Scripting and macroing out in the open

[imported_Goron]

lord god,
so lets say I am 100% someone is scripting (heck, lets say its ME on my other computer with a diff account that I page on) and a GM never shows up... ... see what I am getting at? THAT, is why i grief scripters. The GMs dont show up half the time because they are too busy responding to carebears whining about harrassment, and thus macroing takes a lower priority. That leaves me with no choice but to grief scripters. Luckily I play siege, so I can just kill them.

 

[imported_Lord GOD(GOD)]

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so lets say I am 100% someone is scripting (heck, lets say its ME on my other computer with a diff account that I page on)

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You could just log out.

(I do get what your saying, I just found that too funny not to put!)

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The GMs dont show up half the time because they are too busy responding to carebears

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I'm confused on that, your on siege isn't siege carebare free?

 

[imported_Goron]

I am fairly convinced that siege doesn't have server specific GMs. Until I am reasonably told otherwise, I am convinced that we get our GMs from other east coast shards. My reasoning behind this is many times GMs do not respond with siege specific information (example: they refer to production shard rulesets).
I may be wrong, but if i am right, that means 'our' GMs are busy on production shards.

And, yes, siege does have carebears

 

[imported_Lord GOD(GOD)]

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And, yes, siege does have carebears

[/ QUOTE ]

I feel like I've been lied to for years!

 

[imported_Skrag]

RTLFC

I scripted my necromancy to 110 on a boat a couple years ago. Since they've removed the old anti-macro code, last time I just made a spell macro, put on an LRC suit, jammed a penny behind the key to hold it down, and went to bed. Ownage.

Skill training in UO is torture and I refuse to do it. Go ahead and try to page on me, you self-righteous twits. It's never stopped me yet.

 

[Paris_Hilton]

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The Great Witch Hunt of Ultima Online.

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That's probably how the afk scripters look at it.



I see it as any of the following:




The Great Cheater Hunt.



The Great Scripter Hunt.



The Great Rule-Breaker Hunt.



I think that people who feel that they are "special" enough to deserve to get away with breaking the rules that OTHERS can play without breaking deserve some "special" treatment.

 

[Paris_Hilton]

"I agree you were. Running around looking for scripters sounds to me like EA needs to start paying to police there game."





Don't need to run around "looking for scripters".



Anyone who idocs regularly can tell you that. Idocers see you scripting in your house, if your script "hides" you we can still hear you tailoring or smithing and we might even see leather fly through the air.




Some people think they can set up their afk scripter safely in their far flung home because nobody goes there. They'd be wrong, because idocers as a whole visit every single house on the shard.



I know I reported a few house scripters back when I idoced (back when the GMs didn't bother checking on the scripters).



Now that the GMs seem to be doing their jobs again I will have to start idocing again.

I have a new neighbor next door to my Fel house who cheated in every way imaginable before I left to go play Wow and since my return has added a pouch with over 100k stones in it to his front steps.



(edit): *What I meant to say was that upon my return from Wow I noticed that my Fel neighbor had a new addition to his home, a pouch on his steps with over 100k stone in it....


Which leads me to believe that he took up scriptmining while I was away playing Wow.


But if we believe some people he was probably just raising his mining SKILL while afk.


Because...


he works 40 hours a week
goes to school
has a girlfriend
a baby
a dog
homework
he has to go potty
then of course hes got to be afk to eat a hot pocket
he HAS TO SLEEP sometime
take a shower once a week
balance his checkbook
take the trash out
play UO (no wait a script does that for him)
and maybe, just maybe, he has a website selling UO for cash that he must attend to.


Sure it's possible my neighbor is just scriptmining AFK to raise his mining "skill", (and that he has 50 reasons that he thinks are good enough that we should allow him to continue to do so), but it's just as possible that he is doing it in order to sell bulk ingots in Luna or for cash on some website.* (end edit)



I came back to UO from Wow the day after those Luna houses got burned and have not seen anyone go into my cheating neighbor's house, nor has the 100k stone pouch got any heavier.



