough hits on it to get a 20 wrestle before they just ganked it and red-killed it. Stuff differs from situation to situation. Foo's numbers seem to be growing weekly, and they often can field quite a few people. This shard has pretty much gone downhill since the arrival of foo. I'm interested in seeing where it goes.

 

[Guest]

shutup all of you!

 

[Cbone]

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The point was that I hear TBA talk mad [censored] when they zerg out a despise but then completely ignore the fact that they zerged it..... I find it amusing.

Lets not compare vet members then..... someone in TBA who can guess pls tell us how many different RL people make up the TBA alliance and I will ask around for Foo... lol I'm sure it will be enlightening...

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Acutally, TBA doesn't talk mad [censored] if and when they zerg out a despise...usually they just leave and then go about their business.

I'd say a good 60-70% of any [censored] talk is provoked by very specific people on either side. Think about how many people are in each guild and how many of each are posting on the board. A very very small handful. Why let 3-4 people get your goat when, if they're as huge as you think they are, like 90% of them don't even talk any [censored] to you....

You make all these generalizations and post all of these meaningless numbers... it's just so pointless. The majority of the time you play is when a good 90% of the shard is asleep. You're never at the prime time fights, you're not on for most of the day. All you've got is people like cboner feeding you [censored].

And also, I'd like to reiterate how pointless it is to compare any numbers but active numbers, AND EVEN THEN you have to compare things situation to situation. Say tba had 100 active people, and foo 4, well a 4 foo v 1 tba fight is just as much zerg and 100 v 4. Stop crying about "zerg". You sure as hell weren't crying when you guys were "zerging" out despise as kos/moo/tek and raiding 3-4 players with 12-15. That argument is so freakin' stupid.

I fought alongside 3 or 4 other people yesterday at oaks against like 6-7 foo. We managed to do enough to steal the champ and get enough hits on it to get a 20 wrestle before they just ganked it and red-killed it. Stuff differs from situation to situation. Foo's numbers seem to be growing weekly, and they often can field quite a few people. This shard has pretty much gone downhill since the arrival of foo. I'm interested in seeing where it goes.

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you honestly really dont believe any of that do you? are you just trying to save face on the boards?

 

[Guest]

I gotta gree with CBone, most of the post from trickmaster was irrelevant. Specially the part where "fO_O is growing weekly" Considering I for one have hardly played on Sonoma the past week or more, and I was playing every day for a while. And each time I return its the SAME persons playing no one new, maybe different chars but thats it.

Each and every guild "Zergs" just a matter of how many ppl are on durin that particualr time. However from what I have "Seen" so far, TBA/Waka about 75% of the time our numbers F.

I am honestly in the agreements with Trin in a way, PVP these days is completely ********, It is not fun to do like it once was, not sure why, but it just really isn't. haha now that I think of it, one of my biggest complaints about todays pvp, as big of an [censored], or complainer or "DEAL WITH IT" as this sounds, Dismounter Arhcers/dexxers....I swear to christ that is one of the biggest reasons I die these days is cause I end up getting DMounted (dont tell me its my gear cause im 45 DCI 120 Fencing) and thats when all the blues end up getting happy cause a red is on foot.


Oh, I do have one question. Why is it when a Blue ganks me and ends up helping / assisting in ki lling me, and I get rezzed with in 10-20 seconds, why is that blue not grey to me?

 

[imported_Vexxed]

BLAH blah blah blah blah Zarc. I had a simple point. TBA has more people.... and whatever they manage to accomplish is generatlly bc of that. That's my whole point. You can over analyze it all you want, but it's still quite simple.

1 &gt; 2
2 &gt; 3

259 &gt; 54

Foo &gt; TBA

Simple ....... = P

I've been told as a rough guess that Foo consists of about 30 real life people. TBA ???? anyone ?

 

[hi im shadow]

well obviously since FOO members come to complain it must mean that
TBA &gt; FOO
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[Black Majick]

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BLAH blah blah blah blah Zarc. I had a simple point. TBA has more people.... and whatever they manage to accomplish is generatlly bc of that. That's my whole point. You can over analyze it all you want, but it's still quite simple.

1 &gt; 2
2 &gt; 3

259 &gt; 54

Foo &gt; TBA

Simple ....... = P

I've been told as a rough guess that Foo consists of about 30 real life people. TBA ???? anyone ?

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Who cares. Just play and have fun sheesh. I about sick of all the BS with yall. Who cares who has more. Call some buddies in from other shards. Get them to bring a char over to help even things out.

How about yall stop posting on here and go find some fights.

 

[Cbone]

we post on here because we cant find fights and im mining blackrock!

 

[trickmaster]

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you honestly really dont believe any of that do you? are you just trying to save face on the boards?

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Save face? What? I'm basically repeating the same thing I've been saying for forever and a day. I even said this stuff when I was in a guild WITH peon.

Save face? lol.

