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Pub 72 Clean Up: Bestial (Berserker) Set

G.v.P

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New Imbuable Item Sets are available:

Berserker’s Gear: the wearer gains a special berserk combat effect when at low health
Fisherman’s Gear: wearing these items enhances the effectiveness of any fish bait used by the wearer
Virtuoso’s Gear: these items improve a bard’s Mastery Bonus
Each item has 125 durability and comes tagged as imbued when you get it, which means you can't use powder, ever. Each set is comprised of four pieces, and each piece comes with additional resists, especially fire resist or cold resist (the helms always give cold resist). For example, the Bestial (Berserker) Suit gives 64 total fire resist from four items before you even imbue.

What you see before you imbue holds no weight, which means the additional resists do not count towards the Total Property Weight of the item. However, since none of the items are Exceptionally Made, the Weight Cap for each item is 450 intensity.

For example, the Bestial Helm (Berserker's Gear) is: 8/6/22/7/7
The base of a Bear Mask is: 5/3/8/4/4

If you attempt to add cold resist, you can only get it to 23 (8+15), but if you add fire resist (3+15 = 18) you have added only 100 intensity out of 450 (8/18/22/7/7).

The Bestial (Berserker) Gorget is a studded gorget, the Fisherman's Trousers are studded leggings, and the Virtuoso's Tunic is a studded tunic. In other words, to make any suit medable you'll need to waste a mage armor property on one of the four items in each set.

While wearing the Bestial (Berserker) Set, if your health drops below half, "You enter a berserk rage!" and your suit changes color (red/orange). The more you drop below 50% health the more rage, and the color will change too.

When you are in a rage, you take less damage from spells and weapons: "In your rage you shrug off 10 points of damage." The odd thing is the display damage remains the same, so you may get hit by what looks like 25 damage yet receive half that during rage. Pretty interesting. Also, the rage seems to continue as long as you have incoming damage, or else it will time out over a period of a few seconds of not being damaged.

I'm a little less interested in the other two suits as far as testing them out right now but I just thought I'd gather some info on the Bestial (Berserker Suit) for now.
 

WildWobble

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yes yes yes its studded.. this is why its in tc1 so we can tell the devs that that is not acceptable and they need to fix it fast. I would rather 1% less resist and have it as leather then if they put on mage armor and ruined 100 intensity. Scouts was originally non med as i recall.
 

G.v.P

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yes yes yes its studded.. this is why its in tc1 so we can tell the devs that that is not acceptable and they need to fix it fast. I would rather 1% less resist and have it as leather then if they put on mage armor and ruined 100 intensity. Scouts was originally non med as i recall.
Well, in theory, each set is giving four free mods (resist boosts) then requiring one mage armor mod, which balances out to three free mods. It's sort of odd, I think, if intentional, but you can still make pretty nice suits with these pieces. Only real downside is the 125 durability.
 

MalagAste

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Sadly most all the characters I'd wear it on are mages of some sort.... so I don't see myself wasting points on this stuff.
 

Thav12

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If I understand this right, it could be a tricky thing for PvP. I will have to test this out...

Immortal dexxers? Particularly if it were to be put out as med-able pieces, I think.

Definitely an interesting suit. If anything, I really dig the color change upon taking damage. That in and of itself is a reason to just get one.
 

Pinco

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here is another info about this set:

When you enter in rage, any attempt to heal you will be blocked until the effect is not over.
 

puni666

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here is another info about this set:

When you enter in rage, any attempt to heal you will be blocked until the effect is not over.
Wow... that just made the suit worthless.
 

Pinco

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Wow... that just made the suit worthless.
I don't know, I jump in the middle of imp and reaper with just the armor (not imbued) and after some flamestrike, energy bolt and more I still alive even without being able to heal me, maybe there is something else... more test are needed.

EDIT: ok, I tried to stay until I died. The more the life go down the more you became tough, to kill me those things had to spam a lot of magic. In the same situation with a normal armor you just die in the first 3/4 spells. It's possible that this armor will became the ninja's best friend for pvp: dog form + heavy damage reduction = immortal :D
 

puni666

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I don't know, I jump in the middle of imp and reaper with just the armor (not imbued) and after some flamestrike, energy bolt and more I still alive even without being able to heal me, maybe there is something else... more test are needed.

EDIT: ok, I tried to stay until I died. The more the life go down the more you became tough, to kill me those things had to spam a lot of magic. In the same situation with a normal armor you just die in the first 3/4 spells. It's possible that this armor will became the ninja's best friend for pvp: dog form + heavy damage reduction = immortal :D
I suppose that's true for a soloist in pvp. Especially for a player using feint. (ninja or even more so for a bushido dexer.)
 

Pinco

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I suppose that's true for a soloist in pvp. Especially for a player using feint. (ninja or even more so for a bushido dexer.)
I've tried now in dog form (120 ninj), res far below 70. Total HPR 46.
I was in the middle of 10 imp + 3 reaper casting spells like mad and they are totally unable to bring my hps less than 25 :D
 

Pinco

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Ok, let's resume the effects:

- When you go below 50% of life you enter in the berserk rage that stills until you keep taking damage.

- You became in fire color (the entire character) until the effect is active.

- The more you take damage the more is reduced. The damage reduction is also based on the berserk level.

- You are totally unable to heal yourself, but you can regenerate.

