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PLayers can no longer craft relic frags...so as a poster earlier in the week said, watch the prices on these little babies skyrocket!
You know I worked night and day. I sold 200 total to a friend so cheap no one would believe it, and now I'm just going to keep all these. I had 500 up for sale, and I was thinking about selling a larger quantity but I was blessed no one bought them. ROFLPLayers can no longer craft relic frags...so as a poster earlier in the week said, watch the prices on these little babies skyrocket!
Not on this forum I can't.sorry about that...wasnt thinking...should said the "sneaky" nerf...can you fix it??
If it's your thread, you can fix it. Go to Edit - then look for the "advanced" tab.sorry about that...wasnt thinking...should said the "sneaky" nerf...can you fix it??
TY Tazer! Fixed and less confusing now!If it's your thread, you can fix it. Go to Edit - then look for the "advanced" tab.
Thats correct. So now the only way to get them will be ultra lucky loot.So what does this mean? Was there a way to craft items that would give relic fragments and now thats not the case any longer?
You used to be able to craft items, then imbue them up enough to be able to unravel them for a relic frag...thats why there are so many out there on vendors atm. For instance, if you made a bow from regular wood, then imbued it with 46ML, 46LL, 44 HFA, and 36 Dispel, then enhanced it with Oak wood, it would unravel to a relic. With the update last week...and the making it live on all shards today, you can no longer imbue something up and get a relic frag from it, the most it will return is essence. So, frags can no longer be "made" by players. Now the only way to get frags is by unraveling the occasional +451 intensity loot drop, or unraveling ariti's...which in turn is going to make relic frags VERY rare in comparrison to what they are now.This thread has me very confused... does this mean relic frags no longer come off of anything other than arties?
I didn't think you could craft them before the publish either, unless what you're meaning to say is that now no player crafted items will unravel into a relic fragment, which seems odd.
Yeah Yeah...its the scripters again...cant ANYBODY on stratics post something without talk of scripters in it??? I made like 300 frags this way, I made every one by hand...it took me 2 days, and about 8 hours total to do it...nothing but manual clicking...but...its the scripters fault!Oh yay another nerf that benifits the scripters, you know the ones that did it non stop. This blows honestly was it really that bad considering the cost and time of making those items.
Ah well way to go Devs in making the people that cheat in game even richer.
Scripters aside,Oh yay another nerf that benifits the scripters, you know the ones that did it non stop. This blows honestly was it really that bad considering the cost and time of making those items.
Ah well way to go Devs in making the people that cheat in game even richer.
LOL, go try and imbue up a item to unravel for a frag..see if you can do it, that should be confirmation. I did not say you could not make them using runic crafting tools (hammers, fletching kits..etc) I have not even tried that. I am just saying that all those people out there that were making jewlrey, or bows, and imbuing them up to unravel for a frag, can no longer do it...go try it for yourself. Go make a Braclet, imbue it with 13-13-13-13-13 resists, unravel it at the queens forge...all your gonna get is essence....yesterday you would have got a frag.I'd like a little more confirmation of this.
I verified this morning. You can't get relic fragments for 425 1.0 weighted mods at the Queens forge anymore.I'd like a little more confirmation of this.
I can confirm this! if you mean a dev to confirm good luck! I actually thought this was a feature for gargs and it actually made sense ! there I go thinking again!I'd like a little more confirmation of this.
Yep! to tell everyone that Gary's make stronger imbuers and then remove from the game the only example of this being true is kinda counter intuitive really, It rally was the only last reason to have a Gargy Char for allot of people.I can confirm this! if you mean a dev to confirm good luck! I actually thought this was a feature for gargs and it actually made sense ! there I go thinking again!
451 unweighted does not work, but honestly even if it did it's not worth doing it at all any more. It never was. It was a golden time, some people took advantage, my buyers gave me a hard time. They wouldn't listen about how hard it was so I just kept them. It was funny to me. I just kept making them as hard as I could because you just couldn't make many of them no matter how hard you worked.I verified this morning. You can't get relic fragments for 425 1.0 weighted mods at the Queens forge anymore.
IE a bracelet with 13 fire, 13 energy 13 poison, 18 lrc and 77 luck no longer gives a relic fragment.
I also tried 13 fire, 13 energy, 13 poison, 18 lrc and 90 luck (mods maxed just before needing special materials) and also no relic fragments.
We need to have items with 451 mods now. Considering 90% x 5 = 450(where you need to be before special materials are necessary) there is no way to make relic fragments with only 90 percent intensity. You either need special materials or to start on items that are runic crafted and have 100% intensity mods.
Talk about missing the boat, people didn't even want to pay 65m for 500.451 unweighted does not work, but honestly even if it did it's not worth doing it at all any more. It never was. It was a golden time, some people took advantage, my buyers gave me a hard time. They wouldn't listen about how hard it was so I just kept them. It was funny to me. I just kept making them as hard as I could because you just couldn't make many of them no matter how hard you worked.
LOLOL... er um.. I mean...I made like 300 frags this way, I made every one by hand...it took me 2 days, and about 8 hours total to do it...nothing but manual clicking...but...its the scripters fault!
