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OT: Question for the lovers (preferably ladies).

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HalfDead

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if she turns around and pulls the same stunt with llke 6 of your friends at once in the backseat of a volkswagon bug, you better grin and bear it buddy.

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That would hurt like a MUTHA you know what! I would prolly be visiting each friends parents at that point, to pay my respects!
 
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Guest

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If that's the attitude you hold, then forget it, you do not deserve her forgivness.

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goose and gander have equal rights
 
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HalfDead

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But what about the 6 alleged friends? Why do they deserve a pass?
 
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HalfDead

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Also, try and understand, that I been with this girl since high school. 7 1/2 years, if any friend would do that to me, then they deserve what they get.

Edit: And no, we didn't marry.
 
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Guest

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So, you can cheat on her and expect smiles and giggles, yet if she cheats, that's it your going on a killing spree?
 
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HalfDead

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Not at all, if she cheats, i would like her to cheat with her firends, but if she chooses mine, then the friends have to pay a price also. Agree?
 
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Ginsu-SP

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I think it'd just be time to actually define the word "friend".

There is a world of women out there... if that happened it's just time to spin
the big wheel again, and try to control yourself more.

Cheers!
 
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Limdul

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...her winning the super jackpot in a lottery

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I have to agree with you on this one. I know for a fact if I cheated on my wife now or while we were dating that she would kick me to the curb just like I would her. I've always taken the "If you did it once you will probably do it again" line of thought.
 
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HalfDead

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If something liked that did happen that's when I would pick up the phone, and call Spyder, to become his friend. And together, we would get back at those so called firends.
 
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Limdul

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How about sit in a running car with a hose from the exhaust through the window. Maybe then the forgiveness would come, definately if she had the person that she cheated with in there also.

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*laugh*

I was going to mention something about the proper escavation of shallow graves.. but thought better of it. Thanks for kicking off the trend Tark.


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I actually like the dip tanks at lumber yards. They disolve things very well...
 
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Limdul

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If your partner cheats on you - there is usually an underlying reason why, not just sex or a weak moment. Most likely there is something lacking in the relationship.
If you do decide to forgive ~ then you really have to find out WHY he/she looked elsewhere for love and work on that issue... or the relationship is doomed.

...just my two cents.

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men really don't need a reason, I think men are just naturally cursed with the curse of love, which causes them to sometimes cheat. *shrugs*

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I agree with what your saying. My wife always says "You can look but don't freeking touch". I know a large number of women that I would be interested in if I wasn't married but not a damned one is worth a good marriage.
 
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Limdul

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Just be sincere Halfdead... if you want to try. Any gift, or anything other than
your true feelings would just cheapen your plea. And I just stress... don't be
a pest. Let her know how important she is, and that you made a terrible mistake,
and then let her decide. She may need time to think about it, or want time apart
but your best bet is sincerity, and respect.

Good Luck!

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This is the best advice there is. Be honest with them. Don't hide anything. They may forgive but they will mostlikly never forget.
 
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Limdul

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But what about the 6 alleged friends? Why do they deserve a pass?

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Well it depends on how good of friends. I know my best friend it at my place about every other night. Him and my wife asked me one night if that bothered me. My comment of "They would never find the bodies" which I ment as a joke bothered them because they thought I was worried about them doing something.



*edit* Holy crap I'm gonna be the whole 4th page....I guess its time for sleep before work...
 
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Guest

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Well ya see the main part of a friend and or friendship any friendship even non sexual ones oft still remains to survive based on one word TRUST, unbroken trust.

If someone is your friend, one normally does not want to hurt them, nor violate nor break the trust. Friend is oft someone we would nor more hurt than we would stab ourselves because we care about them sometimes as deeply as our own self.

The basis of any deeper relationship is still...............friendship built upon trust earned and worked for &amp; towards ..together.

