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Policing

Ender

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Yes, General Chat is.... It's something else. Really needs to have something done. I agree that Felucca General Chat and Tram-ruleset General Chat would be the easiest fix but it would still need some policing.
 

Kael

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Yes I know but it's a completely different type of code. It's not as simple on production shards to implement as it is on those free shards, just like the Dev team couldn't stop the encryption/non encryption of 3rd party programs as easily. It would take a rework of the engine. The core code is more efficient on free shards."less jumbled". Production code is interweaving code over code over code..so to say. Probably partially due to laziness of past Devs imo..


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Maybe Broadsword should just buy a "free shard" that has been recoded for them then :) The only problem that I could see is that non of them are current with today's UO

I wonder if they opened up a new shard, even if it was with todays rule set, no transfers on or off, updated code with anti scripting/hacking measures in place. Would it be busy with people starting over from scratch? Given that no transfers could be had would duping even be an issue then.
 

Xelious Norwood

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Maybe they should look into alternative solutions. Maybe take whatever character has been proven with out a shadow of a doubt to be in violation, take there skills and make a clean sweep, (Delete all skills off that character) I bet they would quit real quick. If found guilty on numerous occasions the whole account would have there skills removed off every character.
 

Shady Ghost

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Maybe Broadsword should just buy a "free shard" that has been recoded for them then :) The only problem that I could see is that non of them are current with today's UO

I wonder if they opened up a new shard, even if it was with todays rule set, no transfers on or off, updated code with anti scripting/hacking measures in place. Would it be busy with people starting over from scratch? Given that no transfers could be had would duping even be an issue then.
I'd go just to haunt it.
 

Goldberg-Chessy

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Actually it's not adult rated anymore, it was changed to a T (13 years old and up) rating when the bounty system was removed more than 10 years ago

Look at the very bottom left corner of www.uo.com for proof. It says Rated T for blood, use of alcohol, and violence.
I stand corrected :)
But it only makes my point even stronger.
Blood, alcohol and violence. Violence of the killing and looting of dead bodies nature and a few sensitive people can't handle smacktalk which can be easily avoided?
*chuckles*
 

Modoc

Journeyman
Stratics Veteran
I stand corrected :)
But it only makes my point even stronger.
Blood, alcohol and violence. Violence of the killing and looting of dead bodies nature and a few sensitive people can't handle smacktalk which can be easily avoided?
*chuckles*
....and again you miss the point and then bend the actual truth of it. its not about the Smack Talk, its about plain flat out Vulgarity and Blatant Cheating !!!

PS. Speaking of Sensitive people it would appear this tread has hit a sensitive cord within Certain Folks:loser:
 
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Goldberg-Chessy

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....and again you miss the point and then bend the actual truth of it. its not about the Smack Talk, its about plain flat out Vulgarity and Blatant Cheating !!!

PS. Speaking of Sensitive people it would appear this tread has hit a sensitive cord within Certain Folks:loser:
I didn't bend the truth or miss any points.
You started this thread by repeatedly calling people dirtbags because what they say ingame apparently offends you. I happen to think starting a thread by calling random people dirtbags is mildly offensive.
I clearly suggested that you temporarily drop out of genchat and/or temporarily leave whatever area the supposed dirtbags are in.
That apparently is not a workable solution for you so I believe that you may in fact be overly sensitive to other peoples playstyle/comments.
Thats cool and ofc just my opinion but I just am not sure why you are asking mesanna and the devs for help with your personal issue.
If you happen to turn your television on and there is a particularly vulgar scene on do you sit and watch it in horror while complaining at the same time or do you simply change the channel and be rid of it?
I am fairly certain that you can return to that same channel a short time later and find that everything is ok.
Do you call your cable company though complaining of the vulgarity I wonder?
 

Modoc

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I didn't bend the truth or miss any points.
You started this thread by repeatedly calling people dirtbags because what they say ingame apparently offends you. I happen to think starting a thread by calling random people dirtbags is mildly offensive.
I clearly suggested that you temporarily drop out of genchat and/or temporarily leave whatever area the supposed dirtbags are in.
That apparently is not a workable solution for you so I believe that you may in fact be overly sensitive to other peoples playstyle/comments.
Thats cool and ofc just my opinion but I just am not sure why you are asking mesanna and the devs for help with your personal issue.
If you happen to turn your television on and there is a particularly vulgar scene on do you sit and watch it in horror while complaining at the same time or do you simply change the channel and be rid of it?
I am fairly certain that you can return to that same channel a short time later and find that everything is ok.
Do you call your cable company though complaining of the vulgarity I wonder?
on the wrong side of the coin per usual.
 

drcossack

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Val'lyn De'ana

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When I started playing 15 yrs ago there was very little Foul language or harassment in game and this is for 1 reason and 1 reason alone, GM Policing. Dirt Bag smack talkers didn't last long and/or cleaned up they're act. Cheats and Scripter were always in fear of being Banned.
Todays UO is an utter disgrace in the fact that Dirt Bags speak in such a manner that would make most Truck Drivers blush. Scripter/Cheats laugh at the TOS and run rampant over the Game. Bonnie and the Gang say there is little that can be done but that is absolute BS in its purist form, and they know it. Until a REAL effort is made to Policing the game again no expansion pack will help revive the game to some semblance of what is was and what it was intended to be.
I have only been back to the game for a very short time, but I haven't seen the trash talk. I am play Atlantic and as a player stealing thief. There has always been trash talk; I guess I've gotten used to it. I guess the key is to learn how to not be offended by the speech of others. If you don't like how someone is treating you in game, walk away.

I know the internet has changed over time (anti-bullying et al) but I honestly don't see the language seen in UO being any worse than other online games.

-Val'lyn
 

Aurelius

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The problems go way, way beyond trash talking, bad as the chat channels can get - MUCH worse is going on, completely unchecked, and has lost us players already, as well as putting some new and trial players off ever wanting to play for 'real' - but apparently even losing revenue and customers is not enough to get Broadsword to pull their finger out and enforce their own damn rules......
 

THP

Always Present
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Its just a shame there wasnt a smack talk channel for the kids built in....
 

Bobar

Babbling Loonie
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Policing? Forget it!. It don't exist. It is a myth that lives in the same mystic region as Quality Assurance, Customer Relations and Communication. Like many myths it may have existed once, long long ago, but no more.
 

Rhiannon

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1. Turn off Gen chat
2. ignore players
3. dont let words hurt you
4. dont feed the trolls
5. Kill people with kindness
6. Dont worry about what other people are doing

If all the above fails go kill some monsters and imagine its the particular players you hate. :)
I've been away from UO for quite a while (moved across country, life, work, family). I got a new computer in December and just now realized I didn't have a UO client installed. I thought I should at least check on my house periodically until interest and time allow me to return. While waiting for the client to update (been 30 minutes so far and that's on fiberoptic super fast internet), I thought I'd peek at the forums.

It amazes me that seventeen and a half years later, 1) these issues still exist and 2) they are still being talked about. The upside is that 1) turning off gen chat exists, 2) ignoring people exists. I suppose another good point is that there are people out there playing who actually DO CARE that these children have foul mouths in THEIR GAME after seventeen and a half years.
 
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