Replica drop rate

[Ministone]

Want to know why most of you are getting nothing? Its because most of you are all slow, dull trammies who spawn in huge groups with many many other random newbies casting random EVs and expecting to get an item. Get some courage and go to fel. Learn to defend yourself and stop being pancakes cattle. 4 man despise takes about 10 minutes or less...

I have been 2 manning to 6 manning spawns. We have done no more than 30 spawns and got a lot. Its rather easy to get the replicas. A lot of the comments like "i've done 50 solo spawns and got nothing" are complete trammel lies/tales. THE SPAWNS HAVE A SET % DROP WRITTEN IN THE GAME CODE. It is not broken as my guild has got replicas in line with the statistics. I believe less than 5% of the things that come from trammies as most are complete idiots and do not understand the game mechanics. Well its obvious most of them are idiots as they enjoy mindless tasks like bashing dragons or mining for hours on end. They mays well push a leaver at a factory as its just as entertaining. However I imagine a lot do this IRL given the quality of posts and rubbish here.

Do you really expect high end items to be given to you for sitting at a trammel champ spawn altars while you bank sit and toss in a few EVs every now and then? Crying trammies ruined UO.

IMO these items should only exist in fel, as its a risk reward situation. "Paragons" are a risk, lol bloody simple tram.

 

[Maplestone]

with such charming personalities as yourself to play with Ministone, I can't imagine why I avoid Fel

(despite my anti-Fel bias, personally, as long as there are regularly people working the Humility spawn in Ilshenar, I'm happy, even if I'm just chasing a dream - it's fun to be able to finally participate in a champ spawn)

 

[Dragkiris]

I got a replica on my 3rd spawn. Then I promplty sold it for 30 mil. Only thing I haev use for is teh gaurd sash.

 

[Lady Arwen]

This may be a dumb question that Im sure was answered in other threads maby even in this thread.. didnt read the whole thing but, Do you get replicas from the Ilsh champ spawns, or just the scrolls from ilsh ?

 

[Maplestone]

replicas in Ilsh too, yes.

 

[Speedy Orkit]

What about the Siege Perilous players that will be using these weapons as throw aways? Shouldn't the drop rate of all ML arties etc be raised there?

 

[HD2300]

IMO these items should only exist in fel, as its a risk reward situation. "Paragons" are a risk, lol bloody simple tram.

I thought the best played Seige, not production shards.

Big picture in regards to reward systems, the balance was perfect 2 years ago when PvPers provided the powerscrolls and PvMers provided the gear. Now the only decent time reward situation left for PvMers are strongboxes. If I was a beancounter at EA, I would provide more content for the majority of subscribers, not give them scraps.

 

[Heartseeker]

"Want to know why most of you are getting nothing? Its because most of you are all slow, dull trammies who spawn in huge groups with many many other random newbies casting random EVs and expecting to get an item. Get some courage and go to fel. Learn to defend yourself and stop being pancakes cattle. 4 man despise takes about 10 minutes or less...

I have been 2 manning to 6 manning spawns. We have done no more than 30 spawns and got a lot. Its rather easy to get the replicas. A lot of the comments like "i've done 50 solo spawns and got nothing" are complete trammel lies/tales. THE SPAWNS HAVE A SET % DROP WRITTEN IN THE GAME CODE. It is not broken as my guild has got replicas in line with the statistics. I believe less than 5% of the things that come from trammies as most are complete idiots and do not understand the game mechanics. Well its obvious most of them are idiots as they enjoy mindless tasks like bashing dragons or mining for hours on end. They mays well push a leaver at a factory as its just as entertaining. However I imagine a lot do this IRL given the quality of posts and rubbish here.

Do you really expect high end items to be given to you for sitting at a trammel champ spawn altars while you bank sit and toss in a few EVs every now and then? Crying trammies ruined UO.

IMO these items should only exist in fel, as its a risk reward situation. "Paragons" are a risk, lol bloody simple tram."



Getting tired of reading this crap.

Fell champ spawns and Fell are the joke.

I love to hear from many new pvper's on how Trammies this and Trammies that.

When real men played in Fell there was no insurance and it wasn't 10 on 1 clowns jumping you.

As far as spawns go, the ones in Ish are 100 times harder.

Sure you could get raided in Fell, but so what.