The male gender is no more cursed than the female gender in self serving actions. The gender of a human being, has very little to do with their priorities, or what they really want in life or feel is more important to them as a habit or way of life that either they want or not. A true solid trusting loyal relationship that can last for decades can be what they want ... or they just want the temporary shallow baskin robins flava of the month club !! Not to mention no matter the protections taken, broken trust, cheating on someone, can risk or may risk harming the mate/friend/significant other, in more ways than broken hearts or shattered trusts ever will or cheating on em, can one day even kill em.

Love is deeper, normally lasts lots longer, built on building trust, not shattering it, with both the male and the female entering a form of committment mutually, seeking MORE, &amp; working for more, to maintain it possibly for years to come, for they together have chosen mutually, not to violate trust, for just one flavor to cherish, to respect, and to savor for a life time. People dont even have to be/get married for achieving long long fullfilling trusted relationship with one person.

*** I have been married to my best friend and I his best friend for 34 yrs.** Trust is never broken thus a non issue with us..trust is just THERE and always will be there for us because that is the flavor we selected. He and I, each of us *together mutually with each other, chose to make it that way for a deeper more meaningful relationship together, instead of chosing and sampling all the drive by flavors, which never last as long, nor are as meaningful. Some prefer to live that way flavas of the month week day, it is all a freedom of choice..we did not want settle for less. We are fussy that way prefering ONE long lasting trusting relationship, to last for both of us, for a lifetime.


Maybe he and I are just weird, we just do not cheat/hurt/break the trust with someone whom is our best ever friend, someone we cherish, even more than our own ..self.. &amp; we mutually feel that way about each other.

Wanderlust is no excuse for either gender, to violate a trusted relationship. It happens. But making excuses for it based on one's gender, like it is some genetic quirk, or their hormones or whatevers, is just makin excuses, for going to ben and jerrys or baskin robbins, when ya had a gallon of ice cream that cared about ya whom you supposidly cared for in return, right at home.

And friends would not violate a friend with..their sampling, or tempting their friends friends to cheat either...or if they do then I guess they too are not much of a trustworthy loyal friend.
 
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Everyone makes mistakes. Some are harder to get past than others... The trick is to know if its a mistake they regret, or if its a mistake they would repeat once this incident blows over... or maybe not as cynical as that, will they forget the impact of this one time, in the future, and willthe other one be left carrying the burden of it. It puts something between you, but you CAN get past it. To do it, some walls have to get pulled down, and you have to look at each other and choose where you want to go, and both have to be very active participants in that process. In my experience, forgiving isn't a quick process. My best advice is to give things time and don't react too quickly, or under the influence of booze or loneliness or guilt...
 
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Narnia

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Forgiveness is for the healing of the soul and heart for oneself, so you can as a person move on. To forget the cheating, and try reconcillation is going to take a lot of hard work on gaining that trust.
If there has been any abuse mental or physical in the relationship. then it is best to forgive for your healths sake and walk away, never to return to that person again.
i agree that once trust has been shattered its hard to ever return that relationship to what it once was.
 
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Kat SP

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Pretend you're the victim here, what could he, or she say, or do, for your forgiveness? In other words, would it take flowers, tears, new car, peom, etc. etc.?

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The only thing of any worth, that could possibly help in this situation, is your honesty, your word, sincerity and trust. Some of that may have been devalued to varying degree's, but it's really all you have to work with in a situation like this. You have to be sincerely sorry for your actions and ask for forgiveness and only she can give it.

If in your heart, you believe that you can be faithful to this person [presuming you are married] for the rest of your life, you'll have to ask for forgiveness and await her answer. This isn't something that can be fixed overnight and she likely won't have an answer that quickly either. If she's willing to try and forgive this, then what you can offer her is your full support and as much reassurance as she needs, for however long it takes to regain her trust. I think if both sincerely want the relationship to work, trust can be rebuilt, but it's a very long, hard road.

Having said all that, this is indeed the ultimate betrayal.
 
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Ginsu-SP

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if she turns around and pulls the same stunt with llke 6 of your friends at once in the backseat of a volkswagon bug, you better grin and bear it buddy.