The Luna house burnings probably have some scripters tiptoeing on eggshells for now, waiting until things blow over to restart their operations.



The UO community needs to make sure that things DON'T ever blow over.




*Sorry large edit between the asteriks*

 

[Guest]

Its against the t.o.s. that we all ticked to abide by so i cannot see how any afk scripter can complain about being paged on.
the problem is that so many games cater to the instantly have what you want genre. uo isnt an immediate gratification game.
why should someone be able to work a skill afk. alot of us have worked skills and when u get a gm or legendary then there is a sense of achievement. imho too that alot of the skills scripters wake up to their gm-legendary skill and frankly have no idea how to use those skills.
its against the rules - period so cant see how someone can argue its ok, its against the rules full stop.

 

[Guest]

You can keep your pat on the back,I`ll just take the mill check.I can use that to WORK my skills.
As for any arguement bout 14 hours blah blah blah,well if they weren`t cheatin....they got nothing to worry about.I`ve been autologged at WBB before in the wee hours of the night,so ya can save that arguement as well.

Its funny really,me bein bashed by well..... you know.

 

[Flanuva101]

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"I agree you were. Running around looking for scripters sounds to me like EA needs to start paying to police there game."





Don't need to run around "looking for scripters".



Anyone who idocs regularly can tell you that. Idocers see you scripting in your house, if your script "hides" you we can still hear you tailoring or smithing and we might even see leather fly through the air.




Some people think they can set up their afk scripter safely in their far flung home because nobody goes there. They'd be wrong, because idocers as a whole visit every single house on the shard.



I know I reported a few house scripters back when I idoced (back when the GMs didn't bother checking on the scripters).



Now that the GMs seem to be doing their jobs again I will have to start idocing again.

I have a new neighbor next door to my Fel house who cheated in every way imaginable before I left to go play Wow and since my return has added a pouch with over 100k stones in it to his front steps.



(edit): *What I meant to say was that upon my return from Wow I noticed that my Fel neighbor had a new addition to his home, a pouch on his steps with over 100k stone in it....


Which leads me to believe that he took up scriptmining while I was away playing Wow.


But if we believe some people he was probably just raising his mining SKILL while afk.


Because...


he works 40 hours a week
goes to school
has a girlfriend
a baby
a dog
homework
he has to go potty
then of course hes got to be afk to eat a hot pocket
he HAS TO SLEEP sometime
take a shower once a week
balance his checkbook
take the trash out
play UO (no wait a script does that for him)
and maybe, just maybe, he has a website selling UO for cash that he must attend to.


Sure it's possible my neighbor is just scriptmining AFK to raise his mining "skill", (and that he has 50 reasons that he thinks are good enough that we should allow him to continue to do so), but it's just as possible that he is doing it in order to sell bulk ingots in Luna or for cash on some website.* (end edit)



I came back to UO from Wow the day after those Luna houses got burned and have not seen anyone go into my cheating neighbor's house, nor has the 100k stone pouch got any heavier.



The Luna house burnings probably have some scripters tiptoeing on eggshells for now, waiting until things blow over to restart their operations.



The UO community needs to make sure that things DON'T ever blow over.




*Sorry large edit between the asteriks*





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It is just amazing that you think everyone is cheating or scripting just because of a heavy bag on the steps. ( even though they might have been ).

I do agree however there are things that need to be done with the scripters and cheaters in UO.

 

[jabba123]

I have two words for all you holier than thou GM pagers....DIRTY RATS...where i come from rats, narcs and informers don't get any respect...they get dealt with...so sit safely and secure there behind your PC...but the next time you exceede the speed limit, tell that little white lie, or whatever skeleton you have in your closet...remember you're no better than anyone else on this planet.