For all the hereos in Fell take off your insurance and see what real men played like.

As for teams in Trammel, many times it is 4 or 2 players that do the spawns so don't assume you know what the hell you're talking about.

 

[Arch Magus]

"Want to know why most of you are getting nothing? Its because most of you are all slow, dull trammies who spawn in huge groups with many many other random newbies casting random EVs and expecting to get an item. Get some courage and go to fel. Learn to defend yourself and stop being pancakes cattle. 4 man despise takes about 10 minutes or less...

I have been 2 manning to 6 manning spawns. We have done no more than 30 spawns and got a lot. Its rather easy to get the replicas. A lot of the comments like "i've done 50 solo spawns and got nothing" are complete trammel lies/tales. THE SPAWNS HAVE A SET % DROP WRITTEN IN THE GAME CODE. It is not broken as my guild has got replicas in line with the statistics. I believe less than 5% of the things that come from trammies as most are complete idiots and do not understand the game mechanics. Well its obvious most of them are idiots as they enjoy mindless tasks like bashing dragons or mining for hours on end. They mays well push a leaver at a factory as its just as entertaining. However I imagine a lot do this IRL given the quality of posts and rubbish here.

Do you really expect high end items to be given to you for sitting at a trammel champ spawn altars while you bank sit and toss in a few EVs every now and then? Crying trammies ruined UO.

IMO these items should only exist in fel, as its a risk reward situation. "Paragons" are a risk, lol bloody simple tram."



Getting tired of reading this crap.

Fell champ spawns and Fell are the joke.

I love to hear from many new pvper's on how Trammies this and Trammies that.

When real men played in Fell there was no insurance and it wasn't 10 on 1 clowns jumping you.

As far as spawns go, the ones in Ish are 100 times harder.

Sure you could get raided in Fell, but so what.

For all the hereos in Fell take off your insurance and see what real men played like.

As for teams in Trammel, many times it is 4 or 2 players that do the spawns so don't assume you know what the hell you're talking about.

HA.

I was going to say how I thought you knew what you were talking about.......then I got half-way down your post where you actually started talking.....lol

 

[Arch Magus]

Want to know why most of you are getting nothing? Its because most of you are all slow, dull trammies who spawn in huge groups with many many other random newbies casting random EVs and expecting to get an item. Get some courage and go to fel. Learn to defend yourself and stop being pancakes cattle. 4 man despise takes about 10 minutes or less...

I have been 2 manning to 6 manning spawns. We have done no more than 30 spawns and got a lot. Its rather easy to get the replicas. A lot of the comments like "i've done 50 solo spawns and got nothing" are complete trammel lies/tales. THE SPAWNS HAVE A SET % DROP WRITTEN IN THE GAME CODE. It is not broken as my guild has got replicas in line with the statistics. I believe less than 5% of the things that come from trammies as most are complete idiots and do not understand the game mechanics. Well its obvious most of them are idiots as they enjoy mindless tasks like bashing dragons or mining for hours on end. They mays well push a leaver at a factory as its just as entertaining. However I imagine a lot do this IRL given the quality of posts and rubbish here.

Do you really expect high end items to be given to you for sitting at a trammel champ spawn altars while you bank sit and toss in a few EVs every now and then? Crying trammies ruined UO.

IMO these items should only exist in fel, as its a risk reward situation. "Paragons" are a risk, lol bloody simple tram.

Agree with every damned word of it.

 

[Mistura]

100 or more deaths doing 2 days of spawning? WOW!

What type of character are you using?

Its not surprising you've not got anything to show for your work as I would imagine you spend most of those two days as a ghost.



From what you've said above, I would tend to disagree with this statement.

I take a leg chiv archer or leg bush/chiv swordswoman when I go to the spawns in Humility (yes, I stick to that one, I don't like para dragons!). Both die regularly. Archer went down to para dread spider, para terathon matriarch, and para terathon avenger plus all their mates today. I couldn't actually move, and I got surrounded so fast I'd no chance of getting away. This is the archer that toes to toes with a DF, crosshealing with my hubby. Dead easy (pardon the pun) to die in spawn like this, and even easier to die getting body back after res. That's happened a few times too. I don't know how many times I've died, although I guess I've run through 500k + dying horribly gold since Saturday. It happens. But I don't think you can say someone is a bad player just because they die a lot - the spawn at some of these is a mare!

hehe... Hi Cailleach.