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If six of your friends can get in the backseat of a volkswagen bug... they're probably a bunch of clowns anyway!

*gratuitous rimshot*

Cheers!
 
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Katharine

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Sorry... but if she got in the backseat with 6 people period, friends or not, you should really reconsider that relationship. That's just me though.

And not to drag rl drama into this, but I've been in the situation where you ask yourself "can I really forgive them" and to be honest... yes you can forgive them, but they'll never have the trust they once had. Ever. Trust is that one thing where you can say, ok go out with 6 gorgeous supermodels, have fun and I'll see you when I get home.... why? Because you trust them enough to keep little johnny where he belongs! That's the kind of trust that's been broken... do you honestly think anyone would say something like that after there is no more trust? No, first thing you would get when you walked through the do "so did you sleep with them?" mixed in with a little sneer, your bags sitting next to the couch and a tire iron aimed at your head. Sorry, but unless the offended party truly still loves the person who hurt them, there's not a chance in hell. *shrugs*

And no I don't condone "do to them what they did to me" as a way to make yourself feel better, anyone that does that is just as low.
 
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Beatrice Quill

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A few thoughts on this... yes, from a woman's POV.

Firstly, I don't believe that forgiveness and reconciliation are the same thing.
I might forgive, but I will have a far harder time forgetting.
Once trust is broken, it CAN be put back together again, but it takes a HUGE amount of time and effort. There is no "trick". It is sheer hard work and determination, to re-earn trust once you have thrown it away.

Secondly, forgiveness is not for the good of the one being forgiven - it is for the one doing the forgiving.
If someone had hurt me, the anger, the pain, the desire for revenge/justice/etc, does NOTHING to the person who caused the pain. The actions that come from those feelings might, but the feelings themselves just carry on hurting me. So, if and when I can manage to forgive, I'll be forgiving for me - not for the one who hurt me.

That might sound selfish, but it's nowhere near as bad as some of the things that repeat offenders will do to try to smooth over the things they want to be forgiven for in the first place.

Absolutely anything CAN be forgiven. There is no trick. But, the past is the past. You can't erase it. You can both agree to leave it in the past - but it will always be there.

Now, this may get howl of horror from some people, but, I didn't bring the topic up. So, here's a very, very short sermon, complete with scripture.

Love is patient, love is kind.
It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud.
It is not rude, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs.
Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth.
It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.
Love never fails.


"Patient and kind" don't take much explaining.
"not proud" does.
You want to know how to repair the damage you've done?
Then the ego goes in the waste basket.
"You said she said I said" conversations will put the final nail in the coffin that you've already built.

"not self seeking...keeps no record of wrongs" - similar.
Do you want forgiveness for yourself, or because this other person's feelings are more important to you than anything else in the world?
If it's so you can get past your own guilty feelings, give up.
Every relationship you will ever be in will be doomed to failure, of one degree or another, until you change your outlook on relationships.
Love means sacrifice.

Similarly, the keeping no record of wrongs - that goes back to the "you said I said she said" types of talks - don't dig up and over-analyse the things that led up to the hurt, or the betrayal.
If the person who WAS hurt does, that's their right - but if you want to fix it, don't drag up all of their old faults.
Stand there and take your medicine. YOU screwed up. Admit your faults, instead of trying to hide behind someone else's.

"rejoices with the truth"
Oooh, a tough one. We're taught "fear commitment" "look out for number one" "it's ok if you don't get caught" and loads of similar things.
That will NOT repair the damage you've done. Again - take it on the chin, instead of looking for the nearest rat hole.

People might laugh at the last lines - "It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres. Love never fails." and say that this is ivory tower thinking - for a perfect world. "Not practical for the 21st Century".
Ha! It's rare to find someone who puts it into practice, but they do exist. It IS achievable. If what you have really is love, then there IS a road forwards.

If it isn't, if you can easily see yourself doing whatever you did all over again, then you need to go away and take a very good long hard look at yourself.