Oh, and yes alot of us do have Jobs, family, households to upkeep and tons of other responsabilities...im not saying its a license to cheat but have a little respect, compasion, and understanding. All in all LEARN TO MIND YOUR OWN BUISINESS.

 

[Paris_Hilton]

"It is just amazing that you think everyone is cheating or scripting just because of a heavy bag on the steps. ( even though they might have been )."




I learned what bags weighing lots and lots of stones (for instance, 125,675 stones), locked down on someone's steps means from reading about script miners here.



But yeah I think that's what it is because I KNOW he cheats, already been proved to me when I killed him tailoring and the whole while I cast on him he kept right on tailoring and never moved once. He did eventually log out after awhile though, still dead.

 

[Guest]

funny but I am not a scriptor but I have 1.75 million board in a chest on my front steps. I have them because I sold a Keep and used a lot of the gold to buy the boards from other people. I do the heartwood fletching and carpentry quests and always use a lot of boards. So just because someone have a container weighing an outrageous amount does not mean they are a scriptor.

 

[Connor_Graham]

"I learned what bags weighing lots and lots of stones (for instance, 125,675 stones), locked down on someone's steps means"

Then you might as well go ahead and page on me for the 80k stone (and rising by 20k per day) box of mine so we can get it out of the way and the GM's time won't need to be wasted. I'll be at my house filling powder Bods for the next couple of hours, hidden while doing so...

You've passed right on by jumping to conclusions and are now double dutching them...

 

[Guest]

I doubt anyone pages and targets the heavy chest...

Though I know there are some games where you maybe would page on someone having a large chest, but I'm not talking the sort that's overloaded with ore

Wenchy

 

[Stigmatas]

Phear nawt, Paris Hilton is on the case! It's Hawt!

Jumping to conclusions 4tw?

Why don't you pagers go do something worthwhile like I do. Go kill script miners in Fel. They are very easy to tell, and even easier to kill! (sometimes

)

 

[imported_ParadoxUO]

February:
46 characters reported...
3 perma bans.

March:
Just beginning...

 

[Guest]

Some of us do that too

Wenchy

 

[Arcus]

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So people who are concerned about the cheating/scripting that´s going on in this game are just people who "have nothing better to do"?

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There is no means for any player to know wether or not someone is attended short of being in the same room irl. So yeah when it comes down to it their often wasting their time.

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The way I see it, there´s two types of players in this game:
1. The honest people.
2. The cheating people.

[/ QUOTE ]

Thats a very narrow way of seeing it. There also people who think their being an honest player but when they've paged and not got the answer they wanted (regardless of not having any proof) will start harassing someone.

<blockquote><hr>

I think I know which side you´re on...

[/ QUOTE ]

I expect you do, like most other players you assume your right. When a GM shows up accepts that I'm attended and leaves it's a shame the person paging can't accept it and usually starts harassing me, causing me to have to page on them, as their harassment is usually in the journal action gets taken.

You call it an excuse that I don't want to talk to people when training. If it's an excuse that would imply I need to justify what I'm doing to someone, as that someone will never be another player that can only mean it was given to a GM. So if they were unattended how would they give the excuse? If they were unattended the GM would have taken action. Which would be the case resolved. As your not informed of that action your only way of knowing if a GM does something is if the player suddenly dissapears. If the player doesn't dissapear you (probably) like most players will assume the GM either didn't check or was wrong and start griefing the player. Making you worse than they are.

[/ QUOTE ]


Spoken like a true scripter.

 

[Guest]

Well said infact everyone on Uhall needs to learn to play the game instead of playing game police! If the Gm's wanna do anything about the scripters they will mindless accusations against people who just may be generally ignoring you does nothing to help.casting for 5 hours they must be scripting haha give me a break.Simply use last spell delay delay delay target self set to space bar lay some thing heavey on space bar and read a book sitting at ya comp.Not all people are scripters but people contineously harrass people just so they can hopefully one day get a gm to show up and say hey your right they are scripting have a cookie!

