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Salivern_Diago

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Kelmo, I have to ask why are you posting all those? My earlier concerns were due to syndication of tweets outside of the Twitter framework and not within.
 
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goldenpower

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Ah thankfully that bunch of freedom haters wont be getting my tweets then.
it is not Congress that is saving tweets. it is the Library of Congress. yes, it's part of the legislative branch but there was no law passed to do this. all they had to do was come to an agreement with Twitter
 

Lady Laurel

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If you don't use Twitter, why not just subscribe to the guy's updates via RSS:

http://api.twitter.com/1/statuses/user_timeline.rss?screen_name=Jeff_Skalski

You don't *have* to join to "follow" him.

Stratics should also use this method for delivering news content.... there's no reason why someone should be copy/pasting manually, lol.
The main reason for not doing that at this time is that it will then post all of his updates, even those that do not pertain to UO.
 

Salivern_Diago

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Its the corruption that taints anything that comes out of congress. It may be the library but it'll be for a reason that breaks freedom of speech or something alike. I'm very passionate about privacy and the rights of the individual (lol as you've probably noticed in this thread). But eh, we're going off topic so lets get back on the rails!
 
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goldenpower

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Its the corruption that taints anything that comes out of congress. It may be the library but it'll be for a reason that breaks freedom of speech or something alike. I'm very passionate about privacy and the rights of the individual (lol as you've probably noticed in this thread). But eh, we're going off topic so lets get back on the rails!
I don't see any privacy issues with regard to the Library of Congress archiving public tweets and I would bet that even the most conservative members of the Supreme Court would agree.
 

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It is permissible, it is beneficial to the community, and it is beneficial to the developers. If a specific user feels that their privacy has been violated, they may follow these guidelines: Notice and Takedown Policy. Questions may be directed to [email protected].

Thank you.
 

Salivern_Diago

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I don't see any privacy issues with regard to the Library of Congress archiving public tweets and I would bet that even the most conservative members of the Supreme Court would agree.
I really want to post something about this but in the interest of political calm I'll keep quiet (And its really hard not to post something >.<)
 

Viper09

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If one is so concerned about whether or not Jeff wants his tweets re-posted then why not just go and personally ask his permission for all of us? Problem solved! lol
 

Petra Fyde

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We're not posting private information, only UO related questions, answers and comments. In many cases the person who asked a question comes here to pass the information on already.

My driving force is to make Stratics the best resource I can for UO players, to support as best I can the game, its developers and its players.

The decision to include this feature was mine, and while 'money' seems to be at the forefront of your arguments against our providing this service, it never entered my head.

Spiritless: We don't want to rss it because we only want to pick up UO related items, not everything that's said.
 

Salivern_Diago

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We're not posting private information, only UO related questions, answers and comments. In many cases the person who asked a question comes here to pass the information on already.

My driving force is to make Stratics the best resource I can for UO players, to support as best I can the game, its developers and its players.

The decision to include this feature was mine, and while 'money' seems to be at the forefront of your arguments against our providing this service, it never entered my head.
Not fully Petra, my concern was that people's tweets were going to be syndicated without thier consent or knowledge. Also some peoples twitter usernames are thier real names and those being linked to personalities here on Stratics could be viewed as a security risk for thier accounts. If someone takes the time (And they would) they can get someones characters names, email, real name, location of where they live and to some extent thier lifestyle movements.. all tools to enable someone to possibly hack an account. All I asked was that people be asked first, I really cant see how difficult that is to facilitate?
 

Salivern_Diago

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think of it this way, it's like standing in a public square or a public park passing around a flyer w/ stuff you want people to read, then getting perturbed when someone keeps it to put in a library. there is no privacy issue and it is not a political statement.
ARRGGHH I'll say this.. If Congress has something to do with it any any shape way or form then you can bet it'll effect someones freedom badly.Now I would really like to not continue with politics please as its getting into dodgy waters.
 

Taylor

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Not fully Petra, my concern was that people's tweets were going to be syndicated without thier consent or knowledge.
Rest assure that our network has no interest in syndicating your Tweets. We do not even have the capability to automatically pull posts from Twitter at this time. Moreover, aside from Jeff, there are currently no plans to extend this project. Hence, your concerns should be mollified and we can get back to the topic.