It's not ivory tower thinking, and it's not impossible to stick to. I know. In two days time I'll be celebrating ten years of the most amazing, constant outpouring of love I've ever been blessed enough to know.

But, from the other side of the coin, if you're ever faced with someone who is constantly repeating a cycle of hurting you, and then trying to repair things, and repeating the hurt a bit later, then get out of that relationship. It's not a healthy one. They may change for the better - but it's not going to happen while you keep pardoning their faults, instead of forcing them to face them.

*passes round collection plate, gets back one button, and half a plate*

Yeah, you WISH the local lady minister dressed like this.
 
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Cleopatra

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If a relationship is to be salvaged, I think both people in it need to find out why one of them went astray in the first place and work at it to make sure neither of them feel they want to do it again.
If it was a 'fling' it may very well be out of your system and woke you up to what you have at home, if that's the case, be honest and tell her.

If she has a 'fling' to spite you, she'll only be adding insult to injury, but if she chooses this course, you'll just have to accept it as her 'fling' in the same way you'd like her to accept yours. When she is over the shock of what you did, I don't think she'll be aiming for 'an eye for an eye' though. It'll take time to forgive no matter which route you both take.

When we've been with another person for a long time they often become our friend more than our lover as the comfort zone sets in, and one partner may eventually look elsewhere for sex or excitement. There may be times we just don't 'fancy' our 'other half' as much as we used to in a sexual way and some think the grass is greener on the other side, so they try it.

Understanding why it happened will go a long way in helping you both get past it and give you the ability you need to move on, together or separately.



I hope you can work it out hun.
 
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Love is patient, love is kind.
It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud.
It is not rude, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs.
Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth.
It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.
Love never fails.

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Amen!

-Skylark
 
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Dor of Sonoma

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I've always liked this song (my italics added):

That's Not Love

by Kevin Moore / G. Graper
recording of 1996
from Just Like You (OKeh/Epic/Sony 484117 6)

It ain't you
No it ain't me
That's not the way
Love's supposed to be

And it's just no good
No it ain't right
For you to be sitting all alone
Crying every night

You're down on your knees
Scared he's gonna leave
But if you really wanna know
You're gonna have to let go

´Cause that's not love
Love don't feel that bad
That's not love
It don't feel that sad
No that's not love
'Cause you don't feel good inside
I don't know what it is
But that's not love


Inside your heart
It's always raining
And you're oh so tired
Tired of your own complaining

This is for real
It ain't no game
You can't measure your love
By the depths of your pain
 
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Dark_Schneider

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Ok, this is just a scenario, ok? K, let's say your man, or woman done something to hurt you very badly, for example....... uummmm let's say... infidelity for example. What is the one thing he, or she, could do, in order for you to forgive them, and go on with your relationship? Even for the most stubborn person on the planet, surely there must be something that will allow this person to be forgiven. Please post what would do the trick for you.

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The thing is, even if you get forgiven, you better be prepared to spend a LONG LONG LONG time earning her trust back, just about anytime you're not with her she may get upset just wondering if you're out doing something again. I'd say it would be best to spend twice as much time with her and less time out with friends.

No matter if she forgives you or not, she will NEVER forget, ever. (i'm not even talking directly about infidelity cuz i'm not a cheater, just about any big mistake they seem to remember) Be prepared to hear about it during arguements for a LONG time, and don't get upset when it gets brought up and has nothing to do with the arguement, you did it to yourself afterall, and getting upset when they bring it up seems to piss them off more cuz they often seem to take that as you not caring that you did it, you have be be "sorry" about it forever.

All in all, I don't think its possible for hte relationship to go completely back to normal for a long time. Just imagine it happening to you, its something that really sticks in the back of your head and can really make a person, boy or girl, insanely paranoid, and rightly so.

I've never cheated, I've been cheated on, and I've seen my best friend cheat on his gf. I lost a lot of respect for him there. Personally if you cheat, you should be left behind. If someone doesn't have self control to control their lust, they probably won't learn that self control for the next time.
 