Do yourselves a favor leave people alone and mind your own buisness for a change.This is the main problem with the game now is too many nosey ass people all ways in others buisness.And unless you have hard core proof there scripting you may infact find your self being the one banned for harrassment.

 

[Guest]

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Surely there's a huge difference between somebody macroing up some skills and somebody macroing to make RL money. I'm sure the GMs have better things to do than spend time on the first category, and I don't see how reporting them can be described as "doing some good". I'd call it wasting GM time.

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"Surely there's a huge difference between somebody macroing up some skills and somebody macroing to make RL money."





Well I don't know how to tell if they are macroing blacksmithing "skill" while afk or filling blacksmith bods so they can get a valorite runic hammer to sell for 30 mill ($2 per gold = $60 real cash).




The smithing sounds for doing both things sound the same.



You don't think the guys/girls macroing afk filling bods don't sell the runics for real life cash?



How to prove the character who is afk "skill gaining" isn't someone power leveling a character for real life money?




Best rule of thumb for the afker's:


Don't.


Best rule for everyone else:


Page on them, if they are attended, then no harm done.



I expect that the scripters who are paged on most get checked by the GMs and those who get paged on only once tend to be ignored.

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HAHA your right i script and get paged on alot but ya know im acctually at my comp doing this i dont talk to people its a hassel to start and stop scripts every time some noob thinks hes a UO cop.But hell i know most of the GM's on my shard by afirst name basis now ive seen them so much.They pop in i stop script say hey Bob how are ya they say not bad just checking in got a page on ya.I say yeah im here and no im not scripting.Gm leaves i start back script and back to reading my book.The only thing this whole process did was waste bobs time.

And no bob is not a real name of a gm to my knowledge just an example

 

[imported_ParadoxUO]

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...people contineously harrass people just so they can hopefully one day get a gm to show up and say hey your right they are scripting have a cookie!

[/ QUOTE ]

And when you see the GMs on a daily base and the cookie jar is already full? we get apple pies after?

 

[Guest]

<blockquote><hr>

February:
46 characters reported...
3 perma bans.

March:
Just beginning...

[/ QUOTE ]

And how would you know this Unless the GM's are telling you what action they took? Sounds like a load of BS to me.

 

[Guest]

<blockquote><hr>

I have two words for all you holier than thou GM pagers....DIRTY RATS...where i come from rats, narcs and informers don't get any respect...they get dealt with...so sit safely and secure there behind your PC...but the next time you exceede the speed limit, tell that little white lie, or whatever skeleton you have in your closet...remember you're no better than anyone else on this planet.

Oh, and yes alot of us do have Jobs, family, households to upkeep and tons of other responsabilities...im not saying its a license to cheat but have a little respect, compasion, and understanding. All in all LEARN TO MIND YOUR OWN BUISINESS.

[/ QUOTE ]

So if you cheat, no one should say anything? Ahh.

That makes no sense.

 

[Guest]

Well, I certainly don't condone scripting and cheating or AFK macroing.

At the same time, I'm not going to spend my playtime worrying about policing the game, either. I don't pay my subscription fees to worry about what other players are doing.

 

[Widowtaker]

I script everything. Period, end of story. After 10+ years of playing, I am never ever going to do the 1 million click thing to do anything, ever again. I don't sell stuff, everything I do is for myself only. I don't feel one lick of guilt. I am happy that I am avoiding carpels. Anyone who has a problem with it can stuff it.

 

[Yenji Yasagari]

Seriously no one hunts scripters? Hell, I make it a habit to walk around on Fel ATL, and hunt down miners, LJers, and people just AFKing with reg suits in their house. Everyone forgets the ole corner piece, made someone lose a rather nice LRC MR LMC suit yesterday, as I saw them today, naked in the house.

 

[Return2UO]

What I would really like to see is a three strike a perma banned. No messing about. Just three chances and then the accounts deleted with no chance of appeal. If you waste a GMs time by paging on someone who isn't scripting or unattended three times then your account is toast.