I understand where your coming from and i'm not trying to be mean, but I would say that excessive dying does suggest that a player is doing something wrong. I mean, its a computer game, Dying is the worst case scenario, something to be avoided at all costs, isn't it?

Although in UO these days, I think we forget this sometimes as there is really no consequence to it.

I agree that the spawn at these ilsh spawns is really tough and I have died my fair share of times.

That being said though, I was replying to someone who mentioned they were experiencing "excessive dying" but at the same time claiming that there is some kind of problem with the drop rate.

I would say that it stands to reason, if your spending half your time as a ghost looking for a rez, instead of killing the spawn and hitting the champ, your not going to be in with a good chance of getting a reward.

Rather than complaining on the boards about how the drop rate is too low, trying to get that changed, it might be worth looking at the way the spawn is being tackled. Perhaps a change of tactics might bear more fruit?

This is not directed at you, but at the person my response was aimed at originally.

 

[Cailleach]

Hehe, it's really hard sometimes. If I'm not with a group, I start on the edge and work my way in. Swords can handle, as a rule, a fair pile of low level stuff, using soulseeker and whirlwind attack. But when the next level pops, you can suddenly find yourself right in the middle of a whole lot of spawn with nowhere to go and little chance of being able to fight your way out. Getting wedged on the trees/rocks etc doesn't help. I think maybe this is what has happened to the original poster. If you're unlucky enough to be within range of 3 or 4 para's when a third level spawn pops, well, you're toast really, just as I was the other day. I've just bought and insured a tali of clean bandage summoning, which has saved me from dying too much getting my body back. You can use it while you dress and regen mana, then pop in pack ready for next time around.

I don't mind dying to spawn so much these days (used to really hate it). But I still think that the drop rate needs a bit of tweaking. I've done a reasonable number of spawns now, and while I've dropped 6 scrolls, I've still not got any other drops, even when it's just been me and a couple of other folks there.

 

[Mistura]

Yeah lol, I take your point about the level up, if you get caught in a bad place when the 3rd or 4th level spawns your more than likely ending up dead.

But I think thats one of the fundementals of doing a champ spawn. You need to be well aware of when the next level is about to pop and get yourself into the right position on the map. If your well positioned at level up you won't die.

Occasionally you will bite of a bit more than you can chew when working your way into thick spawn - you end up dead. But, when that happens you need to just regroup and learn from the mistake, working your way back in more gradually.

I've not done that many spawns since 57 went live so can't say for sure whether I feel the drop rate needs tweaked or not, but from what i'm reading I would say it seems right.

 

[Cailleach]

Yeah lol, I take your point about the level up, if you get caught in a bad place when the 3rd or 4th level spawns your more than likely ending up dead.

But I think thats one of the fundementals of doing a champ spawn. You need to be well aware of when the next level is about to pop and get yourself into the right position on the map. If your well positioned at level up you won't die.

Occasionally you will bite of a bit more than you can chew when working your way into thick spawn - you end up dead. But, when that happens you need to just regroup and learn from the mistake, working your way back in more gradually.

I've not done that many spawns since 57 went live so can't say for sure whether I feel the drop rate needs tweaked or not, but from what i'm reading I would say it seems right.

As a mage, I've done a few champs in fel with my husband, day times when it's nice and quiet (though the legendary running away did come in handy a few times ) He does both fel and tram champs, depending on who is about, and seems to think the drop rate isn't quite right. He also says the fel drop rate is a bit screwy atm. *shrugs* who knows?

 

[GalenKnighthawke]

Want to know why most of you are getting nothing? Its because most of you are all slow, dull trammies who spawn in huge groups with many many other random newbies casting random EVs and expecting to get an item. Get some courage and go to fel. Learn to defend yourself and stop being pancakes cattle. 4 man despise takes about 10 minutes or less...

I have been 2 manning to 6 manning spawns. We have done no more than 30 spawns and got a lot. Its rather easy to get the replicas. A lot of the comments like "i've done 50 solo spawns and got nothing" are complete trammel lies/tales. THE SPAWNS HAVE A SET % DROP WRITTEN IN THE GAME CODE. It is not broken as my guild has got replicas in line with the statistics. I believe less than 5% of the things that come from trammies as most are complete idiots and do not understand the game mechanics. Well its obvious most of them are idiots as they enjoy mindless tasks like bashing dragons or mining for hours on end. They mays well push a leaver at a factory as its just as entertaining. However I imagine a lot do this IRL given the quality of posts and rubbish here.