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All right lady, you are forcing me to break out the REO Speedwagon lyrics.

baby all I can say to you, is:
That ain't love!
I believe you've got the wrong emotion.
That ain't love!
At least it doesn't feel like love to me.
As long as I say what you wanna hear,
Do what you wanna do,
Be who you want me to be;
You think that's love -
Well baby that ain't love to me!




-Skylark
 
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Toodamndrunk

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As others have said you need to find out why the person cheated to begin with and see if that problem can be resolved or just a diffrence in each other that will never happen.

Understand that if the person excepts you back it will take alot of time to get trust back and that the relationship will not be on the same level for a long time.

Also ask these questions if your the one being given the second chance. Can I be faithful to this person? Am I just scared of being alone or truely care for this person? Can I take the constant questioning that is going to be done ( every time your not there he/she may wonder what your doing, who its with)? Will I be able to make the person understand at all time that they are the I want to be with without changing who I am? (Because if you try and change it will only be temporary and your back to you and they may not like that. Guess what I am trying to say is if you shower someone with roses and kisses and and compliments and this is not you normally a few things can happen: they like it and now will expect it from then on out; its not you and they now see you a diffrent way and don't like it; its not you and you can tolerate yourself)

Something else don't try and rush back into this the person is mad give them time to deal with their emotions as well. Not just their trust has been betrayed but their emotions and confidence have been as well.

Let the person know you still care and you screwed up and are truely sorry. Then leave it at that, don't do the trap and try and call every day or stop by unexpected. The person has alot of emotions going on let them get them in order, let them be mad, let them be hurt, and let them see if they are going to miss you. Then you might have something worth keeping and salvaging if not chaulk it up to life and be prepared to move on no matter how bad it hurts.

If you do call or stop by be prepared for a degree of things; ANGER, HATRED ( not of you per say but the situation), alot of questions, confirmation of your feelings, then they may feel your checking up on them to make sure they are not doing something you don't like and get angry all over again.

Just learn to deal with the fact the person is gone and may never come back. Be strong and true to yourself and everything else will fall into place. If they truely care they may give you another chance if not in a day or two maybe down the line after they have gone out on dates etc and found that they still miss that special thing about you.

And don't forget:
DON"T GET YOUR HOPES UP TO HIGH IT MAY BE TRUELY OVER AND DEAL WITH IT!
IF THEY DO TAKE YOU BACK DON"T DO IT AGAIN!!!!! IF YOUR FEELING THAT WAY BE HONEST WITH THEM BEFORE YOU DO NOT AFTER!!
 
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OK, Mr. Cynical Love Song Depot, you brought this on yourself. A pity others will have to suffer as well.

If you find that Love Bites, and is a Battlefield for you, then maybe you are...

Lookin' for love (in All the Wrong Places) - Waylan Jennings

I've spent a lifetime looking for you
Single bars and good time lovers, never true
Playing a fool's game, hoping to win
Telling those sweet lies and losing again.

I was looking for love in all the wrong places
Looking for love in too many faces
Searching your eyes, looking for traces
Of what.. I'm dreaming of...
Hopin' to find a friend and a lover
God bless the day I discovered
Another heart, lookin' for love

When I was alone then, no love in sight
And I did everything I could to get me through the night
Don't know where it started or where it might end
I turn to a stranger, just like a friend

I was looking for love in all the wrong places
Looking for love in too many faces
Searching your eyes, looking for traces
Of what.. I'm dreaming of...
Hopin' to find a friend and a lover
God bless the day I discovered
Another heart, lookin' for love

You came a'knocking at my heart's door..
You're everything I've been looking for..

No more looking for love in all the wrong places
Looking for love in too many faces
Searching your eyes, looking for traces
Of what.. I'm dreaming of...
Now that I found a friend and a lover
God bless the day I discovered
You, oh you, lookin' for love

In all the wrong places
Looking for love in too many faces
Searching your eyes, looking for traces
Of what.. I'm dreaming of...
Now that I found a friend and a lover
God bless the day I discovered
You, oh you, lookin' for love



Top that, buddy!