Perhaps that will stop people wasting GMs time and allow them to get on with doing proper work.

Yes. Page for people scripting for gold and resources but to page against people who are trying to gain skills to enjoy the game is cutting your nose off to spite your face. All the posts about people leaving the game and when people return and try to change their characters to let them play again they have you goons pulling them for it are you surprised they quit again.

And before you try the whole "Well he may be training smithing or he could be scripting BODs, you never know!!" This is the worst argument ever. Its the same as me punching you in the face because you might attack me one day and I want to be sure I get you for it.

Most people who complain also seem to be the same people who are standing at the sidelines with there own crafters waiting to inflate prices further once the evil scripting competition has been banned and their own BOD rewards can be sold.

In the whole scope of things, I would rather time was spent fixing bugs and adding content then checking someone isn't macro'ing a skill and wanting to play this game.

 

[Guest]

Easy solution for skill scripters: Make skill gain via normal methods both faster, more entertaining, and more viable.

I'll bet the amount of afk skill scripters would go down dramatically... maybe not though... guess training while you're sleeping could be too much of a pull.

 

[Return2UO]

I couldn't agree more.

Though all the games I've played I found Eves timed skill curve the best. You know how long each section would take and it meant everyone, regardless of how long they played each day gained skills at the same rate.

For those not familar with this method or in case it changed since I played it...Each skill was split into different levels similar to novice, journeyman, expect, GM, Legendary. You would speak to an NPC to request a skill gain to the next level and each level would have a real life timer. Lower ranks would be minutes. Higher levels days / weeks. The timer was real life so it gained while you where logged out.

You could only learn one or two skills at the same time and could change between the skills your where learning at the time.

 

[Paris_Hilton]

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funny but I am not a scriptor but I have 1.75 million board in a chest on my front steps. I have them because I sold a Keep and used a lot of the gold to buy the boards from other people. I do the heartwood fletching and carpentry quests and always use a lot of boards. So just because someone have a container weighing an outrageous amount does not mean they are a scriptor.

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I "quoteth" myself:



"But yeah I think that's what it is because I KNOW he cheats, already been proved to me when I killed him tailoring and the whole while I cast on him he kept right on tailoring and never moved once."



Hey I THOUGHT I SAID that I KNEW he was a cheater long before the pouch of many stones showed up on his doorstep and wow, I REALLY DID SAY THAT.

 

[nineninefour]

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This whole "I was attended but I chose to ignore the person" just seems like a bad excuse an unattended person would use...

[/ QUOTE ]

YES.

You win Stratics.

 

[Olahorand]

Sometimes people calling a GM accusing somebody being unattended because they do not respond do nothing else than denounce the target person for whatever.
Denouncing has especially in the German history a real bad reputation - so you will not find too many who find this a good activity.

 

[imported_ParadoxUO]

<blockquote><hr>

<blockquote><hr>

February:
46 characters reported...
3 perma bans.

March:
Just beginning...

[/ QUOTE ]

And how would you know this Unless the GM's are telling you what action they took? Sounds like a load of BS to me.

[/ QUOTE ]


Actually we had the owners of the characters sending icqs and cussing.
Catskills... like most shards, is a very small sphere... specially when you are part of a guild that covers everything...

Safe gaming, dont let the "cookie monster" get you!

 

[imported_ParadoxUO]

<blockquote><hr>

Easy solution for skill scripters: Make skill gain via normal methods both faster, more entertaining, and more viable.

[/ QUOTE ]

Alacrity scrolls at the ilshenar/tokuno champ spawns?

 

[imported_Goron]

<blockquote><hr>

I couldn't agree more.

Though all the games I've played I found Eves timed skill curve the best. You know how long each section would take and it meant everyone, regardless of how long they played each day gained skills at the same rate.