Do you really expect high end items to be given to you for sitting at a trammel champ spawn altars while you bank sit and toss in a few EVs every now and then? Crying trammies ruined UO.

IMO these items should only exist in fel, as its a risk reward situation. "Paragons" are a risk, lol bloody simple tram.

*chuckles*

When I hear you insulting Trammies' intelligence I think of how many times I've had to explain to you Fellies that Ice Island, Ice East, Ice East, and Ice West are all different locations. And of how many times I've told people "Rats at Ice West" only to have them show up at the Undead champ spawn in Deceit, wondering where everyone is and where the slimes are.

-Galen's player

 

[Petrify]

*chuckles*

When I hear you insulting Trammies' intelligence I think of how many times I've had to explain to you Fellies that Ice Island, Ice East, Ice East, and Ice West are all different locations. And of how many times I've told people "Rats at Ice West" only to have them show up at the Undead champ spawn in Deceit, wondering where everyone is and where the slimes are.

-Galen's player

Ice East and Ice East? Damn that is confusing.

And I really doubt that they could be as stupid as to go to Deceit when you say West Ice. Unless they are trammies.

 

[GalenKnighthawke]

I've been surprised by how little these spawns have been done. I hadn't expected 24/7 camping, but the spawns have been done way less than I'd thought.

The Trammel-rules spawns are genuinely hard to do, PvM-wise. The Felucca-rules spawns, by comparison are extremely easy, even the higher-end spawns such as Abyss or Arachnid. Having done both Trammel-rules and Felucca-rules spawns a considerable amount over the last few days I cant definitely attest to this. Between Paragons and terrain in Ilshenar, and the unique characteristics of many of the other champ spawns, it makes things extremely difficult. I've had easier times at Harrower spawns than I've had the one time I've done the Bedlam champ.

I could have so attested before as well....I've just been reminded.

I understand now why the drop rate was higher in the original proposal. I think the team understands the game better than we often give them credit for, and correctly feared that the items would rapidly become Felucca-only, due to the fact that Felucca is so much easier as long as you're in a big guild.

Am I advocating for a higher drop rate? No, I guess not....Just saying I understand now why things were first proposed the way they were.

Time for the few-remaining high-end PvM Trammel-based guilds to step up....

Hopefully after the holidays, more people will be on and more of these spawns will be done.

-Galen's player

 

[GalenKnighthawke]

Ice East and Ice East? Damn that is confusing.

And I really doubt that they could be as stupid as to go to Deceit when you say West Ice. Unless they are trammies.

Yeah, typos are confusing. Of course there's still 2 other locations in that list even forgetting about the typo.

And you'd be incorrect, if the term Trammie has something to do with playing in Trammel, given the many times this has been reds.

But let's face it....The term Trammie is a generic insult for anyone you happen to disapprove of. You all have never been about consistency or anything like that.

One of my favorite things in the world was when one of the top spawn guilds on LS had an Internet site, the front page of which said "we aim to dominate PvP on LS, including champ spawns and the Dungeon Doom."

-Galen's player

 

[Tomas_Bryce]

Galen, it is few days before Christmas. People -are- in general busy with other things. I would not make anything out of the level of activity during this week.

 

[Cailleach]

What is this silly 'fellies are stupid' and 'trammies are stupid' thing here? You get good and bad, clever and daft and plain ordinary people in both places. It's the beauty of UO - whatever ruleset you like to play by, there's going to be a place you can play it. Think fel is getting too tame? Head to Seige. Think tram is too tame? Head to fel, and so on. Endless variety of people, endless variety of game styles. I really don't get why there's this silly name calling, it's like being back in school.

 

[Petrify]

Time for the few-remaining high-end PvM Trammel-based guilds to step up....

Hopefully after the holidays, more people will be on and more of these spawns will be done.

Want to know the easiest (not necessarily the shortest) spawn?

Twisted Weald. It's very simple. However most trammel guilds I've seen cannot do it in half the time 3 of us can.