 

[trickmaster]

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BLAH blah blah blah blah Zarc. I had a simple point. TBA has more people.... and whatever they manage to accomplish is generatlly bc of that. That's my whole point. You can over analyze it all you want, but it's still quite simple.

1 &gt; 2
2 &gt; 3

259 &gt; 54

Foo &gt; TBA

Simple ....... = P


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I'm not overanalyzing anything. You say one thing then you try to use it to "prove" a point that it doesn't. Make a sensible argument already.

You give foo way too much credit. I've participated in waka only fights against foo where we've dominated (even numbers too). I've participated in even numbers fights with TBA + Waka and FOO where we've won. Sometimes there are losses.

Get off your high horse, FOO isn't the best guild in the world.

 

[trickmaster]

Ahhh this thread is lame. No more posting for me.

 

[SixUnder]

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BLAH blah blah blah blah Zarc. I had a simple point. TBA has more people.... and whatever they manage to accomplish is generatlly bc of that. That's my whole point. You can over analyze it all you want, but it's still quite simple.

1 &gt; 2
2 &gt; 3

259 &gt; 54

Foo &gt; TBA

Simple ....... = P

I've been told as a rough guess that Foo consists of about 30 real life people. TBA ???? anyone ?

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well i dont realy care about the rest of the thread but i can tell you the most we have ever had in vent on any shard is 22. i myself have 6 chars guilded to TBA. so your post has been proven wrong, for what it matters.

 

[xFallenTear]

Chris I agree...

1) UO is zerg now, doesn't matter what guild it is

2) UO consists of super gimp templates like dismounting bola dogs, evasion dexers, DS mages, tamer mages, etc. All guilds have them now... and yes the mighty choke point necro

3) A large majority of players use some type of computer enhancing program... No, let's please not get into a debate of legal or not... in the last 2 years I would say 70% of pvpers I have encountered use it.

4) Less population and less guilds = you guessed it less fights.

5) Todays fights center around Despise and harrower chokes.

6) Everyone is the greatest dueler field fighter in the game. I encounter the greatest pvper everytime I sign into fel at some point throughout the night.

7) EA does not care about pvpers and their content despite claiming over 1/4 of the population exclusivly pvp.

8) the only fights any guilds can find are when they transfer to a new shard and after amonth it's back to normal... now that EA has made getting codes very difficult, no one will pay $20 for a token meaning less fights.

I have signed on every night since last wednesday to scout around t2a and finding no fights minus a few people at brit so I log. I think the first time I saw a fight was last night at oaks when I signed when the champ was already dead

my chance at my once a week pvp slipped away.

I am not blaming any guilds anymore... it's simply a dieing game... I am just holding out until KR to see if maybe some people will come back for a few months.

 

[Guest]

Yeah, I still have a darn non gimp template. And its sad how many ppl solely rely on there bokuto or dismounts just to win. But what ever, its agame, a lame one at that. And also what Trin has said, I have been doing a little PVM on another shard as well. Cuase quite frankly, pvp is lame haha. We'll see what changes happen, if any, otherwise, well nothing ill still probably play this game.

 

[Avast of FL]

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The point was that I hear TBA talk mad [censored] when they zerg out a despise but then completely ignore the fact that they zerged it..... I find it amusing.

Lets not compare vet members then..... someone in TBA who can guess pls tell us how many different RL people make up the TBA alliance and I will ask around for Foo... lol I'm sure it will be enlightening...

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TBA has every right to talk any smack but I don't see it if it's uneven numbers. I'll talk a lil smack, but only to those who I kill 1v1 and don't deserve an ounce of respect. Basically, if you're a good field fighting mage, good stuff and more respect towards you. However if your a dexer that only needs to worry about bandaid timers, and spamming divine fury while using moving shot and you get outsmarted and pwned by another dexer with zero tactics, then you my friend get zero respect and have no say on the boards. ie: Seduction, Sa-Vok, and any other 3 button pvp archers. If anyone here disagrees with me, please show your concern on the field.

Avast261UO

 

[Sickshine]

I had a rather pleasant experience with tba last night. While out looking for trouble i went to despise and did my best to cause chaos. I killed one tba (he was a necro peacer in wraith form) and then left the spawn area watching the edges hoping to pick someone off. Necro peacer see me and with the help of a rat mage and an orge lord drops me. I go get rezed and go wait in the star room. I had a nice little fight with another tba member for a while (neither of us really winning or losing) until necro peacer comes and i lose the 2v1. After all of this tba was kind enough to rez me and we talk a minute and go about our seperate ways. My hats off to ya it was fun and nobody had to talk about their leet skills. Looking forward to more encounters like this.

 

[thechoppa]

Yah, fun times for me too. I strangled myself twice though because off some odd stuff.

Actually, maybe someone can help me out with this. I formated my hard drive this weekend, and couldn't find my key for my original windows xp, so I play win 98 and there are problems with my uoassist... I am sure the queue target box is not checked, but lets say I press the f6 button (strangle), 99% of the time I end up strangling myself (no I'm not targeting me, just pressing F6).

