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[Selling] Siege Perilous

Tanivar

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Nope, just Landreu standing outside the shard limits, holding his pitchfork and torch.
Not my style, I'm more into futility talking sense at people so set in their ways they can't cope with the idea of improvements because it would mean something being different. As a rule sense does sink in eventually past the fixations if your persistent. Even mountains eventually wear away. :)
 

kelmo

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*smiles* I am likely one of the most mediocre (can that even happen?) of decorators. I am even worse at house design. It does not stop me from trying though. I did not design the Abyss house. I just left it just as the shard bought it. I change the deco and furniture every now and again. I do what I can when I am in the mood to just move stuff around.

I have no clue what Famine and a couple of others have might have locked away. *shrugs* I have walked through many collections. It as still a collection of pixels.

If ya wanna see some nice houses, take a walk though Gilfane. There are many other talented folk that make do with what we got.

We have a different sort of mindset here, I guess. I hope you will reconsider and give the Siege Deco style a chance. Trust me, I appreciate a well placed vine way more than a two story dancing statue.
 

Victim of Siege

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This is that vet mindset and logic. Wanting deco in a deco starved land will lead to wanting to shut off pvp? Keep in mind the Risk is a big part of Siege's draw to players tired of prodo like I am. That comment will serve it's purpose though and rile up some people who didn't rile up at the mere thought of change. There nightly gatherings of players with pitchforks and torches outside Landreu's house these days? :eek2:

:)
I really love it when people lump all us Vets together as the "problem" with the shard *chuckles*
 

Kattasrophe

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I did not even give VvV a test until a couple weeks ago. I am seeing some battles brewing out there. Herds are learning to be packs... The killing ground is even without vending machine artifacts. Non Combatants become combatants if they become involved. Lots of cool deco. *chuckles*
Deco?! did someone say Deco?! sorry had to pop into the discussion :p
 

FrejaSP

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Deco?! did someone say Deco?! sorry had to pop into the discussion :p
The VvV banners are really cool, sure worth the time it take to hang out in the towns to get them.

Maybe all them, who have a problem with the orange flag, just should stop carry about the color and go VvV. Yes the now blue ex PK's will still kill, but alot more Virtue guilds won't. The banners should sell for a nice price and you can claim alters, while doing some other town stuff.
 

Uvtha

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Keep in mind the Risk is a big part of Siege's draw to players tired of prodo like I am.
And yet you want to allow people to get all of their deco off shard, with no risk. Even to the point of creating Uhall threads and petitioning Messana about it.

This is that vet mindset and logic.
Will you stop with this "evil vet" nonsense?
 

Marisa Kirisame

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I wanted to write a few proclaims about rares' rarity being a fundament of rich's power above the poor, and this being the reason of their resistance, but the ******** tapatalk would fail to connect to the forums and hence the large text is lost. ********!
 

Uvtha

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I wanted to write a few proclaims about rares' rarity being a fundament of rich's power above the poor, and this being the reason of their resistance, but the ******** tapatalk would fail to connect to the forums and hence the large text is lost. ********!
I don't think that's the case since there have been people in this very thread that to best of my knowledge are not rich, I personally would be happy to give up my rares to make the shard better, and would have zero issue with rare/decos being available on THIS shard at an easier rate. I would be all for rubble items, event items, heritage tokens, whatever being available as drops on hard monsters or as some kind of tot/blackthorn style trade in.

It seems to me its more of an issue of people who got rich on OTHER shards with easier rulsets and want to just transfer those riches over here rather than play the shard and work for them like everyone else here did.

The beautiful thing about siege (and video games in general) is that unlike real life there is a truly egalitarian footing between players. We all have the exact same capabilities and limitations, the only thing that differentiates individuals is willingness to put in the time and effort for whatever particular thing they want. The "rich" have very little power over the "poor", because no one has needs, and resources and currency are not only infinite but easily attainable. The ONLY thing rich people can do is not sell you rare items, but then again, the poor can do that too, because no one NEEDS gold.

Everyone on this shard started out a newb with 1000 coins, and some random starter items.

Go out, earn 100m (its really not that hard) and start making contacts with players, and posting buying threads on stractics. That's how everyone else does it, why should the rules of the shard be altered to suit people who are unwilling to do what everyone else did? Yes, its harder to find those items now a days because there are fewer players, but if you are persistent you will get them eventually. The only probably exceptions are event unique items, but you probably couldn't get those on other shard anyway.
 

FrejaSP

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I would be all for rubble items, event items, heritage tokens, whatever being available as drops on hard monsters or as some kind of tot/blackthorn style trade in.
I have an idea, add some of them to the VvV rewards, the the PvP'ers can fight like they love and pay the crafter and monster killers for new suits with deco items. That's much better than free VvV artifacts and will make non PvP'ers and PvP'ers depend of each others.
Also add some to Fisher, Traders and Hunter quests. to get players to move around in the land.
 

Uvtha

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I have an idea, add some of them to the VvV rewards, the the PvP'ers can fight like they love and pay the crafter and monster killers for new suits with deco items. That's much better than free VvV artifacts and will make non PvP'ers and PvP'ers depend of each others.
Also add some to Fisher, Traders and Hunter quests. to get players to move around in the land.
Sounds good. :D
 

Victim of Siege

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I don't think that's the case since there have been people in this very thread that to best of my knowledge are not rich, I personally would be happy to give up my rares to make the shard better, and would have zero issue with rare/decos being available on THIS shard at an easier rate. I would be all for rubble items, event items, heritage tokens, whatever being available as drops on hard monsters or as some kind of tot/blackthorn style trade in.

It seems to me its more of an issue of people who got rich on OTHER shards with easier rulsets and want to just transfer those riches over here rather than play the shard and work for them like everyone else here did.

The beautiful thing about siege (and video games in general) is that unlike real life there is a truly egalitarian footing between players. We all have the exact same capabilities and limitations, the only thing that differentiates individuals is willingness to put in the time and effort for whatever particular thing they want. The "rich" have very little power over the "poor", because no one has needs, and resources and currency are not only infinite but easily attainable. The ONLY thing rich people can do is not sell you rare items, but then again, the poor can do that too, because no one NEEDS gold.

Everyone on this shard started out a newb with 1000 coins, and some random starter items.

Go out, earn 100m (its really not that hard) and start making contacts with players, and posting buying threads on stractics. That's how everyone else does it, why should the rules of the shard be altered to suit people who are unwilling to do what everyone else did? Yes, its harder to find those items now a days because there are fewer players, but if you are persistent you will get them eventually. The only probably exceptions are event unique items, but you probably couldn't get those on other shard anyway.

I'm Pretty sure we all got 10000000000000000 gold back in '99 when us "Grumpy Evil" Vets started, I remember saying "where the heck am I gonna put it all, and when are the Newbs gonna get here so I can start belittling them"
 
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Uvtha

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I'm Pretty sure we all got 10000000000000000 gold back in '99 when us "Grumpy Evil" Vets started, I remember saying "where the heck am I gonna put it all, and when are the Newbs gonna get here so I can start belittling them"
Shhhh! I'm doing damage control!!!

We'll talk about this at the next Siege Vet Overlord meeting...
 

GarthGrey

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Why don't ya'll meet in game and chat instead of hitting f5 this early in the morning ? :p Grumpy vets are at their grumpiest at these hours.
 

kelmo

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Dread Lord

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I have no issue with getting new players, never have never will. What makes me "grumpy" is someone grouping all vets into one lump as the "problem" with the shard. *steals your popcorn*
 
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