Oh and Bedlam? Also simple, we can get upto 3rd level in 5 minutes with 4 people. Third level takes us 10, then another 5 for level 4/champ.

Meraktus? You can solo that upto the champ, then kill the champ + its friends with two greater dragons.

The Felucca-rules spawns, by comparison are extremely easy, even the higher-end spawns such as Abyss or Arachnid.

Which is ironic, because aside from Rat's, those are the two easiest spawns.

 

[Traveller]

To LOW...

QED. No need to say more...

 

[GanjaOne]

Sloloed a spawn for about an hour or so, had guild come in and help (Dragon Spawn Fel) ,took about another hour to take down spawn. Got Leiuteneants Sash (very nice!). Worked about 5 Fel spawn and gotten 4 TOS, I think the drop rate is just fine, would like to see the Ishenar drop rate fixed. Besides that these items should be rare, i got lucky (for once). I am hoping to not see another sash for some time.

 

[GalenKnighthawke]

Want to know the easiest (not necessarily the shortest) spawn?

Twisted Weald. It's very simple. However most trammel guilds I've seen cannot do it in half the time 3 of us can.

Oh and Bedlam? Also simple, we can get upto 3rd level in 5 minutes with 4 people. Third level takes us 10, then another 5 for level 4/champ.

Meraktus? You can solo that upto the champ, then kill the champ + its friends with two greater dragons.



Which is ironic, because aside from Rat's, those are the two easiest spawns.

There are people in this game who make all sorts of claims.

There was once a video on YouTube of someone soloing Lady Melisande in, oh, about 5 minutes, with an Ornate Axe. Of course the video clearly had a break halfway through, Lady M. somehow never hit him once, and there was somehow never any enslaved satyrs or anything like that.

I was part of a Harrower raid many years ago, wherein 2 big red guilds allied. It was in Destard, harder to defend at the time because people hadn't quite figured out how yet. (This represented the last time those 2 guilds allied in a Harrower, to my recollection.) The 2 guilds posted screencapped "proof" of my alliance's being allied with a secondary red guild....Their "proof?" Us standing over their corpses, after they had foolishly attacked us instead of the 2 red guilds working the Harrower.

There are reds on LS who, if you believe them, have never once lost a fight unless the opponent speedhacked.

There were these 2 guys who attacked me. 2 on 1, which became a 2 on 2 after after some stranger decided to help me for some reason. After we won they accused us of "ganking" them.

I could go on and on and on, believe me.

Or don't. What you think is of little consequence to me after this thread.

People make all kinds of claims in this game. Some are true, some aren't.

-Galen's player

 

[GalenKnighthawke]

Galen, it is few days before Christmas. People -are- in general busy with other things. I would not make anything out of the level of activity during this week.

Hope so.

I believed I covered this in my post with the closing line:

Hopefully after the holidays, more people will be on and more of these spawns will be done.

I hope this is the case. These are some very fun spawns to do. I did them on occasion even before there was a reward for it.

And like I said, I'm not advocating they increase the drop rate....90% chance of something dropping sure still feels too high when I say it.

And on LS, activity can vary one night to the next to a great degree in any case, with no obvious reason. Hell, activity can vary one hour to the next.

The conclusions I've drawn...Well, they aren't really conclusions, and I'm sorry if they sounded that way.

They are, rather, concerns I guess is a good word.

-Galen's player

 

[GalenKnighthawke]

What is this silly 'fellies are stupid' and 'trammies are stupid' thing here? You get good and bad, clever and daft and plain ordinary people in both places. It's the beauty of UO - whatever ruleset you like to play by, there's going to be a place you can play it. Think fel is getting too tame? Head to Seige. Think tram is too tame? Head to fel, and so on. Endless variety of people, endless variety of game styles. I really don't get why there's this silly name calling, it's like being back in school.

The honest answer is that Fellies like to insult. There's even a name for it: "Message Board PvP."

Every once in awhile I respond in-kind. Not my style though. But on the Internet you kind of have to strike back once in awhile, sadly.

-Galen's player

 

[Goodoljoe]

Its amazing how replica posts degenerate in no time to Tramel vs Fell school fights.Regardless,any profession will die in a milisecond in ilshenar spawns if not extremelly careful,trees,paragons,massifications of caster monsters xp-fs comboing etcs.