For those not familar with this method or in case it changed since I played it...Each skill was split into different levels similar to novice, journeyman, expect, GM, Legendary. You would speak to an NPC to request a skill gain to the next level and each level would have a real life timer. Lower ranks would be minutes. Higher levels days / weeks. The timer was real life so it gained while you where logged out.

You could only learn one or two skills at the same time and could change between the skills your where learning at the time.

[/ QUOTE ]
So you are asking for something like RoT? Oh wait, we already have that on Siege and thats the reason 90% of you don't play there because you are too impatient to raise a character for 3 months before maxing it out...

 

[imported_ParadoxUO]

<blockquote><hr>

Sometimes people calling a GM accusing somebody being unattended because they do not respond do nothing else than denounce the target person for whatever.
Denouncing has especially in the German history a real bad reputation - so you will not find too many who find this a good activity.

[/ QUOTE ]


But it sure worked on the Olympic Games...

 

[Return2UO]

<blockquote><hr>

So you are asking for something like RoT? Oh wait, we already have that on Siege and thats the reason 90% of you don't play there because you are too impatient to raise a character for 3 months before maxing it out...

[/ QUOTE ]

I think anything that removes the mindlessness of skill training is a good thing. This is a ten year old game which needs to get new players. While I would never suggest that we had test shard skill mechanics on regular shards, we need something to either make it easier or better than the current method.

You want to train alchemy? sure! Go make thousands of potions! Remember to keep you UO macro key pressed! Taming you say, sure, go tame hundreds of animals, most of which you'll have to release and then kill to gain as these have no real game play purpose.

 

[imported_ParadoxUO]

Salutations...

How can we improve the skill gain system?
Ideas?

Hum, how does it work now? Item based? Target Based? Success based?

I had no problems finishing my mage/necro/sw or my bushido/archer/paladin...
I am having issues working my crafter, tamer and bard... making items is boring, but i'll gain skill while filling bods, taming is fun... explore and tame... tame and explore... music is easy, discordance is nasty. (no pets in my house!)

 

[Guest]

Well Widowtaker,

Using 3rd party prog`s like scripts are illegal,period. Props if your actually there at the screen while running your cheat prog,but nonetheless your still cheating.

UO was never meant to be played in god mode with scripts.Things are meant to be mundane after 100 times of doing it so rare things stay rare,or semi rare.If its not that fun,than maybe someone will only do a quest 5-10 times a day,would bring alot more enjoyment to actually getting sumthing nice.Instead of peaple cheating their way into ingots,barb,fletch,runic kits etc. and 100`s of millions of gold.

All you self proclaimed non cheating attended scripters are just as guilty as the unattended scum that plagues UO. Don`t feel like clicking 1 million times? Do something else,pirty simple.If the game has become so hard on you that you just can`t bear to click on a couple buttons,you need to go elsewhere. Hell would be my first choice,but any other MMORPG will do.

All the whinning about "oh i work alot Oh I have a life Oh I just don`t have the time" bah,BS. Save your lame excuses for cheating for the red robe judge.

 

[imported_ParadoxUO]

<blockquote><hr>

red robe judge.

[/ QUOTE ]

Hum? Care to elaborate?
The Spanish Inquisition has a red cloak...

 

[Guest]

Red Robes are here.Some peaple say they don`t exist,but be assured they do.I`ve seen their works first hand,from magically changing a perverse or ignorant name to dispatching real justice and making someone straight up disappear.

 

[imported_ParadoxUO]

I still dont get it... red robes are the GMs... i have understood that much... but they never show up... so why red robes?

 

[Connor_Graham]

"but they never show up"

I've almost always had a GM show when I've paged. Guess it all depends on what you're paging for.

 

[imported_ParadoxUO]

They show up?

All I ever got was a new chat option... using [ instead of the usual party or guild or alliance option...

 

[Paris_Hilton]

<blockquote><hr>

Phear nawt, Paris Hilton is on the case! It's Hawt!