Did you even do the bow method???? Extremely EASY??? How about having to do all them clicks to imbue only to get a catastrophic FAIL when trying to enhance? All that money on gems and residue out the window! Not to mention all the time put into making the residue! And the time to get the gold to buy the gems or MINE THEM!extremely easy to get them
It's not worth doing it that way. The special ingrediants sell for quite a bit. It should of being kept secret not from the players but from the dev. Any fool with a small brain could of figure ut there was no reason to shout it out to the world. Has nothing with greedyness it has alot to do with handling people thngs on a silver platter when they could easily found out for themselves if they just tried. The reason to shut it out is to lower the pries knowing that a ineveitable change will come make as much as possible and now could sell it at extremly high prices. They and me are about to make a boat load of gold from this. Im sad they closed it but it was bound to happen as soon as the fist person said it. So now it's gold making time.you can still do it just fine, just need the high intensity ingrediants, which is the way it should be. Relic Fragments are supposed to be something rare and mystical so why should it be extremely easy to get them? I for one enjoy hearing the crying from people that want everything in uo to be easy. its entertaining.
Imbuing requires some hunting and thats great, you cant just buy bulk wood/ingots and mindlessly craft away.
As for advising people to keep things like the crafted relics secret, thats just an idea for the greedy. When the crafted relics started hitting vendors for insane prices i hit the streets with books detailing how they were made and why no one should have spent more than 50k on a relic frag. why? just to rain on the greedy vendors' parade.
this is a great change/fix and im glad to see it.
If you were making them @50k each then 100 for 3 mil was pretty effing good before.Because of being able to do this I made my relics for less than 50k a pc,
100 for about 3mil sounds pretty effing good now.
We will never have that answer. What was intended one minute is unintended the next and changed again later. It's just the way. Matter of fact that question of if it's intended or not of anything should be wiped from the players minds.Well, I guess we have our answer as to whether it was intended or not.
The way I see it, relic fragments were a good excuse to melt down surplus artifacts and a reward to high-end hunting. Having them craftable, although putting them within reach of a lot more players, completely removed the incentive to unravel high end things.
I expect we may someday see more ways for crafters to get them (such as daily quests), but at a more controlled rate.
Yea it was pretty effing good, but the problem was I would have to buy them from an online broker.. so in all reality I would've had to pay 6 bucks for 100, which breaks down to about 12mil these days. *** sorry I'm mad and had to rethink this after someone pointed it out, but gold is about .50 a mil *** Which when you look at it, paying 6 bucks or 12mil is better than paying 50mil for 100 (this being at 500k a fragment) Being able to make them in game gave me a reason NOT to buy from the broker, but this change is gonna send me right to the brokerIf you were making them @50k each then 100 for 3 mil was pretty effing good before.
Anyway I'm sure there will be other methods that will crop up on the forums. And just as it has been changed, it can be changed back. New systems should always start off tough and tweaked down once the rush is over. I auctually think it was too easy to get them.
I think he means that the changes now benefit the scripters and not the players, and he prefers keeping relics as a common ingredient.Yeah Yeah...its the scripters again...cant ANYBODY on stratics post something without talk of scripters in it??? I made like 300 frags this way, I made every one by hand...it took me 2 days, and about 8 hours total to do it...nothing but manual clicking...but...its the scripters fault!
Though the armor has a long life if you PoF it, it is still going to wear out. So when you use it, you are using it for a finite amount of time. You could argue that runic crafted and most arties aren't 100% what you want in a build and imbuing can be... but in most situations on the PvM side... having a perfect suit isn't necessarily required to get the job done. Every stat counts in PvP so thats a little different. But when I see an 80-100 mil deco item from a fel only champ... I dont feel so guilty about it.ok so for the players who dont always have time to go farm arties, what do they get stuck with? paying a godly amount per fragment or a godly amount per artie, which some arent even worth 50k but now they are gonna be worth 500k or more?
Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr bull****
Like I havent already sunk enough gold into the npcs for jewels and will continue doing so anyway, but now I have to pay whatever someone sets the prices at for fragments and arties too??
Players need to know the design intent so that they know whether something is an exploit to report, a feature to use or a point to be debated.Matter of fact that question of if it's intended or not of anything should be wiped from the players minds.
your method was not easy yes, how hard is it to tinker up exceptional rings, slap 13 of each resist on it and unravel for a relic? thats the method im talkin bout. now if ya want to make relics, just keep your items from heartwood quests and slap some mods on and make relics, no hunting required, just gotta get good items to start with.It was NOT extremely easy! It was painful and time consuming! !
the 13, 13, 13, 18, 77 method, which most of you who did this, should know what I'm talking about.. might have been easier than the bows method, but costly none the same.. farm to get the residue, which it took 42 per bracelet if you didnt fail, buy up the jewels.. which was time consuming and expensive, esp with failing.. but it was better than trying to spend the time I DONT have trying to hunt down arties.your method was not easy yes, how hard is it to tinker up exceptional rings, slap 13 of each resist on it and unravel for a relic? thats the method im talkin bout. now if ya want to make relics, just keep your items from heartwood quests and slap some mods on and make relics, no hunting required, just gotta get good items to start with.