 

[TheScoundrelRico]

I thought the best played Seige, not production shards.

You thought correct... ...la

 

[Cailleach]

You thought correct... ...la

Says the man who has a crick in his neck from sticking his nose in the air and crossed eyes from looking down it! You, sir, are a snob!

 

[TheScoundrelRico]

You thought correct... ...la

Says the man who has a crick in his neck from sticking his nose in the air and crossed eyes from looking down it! You, sir, are a snob!

*looks down his nose at Cailleach*

If the snob shoe fits...la

 

[Cailleach]

*looks down his nose at Cailleach*

If the snob shoe fits...la

Perhaps you should change your name to Cinderella?

 

[TheScoundrelRico]

Nah, the snob shoes come in men's sizes...la

 

[Messiah]

Repeat with me: Merchants do not care so much if an item is rare or not. It is the margins that matter, not the actual price! I make approximately same percentage selling soul seeker as I do selling 120 tactics scroll. True that if it is too cheap some of us will not bother with but that is not the same.

Tomas, Tomas.... your little plan may have worked on the random person, but anyone with intelligence would see that makes no sense.


I would LOVE for you to elaborate for me how 40% of 200k is the same as 40% of 5 mill.


Merchants DO CARE about the actual price, IF, they want to be succesful at making gold.

 

[ColterDC]

Want to know why most of you are getting nothing? Its because most of you are all slow, dull trammies who spawn in huge groups with many many other random newbies casting random EVs and expecting to get an item. Get some courage and go to fel. Learn to defend yourself and stop being pancakes cattle. 4 man despise takes about 10 minutes or less...

I believe less than 5% of the things that come from trammies as most are complete idiots and do not understand the game mechanics. Well its obvious most of them are idiots as they enjoy mindless tasks like bashing dragons or mining for hours on end. They mays well push a leaver at a factory as its just as entertaining. However I imagine a lot do this IRL given the quality of posts and rubbish here.

Do you really expect high end items to be given to you for sitting at a trammel champ spawn altars while you bank sit and toss in a few EVs every now and then? Crying trammies ruined UO.

IMO these items should only exist in fel, as its a risk reward situation. "Paragons" are a risk, lol bloody simple tram.

I only play in Fel and on Siege, so I'm far from being a Trammy..... but let me just say, you sir are a complete moron who should go back to pushing you leaver... or serving me some fries.

 

[ColterDC]

Honestly I don't know about the drop rate because I haven't done any spawns since the changes were added (got a few items by killing some speedhacking punks right when they dropped the champ )

But I don't know why the Tokuno/Doom point system is not used whenever new drop systems are added. It is the best system for distributing loot and should have been added to the Peerless Bosses as well as these latest champ spawn additions.

 

[phantus]

But I don't know why the Tokuno/Doom point system is not used whenever new drop systems are added. It is the best system for distributing loot and should have been added to the Peerless Bosses as well as these latest champ spawn additions.

*sighs*

It baffles me why they don't use known, good systems.

 

[GalenKnighthawke]

Galen, it is few days before Christmas. People -are- in general busy with other things. I would not make anything out of the level of activity during this week.

Lo and behold, tonight's really active on LS.

Spawn after spawn.

I guess it's just going to vary.

Still no artifact drops for me, though...*sighs*

Oh well.

-Galen's player

 

[slayer888]

Good day.

After doing numerous tests and spawns, I found out few problem regarding to this distribution system:-

1. Usually the person who killed the most spawns will got the highest chance of getting the artifact. However, this will reset in every single/different spawn.

2. Usually, only the person who do the protection COULD get the unique / shared replica

3. Sometimes it happen that some person could be so lucky enough to just hit the last level spawn and the boss to get the replica [Again, this is not very fair to people who worked the spawn from beginning to end]



Solution: I think this should be changed to something similar to the point system in Doom. Say you've done several spawns (killed maybe 1000 monsters [same fame]) and not get 1 artifact yet, then your point should be much higher compared to a person (killed maybe 200 monsters [same fame]) accumulated in previous spawns.

So if the 30% chance rolls, and the boss got the artifact, then the 1,000 pts person should have much higher chance than the 200 pts person to get. Once any person gets the artifact, the point is resetted.