Jumping to conclusions 4tw?

Why don't you pagers go do something worthwhile like I do. Go kill script miners in Fel. They are very easy to tell, and even easier to kill! (sometimes

)

[/ QUOTE ]




My neighbor with all those stones lives next door to my Fel house, was afk tailoring and I DID KILL HIM on that char.



If you were tailoring while PRESENT ingame in your Fel house and someone attacked you from outside, you would stop tailoring and MOVE out of harms way and not die to a nonpvpers char who has 0 eval takes 2-3 minutes to kill you with spells.


Not seen anyone near the house in the time I've been back from Wow (the day after the Luna burnings).


Until yesterday.


See, we have a little problem here.


With so few players in UO these days, it is very easy to find house plots.


In less than a week back from Wow I placed a keep in Trammel on Pac.


So why does this cheater place right next door to a plot I own?


His house of cheating is blocking my future castle by a few tiles.


So maybe he thinks NOBODY cares if he cheats. (If he reads some of the posts here he might get that attitude).


But he'd be wrong.


I have an excellent reason to care.


If he's caught cheating (three times?) and banned his house will go bye bye and I will be REWARDED with a castle.


What would I rather have in UO?


A cheater or a castle?


Tough choice.

 

[imported_Coppelia]

<blockquote><hr>

Just leave the guy who works a 40 hour week, has a baby and GF, and who also goes to school alone while he trains his chivalry up.

[/ QUOTE ]
Exactly what Dermott says about buying gold with RL money.
Same argument, yet EA makes them two different things and Dermott approves. Why? You already know too much. "They" are listening.

 

[nineninefour]

<blockquote><hr>

So just because someone [has] a container weighing an outrageous amount [on their doorstep] does not mean they are a scriptor.

[/ QUOTE ]

You're kidding, right? That's a joke? Tell me that's a joke.

Way to argue with a factual statement with the 0.0000000001% anomaly. You're probably one of maybe 2 guys that plays, has ever played, or ever will play this game that serves as an example of this goofy statement.

EDIT: Sorry for being a jerk about this, that gets into me sometimes. I get all puffy and posture and try to show off my 10 post count or whatever, haha. Let me sincerely say "My bad, sorry" and come back at this with a little more level-headed tact.

What I meant to say was, while you do present a valid point, it is kind of irrelevant to try to make a counterpoint using an extremely exceptional example. It kind of presents a nullified point, you know what I mean?

I left the original post to show other readers that 1) attacking people on the board isn't okay, we're all family here, and 2) If you do slip and get a little big-headed, have can have courage to come back around and admit you were wrong about it.

 

[Olahorand]

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So just because someone [has] a container weighing an outrageous amount [on their doorstep] does not mean they are a scriptor.

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You're kidding, right? That's a joke? Tell me that's a joke.

Way to argue with a factual statement with the 0.0000000001% anomaly. You're probably one of maybe 2 guys that plays, has ever played, or ever will play this game that serves as an example of this goofy statement.

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I live in Felucca (double resources).
My house is in the middle of a forest.
I cut regulary wood (both in front of my house and somewhere else), but it is too tedious to convert all logs to boards/move them away (what for at all?)
So all my wood stocks is located in a pouch on my doorsteps.
And non gotten with other scripts than UOA scripts.
So the weight is not small, but noting which has to do with scripting.
*Salute*
Olahorand

 

[Connor_Graham]

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So just because someone [has] a container weighing an outrageous amount [on their doorstep] does not mean they are a scriptor.

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You're kidding, right? That's a joke? Tell me that's a joke.

Way to argue with a factual statement with the 0.0000000001% anomaly. You're probably one of maybe 2 guys that plays, has ever played, or ever will play this game that serves as an example of this goofy statement.

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I guess I'm the other one then. My lumber box is up over 126k stones now, and that doesn't even include the 80k that I put on my vendor, nor the 20k of Frostwood I've got sitting in the bank.