Once again, if a specific user feels that their privacy has been violated, they may follow these guidelines: Notice and Takedown Policy. We will not consider disputes from second or third parties--only from the affected individual.
 

Salivern_Diago

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Fair enough Syrus, my issue was related to tweets other people have made in relation to UO that Jeff has replied to (Without which Jeff's reply might not make sense without). IT was stated that they too might get posted and that was my issue.

I have many thoughts on the issue that I would be willing to explain in more detail however I believe the issues I brought up on this thread have become muddled so if you wish I can discuss them privately.
 
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goldenpower

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for anyone that doesn't understand what the issue is here I will illustrate.

here are some recent PUBLIC tweets made to Jeff. I see no problem with posting any of this on Stratics so I'm doing it just to show people what Tweets are. they are publicly available and will be archived by the Library of Congress and show up in Twitter, Google, and Bing search results

they ARE NOT private communications.

 

Salivern_Diago

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Thats not the issue I was attempting to make Goldenpower, well not fully. As I said however I will explain to a member of Stratics about it privately if needed as its got very muddled on here now.
 
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goldenpower

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for anyone who is interested in knowing what they are talking about, here is the original tweet

 

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Hey thats me!:thumbup::party::mf_prop:

Gah! Syrus fix me and my hanging posts! Editing to add:

While it's good to iron out concerns just please be aware that what Petra and Lady Laurel are striving to do is keep the UO community updated on UO stuff. Jeff has a means of communicating that go beyond forums and Producer letters. That is his right as a person and Producer. Others on the Dev Team do the same and we're not looking to invade anyone's personal space. Just provide information wherever we find it when it comes to our game.

Hope that helps some!

and Happy Friday the 13th everyone!
 

Storm

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hey thats me Snowdog65 that retweeted that lol you all in trouble now
 

jskalski

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You have my consent. ;) Repost away. Twitter is just a way more efficient way for me to communicate with everyone. It gets broadcasted to all, not just one forum plus is so much faster than sifting through threads to find a question or post a quick thought. Doesn't mean I won't stop by and read the threads. My schedule is pretty booked every week, but I have blocked out time to swing by Stratics and other sites to see what you guys and ladies are talking about. ;)
 

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Thanks J. We were gonna post yer stuff any way. Just sayin'. Glad you approve.
 

Zosimus

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You have my consent. ;) Repost away.
Thank you Jeff for giving clarification.

Pretty much anything a person posts on the net is kind of out there anyway for the taking. Just saying :)

Oh btw I have copyrights to the words... The, you, squishy, and, I, finally, iggy.

Nobody can post using these words above or I so swear I will facepalm like no other :p
 

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I have been trying to tweet to him questions that people are having, though they do not show up on his Twitter page until he responds. So far he has seemed happy that I am relaying the info, and I hope that it stays that way.

If you, or anyone else does not have/want a Twitter account but would like to ask a reasonable UO related question, I will be happy to relay it. Feel free to PM me here on stratics.

I will only be reporting on UO related issues and as far as re-tweeting/re-posting someone's tweets, Twitter already has avenues in place that I can post them all to my facebook or have them feed to other sites, so there is no expectations of privacy for anything that you post on twitter.

I'm not ever going to tweet on any twitter or do anything on facebook... but perhaps you can ask him a few things for me :

When are we going to get a snowglobe for Despise??? Don't you think it's LONG overdue??? I've only been asking for one for the last 6 years I think. Not sure why it was forgotten or missed but we need one to complete our snowglobes. (Could also use one for the Abyss and the Tomb of Kings and maybe even the Holy City)

Can we PLEASE add the ability to add more co-owners to the housing menu? Currently you can be "co-owned" to up to 10 houses per character... but each house is limited to only 10 co-owners making this sort of useless... each house needs to have at least 70 co-owner slots. Not that everyone would have 70 co-owners on each house but those of us (and I know there are a vast number of players who do) with multiple accounts are sick and tired of being nothing but a friend in our own homes.

Now that Garlands are fixed are you planning to fix the 100's of other items in the EC that don't place right? And how about adding the artwork to the EC for the Styngian Dragon statue??? And it would be good if we could get the technicolor giant horde minion in the EC too... since it would seem that EM's like to use this monster but there is NO graphic for it in the EC making it a completely invisible mob. Kinda hard to kill it and loot it's corpse if you can't see it.

What ever happened to the Faction revamp?
 
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