Hope this will greatly enhance the current replica distribution system and won't leave out those unlucky but working extra hard folks.

 

[Petrify]

There are people in this game who make all sorts of claims.

There was once a video on YouTube of someone soloing Lady Melisande in, oh, about 5 minutes, with an Ornate Axe. Of course the video clearly had a break halfway through, Lady M. somehow never hit him once, and there was somehow never any enslaved satyrs or anything like that.

I used to be able to do Lady M. "solo" with two accounts, without being hit the whole time and with no satyrs spawning (excluding the start). Was it legal? Nope. There are things that are possible however most of the time you just need to use your brain and think out a proper strategy for the spawn, not just brute force it then disbelieve anyone who says they can do it easier than somebody else.

I'll tell you why Twisted Weald's spawn is SO easy. Just get some tamers and say all kill on the Shadow wisps for first level, Centaurs for 2nd, then get every tamer to target the same satyr's for the 3rd level... ignoring paragon ones. For the 4th you just say all kill on the same bear and the champ your pets will eventually die due to provoke however it should only take around two "waves" of you all sending your pets on it before it dies.

You literally only need to say "all kill" a bunch of times to do that spawn. Yet most people will tell you it's the most difficult one because of the positive karma stuff and the Cu's.

I was part of a Harrower raid many years ago, wherein 2 big red guilds allied. It was in Destard, harder to defend at the time because people hadn't quite figured out how yet. (This represented the last time those 2 guilds allied in a Harrower, to my recollection.) The 2 guilds posted screencapped "proof" of my alliance's being allied with a secondary red guild....Their "proof?" Us standing over their corpses, after they had foolishly attacked us instead of the 2 red guilds working the Harrower.

I believe this as I've seen stupid things like this happen time and time again on my shard. E.g claiming to kill someone 1v1 outside of serps hold by standing on there body and scrolling there journal up to the kill shot, with it showing other people casting in the same journal log. There are idiots like that on every shard and I hardly consider them true "fel" players, considering most people like that play blues and guard hug/house hide like no tomorrow.

 

[Arch Magus]

I love Ultima online.

Feluccans and Trammies alike.

All Feluccans started as Trammies once. Remember this. I was a Trammie once too, and I bet many of you were as well.

*(Not including the long time Vets that always existed in Felucca since the beginning of time. The "true vets" as I call them.)

 

[Traveller]

Tomas, Tomas.... your little plan may have worked on the random person, but anyone with intelligence would see that makes no sense.


I would LOVE for you to elaborate for me how 40% of 200k is the same as 40% of 5 mill.

I am not tomas, and often disagree with him, but to use your own words "anyone with intelligence would see" the answer.

You completely ignore the rate-over-time of sales. Typically, stuff costing 200K is moved much more easily than stuff costing 5M. If in one day I sell 50 items costing 200K, it is actually MORE convenient for me to sell them instead of selling a 5M item which gets sold once a days (if I get from both 40% margin). Margin is one independent variable, rate-over-time is the other. Only their combination tells you how profitable is to sell something.

Now, I have completely made up the numbers, as I am not a UO merchant and don't care to be in the sorry state the economy is. Just pointing out the obvious here.

 

[Tomas_Bryce]

Tomas, Tomas.... your little plan may have worked on the random person, but anyone with intelligence would see that makes no sense.


I would LOVE for you to elaborate for me how 40% of 200k is the same as 40% of 5 mill.


Merchants DO CARE about the actual price, IF, they want to be succesful at making gold.

40% of 200K is not same as 40% of 5M - however my investment capital is constant. I only have a finite amount of gold for buying things to resell. I don't really care if it is on 10 replicas or 100 replicas or 1000 replicas (0.4*10*5M == 0.4*100*.5M == 0.4*1000*0.05M) Only thing that matters is that my margin (0.4) on total investment remains good. Please do not forget that there is a greater capital (risk and loss of opportunity related) cost attached to investing 5M compared to 200K on an item. This is bit simplistic and I gloss over some details but I hope you get the general idea.

I really could not care less whether replicas are rare or not - only thing I care about is measuring the supply and demand correctly. If they are cheaper then I will either sell more of them or have money left over to invest into something else. Additionally, I will not have to worry as much about a sudden change in the supply or demand that might send the market crashing and making me write-off a rather large investment. Kapish.