-Skylark
 
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Skada

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Honestly, nothing would make me take them back. If I couldn't trust them, then why should I waste my time on something that is obviously not that important to the other party? (not to mention the extreme embarrassment the cheated feels, or loss of self-worth, lower self-esteem)


Communication is one of the keys to a successful relationship. People will cheat for a variety of reasons but usually it is because something is missing or lacking... If you DON'T talk about your feelings, your concerns, or hell, just TALK-then you are bound for disaster.
 
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Mandolin

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For the Cheaters out there...

"Caught with your pants down" - AC/DC
 
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Toodamndrunk

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For the Cheaters out there...

"Caught with your pants down" - AC/DC

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Chuck Berry "My Ding A Ling"
 
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Ginsu-SP

Guest
This one doesn't have "love" in the title, but it has made me feel better often in times of confusion;

Crazy Circles (Bad Company)

Life is like a merry go round painted horses riding up and down
Music takes you and you're gone again
Crazy circles never seem to end

Oh I will face the sun
Leavin shadows far behind
And together we'll go on
Through time oh yeah

Life is like a game of chance
Some find riches and some romance
Some find happiness and some find sorrow
Some find it today and some maybe tomorrow

Oh I will face the sun
Leavin shadows far behind
And together we'll go on
Through time oh yeah

Life is like a carousel you aim for heaven
And you wind up in hell
To all the world you're livin like a king
But you're just a puppet on a broken string

Oh I will face the sun
Leavin shadows far behind
And together we'll go on
Through time oh yeah

Life is like mm and the life is like mm
Crazy circles goin round and round
Crazy circles round and round and
One day you're up and the next day you're down
Life is like a merry go round

Cheers!
 
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Toodamndrunk

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For the Cheaters out there...

"Caught with your pants down" - AC/DC

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Chuck Berry "My Ding A Ling"

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or

Mac Davis "Baby Don't Get Hooked On Me"
 
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Mandolin

Guest
"Wasting Time" - Collective Soul

Something’s going wrong inside of you
Burdens bearing down and seeping through
Well, I don’t want to bleed andymore for you
And I don’t want to breathe any hatred too

Sitting while your world just floats around
Now you want to move ’cause it’s crashing down
Well, I don’t want to sing you guarantees
And I don’t want to cling to our use to be’s

So take your heart, take your soul
Just get yourself on out of here
Yeah, just take your hurt, take your pain
Just get yourself on out of here

Wasting time
That’s all you’ll do if you’re waiting for me
Wasting time
I don’t see what you think I see
Wasting time
That’s all you’ll do if you’re waiting for me
Wasting time
I don’t want what you think I need
 
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Toodamndrunk

Guest
One more fitting for here

B.J. Thomas "Another Somebody Done Somebody Wrong Song"
 
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Guest

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There must be fifty ways to leave your cheating lover,

step out the back, Jack
make a new plan, ANN

just set your self free bea

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*uses her best Hank Williams country twang ...sing it now* hrm



Your cheatin' heart will make you weep
You'll cry and cry and try to sleep
But slee-eep won't come the whole night through
Your cheatin' heart will tell on you

When tears come down like fallin' rain
You'll toss around and call my name
You'll wa-alk the floor the way I do
Your cheatin' heart will tell on you

Your chea-eatin' heart will pine some day
And crave the love you threw away
The ti-ime will come when you'll be blue
Your cheatin' heart will tell on you

When tears come down like fallin' rain
You'll toss around and call my name
You'll wa-alk the floor the way I do
Your cheatin' heart will tell on you .
 
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Beatrice Quill

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From the 'prevention is better than cure' department...
Meatloaf - I would do anything for love.