Should I try to uninstall and reinstall UoAssist, or is it just buggy with windows 98?

 

[hi im shadow]

damn, yall complain alot

 

[Guest]

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Yah, fun times for me too. I strangled myself twice though because off some odd stuff.

Actually, maybe someone can help me out with this. I formated my hard drive this weekend, and couldn't find my key for my original windows xp, so I play win 98 and there are problems with my uoassist... I am sure the queue target box is not checked, but lets say I press the f6 button (strangle), 99% of the time I end up strangling myself (no I'm not targeting me, just pressing F6).

Should I try to uninstall and reinstall UoAssist, or is it just buggy with windows 98?

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Is F6 binded to a Target Self within UOA? Or even on UO?

 

[hi im shadow]

u might of made a macro to target self in those "play macro 1-9" and might of binded it to f6...just an idea...check that.

 

[Avast of FL]

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The point was that I hear TBA talk mad [censored] when they zerg out a despise but then completely ignore the fact that they zerged it..... I find it amusing.

Lets not compare vet members then..... someone in TBA who can guess pls tell us how many different RL people make up the TBA alliance and I will ask around for Foo... lol I'm sure it will be enlightening...

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TBA has every right to talk any smack but I don't see it if it's uneven numbers. I'll talk a lil smack, but only to those who I kill 1v1 and don't deserve an ounce of respect. Basically, if you're a good field fighting mage, good stuff and more respect towards you. However if your a dexer that only needs to worry about bandaid timers, and spamming divine fury while using moving shot and you get outsmarted and pwned by another dexer with zero tactics, then you my friend get zero respect and have no say on the boards. ie: Seduction, Sa-Vok, and any other 3 button pvp archers. If anyone here disagrees with me, please show your concern on the field.

Avast261UO

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3 button pvp archers? rofl, arnt you one of those avast? and the only time waka beats us "even numbers" is when theyre guard fighting on their blue speedhacking moving shot archers/dismounters, maybe you should make one zarc.

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All I have to say is lawls. Just admit getting pwned by an archer that only does 9 dmg reg hits and 20 dmg moving shots. Then we can talk about your xfer to Pac for some more pwnage on the field with my mage. Until then Gimp Avast stomps you on your own shard.

Avast261UO

 

[Trinsauce]

3 button pvp archers? rofl, arnt you one of those avast? and the only time waka beats us "even numbers" is when theyre guard fighting on their blue speedhacking moving shot archers/dismounters, maybe you should make one zarc.


Do I detect an excuse???

 

[Seduction]

LOL way to server hop shadow and as for your friend Ezra to bad he didn't have as good of server hopping skills as you..I took a picture, it lasted longer

 

[Trinsauce]

ROOKIE... U don't post pictures of killing someone with the help of another player... Jeez... WTF is going on here... Seduction is talking [censored] like she can do anything on her own yet clearly the picture shows differently...

 

[Seduction]

Well dear considering Ezra and Shadow both said "I can own you both" I felt that we had bragging rights on that one! You don't see shadow in the screenshot cause he was to busy server hopping and recalling out... good way to own NEITHER!

 

[hi im shadow]

uh, so i was on foot getting a pet res so u come in with ur 2 gimps and FAIL at killing a regular mage ON foot. yea uh GJ? u got the tamer?

 

[Seduction]

LOLOLOL you got away because you jumped server better then KMS does

 

[hi im shadow]

ur complaining because u were fighting a mage on foot...while u had 2 gimps and still couldnt kill me because i was serverlining...first of all u would of done the same thing if it was ur case. and im glad ur so proud to post a screeny of killing a tamer
NICE!

 

[Seduction]

No babe sorry.. the reason I posted the screen shot was because you both ran your mouths. Next time think before speaking!

 

[hi im shadow]

yes, i did, i was going to get a pet res and come back.keep postin pics of killin trammy chars, you will never be able to kill me on any of ur chars
lol

 

[Seduction]

Well then you need to open your eyes because I have killed you several times on Seduction and you were on Legacy of Dope. Wanna deny?

 

[Seduction]

Never owned you on any of my chars hmm....

 

[hi im shadow]

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Well then you need to open your eyes because I have killed you several times on Seduction and you were on Legacy of Dope. Wanna deny?

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u talking about by urself?
or in ganks?
:&lt; also in that pic i really doubt u could kill me with a regular archer against that guy. cuz i seldomly see you pvp without ur bf. but if u did actually kill by urself (highly doubted) then kudos to u..
but im always available for some money fights if u really think ur better
^^

 

[Seduction]

HAHA.. gotta share this with you. Strung Out said as we were chatting in vent while posting that screen shot that your response was going to be DUEL FOR MILS! lolol Thanks for the laugh and proving him right!

 

[Seduction]

 

[hi im shadow]

hell we could just field fight or duel for fun for all i care. u wont reject that now will u? or what will ur excuse be this time?:&lt;