- There is no cooldown between each activation.
 

puni666

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Ok, let's resume the effects:

- When you go below 50% of life you enter in the berserk rage that stills until you keep taking damage.

- You became in fire color (the entire character) until the effect is active.

- The more you take damage the more is reduced. The damage reduction is also based on the berserk level.

- You are totally unable to heal yourself, but you can regenerate.

- There is no cooldown between each activation.
You try confidence?
 

Warpig Inc

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So lets get this straight. The suit can and is uber in the right hands. And while singing it's praise, in the same breath you cry about the 125 durability. More burn out fast items as turn in rewards would be reason for yearly "spring" turn ins

Seems it needs the Brittle 75 durability and should at breakage of repairing have a 1 in 100 chance the crafter learns how to make it. Imagine out of the 100s of suits collected there will only be a handful of crafters that can make a missing piece of your suit.

The only flaw with a crafter being able to make it is the fact every scripter will crafting crap at home for points wearing out their house trash barrel. This Turn-In could be another fantastic trap to draw out the rats and poison them at the feeding bowl.

As far as the mage armor thing and smelly bait suit. Just wanted to let you know there is this new skill chivalry, pets now bond and recall with you. Only players still running mage miner/fisher/lumberjack/light crafter are just hard headed. Fish/Archer/Pally + Horselord. My issue with the bait suit is most likely they did not think about the Tricorn or Skullcap.

The glowing rage armor needs the added candle butt glow of the hoard minion. If someone raging wants to stealth away the suits glow gives them away. It sounds like they also need to add while the suit is activated wearer gets -50% HCI.
 

Mark Trail

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It wears out extra fast.

Now I get its weakness. You have to take damage for the berserker suit to work. Taking more damage makes it work better but also makes it wear out faster. It'll need to be repaired after every battle, and be down to zero durability before the cleanup event is done.
 

GalenKnighthawke

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Based upon this thread my fear is that this suit will either be overpowering or useless and no in-between.

As to the suit not being meddable....I have noted over the last few years a mini-trend of making non-meddable armor more attractive through the method of introducing desirable artifacts that are non-meddable. (Helm of Vengeance; Animated Legs of the Insane Tinker; a couple of others.) This set being non-meddable seems to be part of that trend.

While the Berserker Set being non-meddable is arguable I'm a tad less sold on the Fisher Set being so.

-Galen's player
 
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Sevin0oo0

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when your HP goes low, does your stamina go low as well? (as it is currently) can't apply aids and could get frozen in spot too? ug
I wouldn't worry about 'uber' - they'll nurf it - remember axers, or weapon leeches, until soulseeker came out? uber today, trash tomorrow
 

Hell's Ironworks

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Re: It wears out extra fast.

Now I get its weakness. You have to take damage for the berserker suit to work. Taking more damage makes it work better but also makes it wear out faster. It'll need to be repaired after every battle, and be down to zero durability before the cleanup event is done.
Its ridiculous that they made those pre-imbued, its only a 4 piece set, i wouldve loved to work a suit around this without imbuing it at all.

This suit in particular is gonna end up being deco wether you use it or not...

Its like the Devs prepared for us a delicious Apple pie but farted on it prior to serving...
 

vexyvixen

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Re: It wears out extra fast.

Its ridiculous that they made those pre-imbued, its only a 4 piece set, i wouldve loved to work a suit around this without imbuing it at all.

This suit in particular is gonna end up being deco wether you use it or not...

Its like the Devs prepared for us a delicious Apple pie but farted on it prior to serving...
Lol!
 

Elden of Baja

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Well, in theory, each set is giving four free mods (resist boosts) then requiring one mage armor mod, which balances out to three free mods. It's sort of odd, I think, if intentional, but you can still make pretty nice suits with these pieces. Only real downside is the 125 durability.
The Resist Should be Most definitely not be considered "Free" Mods.
For example, the Bestial Helm (Berserker's Gear) is: 8/6/22/7/7
8+6+22+7+7 = 50

Barbed Armor = 47

So, Could look at the suit as giving +12 Total to the Suit over Barbed Armor. Then you sacrifice 200% for the Berserker Property. Might not be that bad.
 

Storm

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The suit is not worth it as far as i can tell it was nerphed into worthless
 

Lord Gandalf

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did anyone notice that this set got bugged?!
im at 70 fire resists, and got hit with same damage in rage mode and normal stage

Flamstrike without rage taking 33 damage
Flamstrike with rage taking 34 damage
13-12 with firballs
 

G.v.P

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talk about thread necro ;o hm do you not receive any reduction at all though or is it possibly past the initial threshold? sounds like an individually bugged set perhaps
 

Lord Gandalf

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well i just noticed the message on my journal was not showing on EC due to filtering option, the damage taken never changes, and u read a message saying: "you shrug off X points of damage"

well, i recommend players to use this set without the gorget, still works for me, and thats to get rid of the only non mediable part of the set.
 

CovenantX

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I was unaware of this set being nerfed at any point, but anyway it is still pretty amazing, but it does have weaknesses such as the stamina draining rate when you are too low in hp, and the fact it takes the Head & Neck slots in the set bonus (all the head & Neck slot items are mostly the best pieces for near all dexer types).

When you get hit (while berserking) it shows the damage that would normally be done to you, but you only take about 10-20% of the hits total damage.

I tested it on TC harm spammed myself, I was at 3 hp and hit myself for 18 damage and was still alive.
 
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