(assuming we don't have too many of the 'uh...what wouldn't he do? I don't get it' brigade in here, anyway)
 
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Guest

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Eeep! Could any human being possibly sound whinier and more pathetic than the Meatloaf singer does on the chorus of that song?

-Skylark
 
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Mandolin

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Eeep! Could any human being possibly sound whinier and more pathetic than the Meatloaf singer does on the chorus of that song?

-Skylark

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Yup. "I Need Your Love" - Boston

Brad Delp sounds so pathetic and needy on that track it's reminicent of Air Supply.
 
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Katharine

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Nope.. I got one better.

"Shut Up" -- Kelly Osbourne Just so appropriate
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Here is a song, that meant a lot in a shattered relationship once. It was a song that reunited my own youngest daughter and myself. Momma dont take kindly to lies or betrayal and only wanted the best for her baby..and she didnt listen to me. She was *in love* and about violated every rule in the house, to sneak off to see the guy..whom I felt was a jerk and abusive sort. Trying to protect her like momma's do but she wasn't listening to me at all.

With the last straw of us struggling and her not listening, she was still a minor straight A student and seemingly throwing her life away over an arse. I kicked her out of the house ..hardest thing I ever did and regreted doing, yet she wasnt listening !
And she kept trying to lie to me bout meeting the jerk. I can not tolerate liars even if my own kid.

She was gone for a half year and I nearly went insane after kickin her out, watching her let her life go down the toilet. She didnt think she had a snowballs chance in hell to COME BACK either cuz she seemed to become a pathological liar for a jerk of a guy.

I heard a song on the radio and bought 2 copies..one for her, one for me. I sent it to her at ..........his address hoping she would get it..not him.

She come home, with a black eye, crying saying at the door can I come home ?

I said YES ! and we hugged and wept and together we played that song that I bought us both.

Maybe Spyder can play it on one of his next shows. Its called *nobody knows I am missing you* and it is the song that reunited a busted all to hell relationship of broken trust..mother daughter style..but the song might work for others too, to get back together. WE both were wronged back then ..and both of us apologised and forgave. Have to have an earnest heart to repair major damages in any relationship.
Good luck !

I got my daughter back, 4.0 average she became a cardiologist nurse and finally met a decent man and they got married, last summer !
Momma proud of her yet can still cry to hear this song.. I almost lost her, that song brought us back together as mother daughter and as ..friends !

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Tony Rich Project lyrics Nobody knows...........Im missing you.

I pretended I'm glad you went away
These four walls closing more everyday
And I'm dying inside
And nobody knows it but me
Like a clown, I put on a show
The pain is real even if nobody knows
And I'm crying inside
And nobody knows it but me

Why didn't I say
The things I needed to say
How could I let my angel get away
Now my world is tumbling down
I can say it so clearly
But you're nowhere around

Chorus:
The nights are lonely
The days are so sad
And I just keep thinking about
The love that we had
And I'm missing you
And nobody knows it but me

I carry a smile when I'm broken in two
And I'm nobody without someone like you
I'm trembling at night and
Nobody knows it but me
I lie awake it's a quarter past three
I'm screaming at night as if
I thought you'd hear me
Yeah my heart is calling you
And nobody knows it but me

How blue can you get?
You could ask my heart
But like a jigsaw puzzle
It's been torn all apart
A million words couldn't say
Just how I feel
A million years from now you know
I'll be loving you still
Chorus:
The nights are lonely
The days are so sad
And I just keep thinking about
The love that we had
And I'm missing you
And nobody knows it but me

Tomorrow morning I'm hitting
The dusty road
Gonna find you wherever
Ever you might go
I'm gonna unload my heart and hope
You come back to me
Said when the nights are lonely...

Chorus:
The nights are lonely
The days are so sad
And I just keep thinking about
The love that we had
And I'm missing you
And nobody knows it but me
 
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Limdul

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...her winning the super jackpot in a lottery

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LOL I mentioned this thread to my wife and she said she would take me back if I won the lottery....Then when I got all the money she would divorce me and take half......
 
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