*Put on flame suit* Yes I know there is a little to much Freja in this chat and I was not going to post it, but I believe you should see it.
<8988222>Mesanna: good afternoon Siege
<12410876>Pinkerton: *smiles*
<1464013>Freja: Hello Mesanna
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: thats not the real mom
<13804656>Musashi: Hello Messana
<10176735>Creeger: Howdy
<8988222>Mesanna: I would like some feedback please
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: mom?
<17347657>Shovel: oO
<8988222>Mesanna: I have a complaint I need to look into
<1464013>Freja: lets hear
<12410876>Pinkerton: Uh oh...
<8988222>Mesanna: I have a complaint against the EM on Siege
<10176735>Creeger: It wasn't me
<8988222>Mesanna: and I would like to hear your feedback
<12410876>Pinkerton: Bennu?
<8988222>Mesanna: yes
<8988222>Mesanna: do you guys find him rude?
<10176735>Creeger: I was there for that mess.
<5512560>Delores Duende: not at all
<1464013>Freja: I know I was unhappy with the choose of town zone, but else not
<10176735>Creeger: And I think he did fine
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: theres no way this is the real mom, ive seen this hoax on atl too
<1464013>Freja: he is a little arrogant
<10176735>Creeger: A lot of people here were rude to him
<15141313>etherealman: Bennu did a great job with the event. It was two people whining who wouldnt stop.
<1464013>Freja: but Siege is not an easy place for an EM
<8988222>Mesanna: being an EM is not easy period
<17347657>Shovel: No problems here
<15141313>etherealman: bennu handled it as best it could be handled i though
<8988222>Mesanna: its impossible to please everyone
<17347657>Shovel: *nods*
<12410876>Pinkerton: I support Bennu, Does a fine job
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: yah I have a giant complaint that made me quit the EM events
<1464013>Freja: maybe he just need more time to get to know us
<15141313>etherealman: thumbs up for Bennu
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: the events werent in pvp areas, this is Siege damnit, we want more risk
<8988222>Mesanna: I am sure with time Freja you guys can work anything out if you try
<15141313>etherealman: Each event is different. try the next one
<10176735>Creeger:
<5512560>Delores Duende: wish he could be around here more
<1464013>Freja: I know I was agressive in chat, however I send him an e-mail and told I was sorry
<12410876>Pinkerton: PKers are merely getting lazy and want victims on a silver platter
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: no im tired of Bennu selecting events in SAFE ZONES, I play siege for a reason
<15141313>etherealman: yep
<8988222>Mesanna: I respect that Freja
<5512560>Delores Duende: they were mad we didnt wear good stuff
<1464013>Freja: I believe the PK's worked hard to get their reward so that is BS Kelmo
<10176735>Creeger: Wasn't that the first one in a guard zone?
<5512560>Delores Duende: think so
<12410876>Pinkerton: Bennu's events are geared towards the majority on the current Siege population
<15141313>etherealman: getting back to game. take care messana
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: NO MORE EVENTS IN GUARD ZONES, PERIOD.
<8988222>Mesanna: ok I can see where he comes off a little strong
<10176735>Creeger: Wow...got tired of that fast!
<1464013>Freja: The problem is, Siege is not a PvM shard
<10775185>LKatana: missed the event so didnt she or hear what happened
<8988222>Mesanna: ask him I almost killed him when I first hired him
<8988222>Mesanna: so I get that but he is a good guy
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: NO MORE EVENTS IN GUARD ZONES, PERIOD.
<10775185>LKatana: but did see the after math
<17347657>Shovel: *chuckles*
<12410876>Pinkerton: The problem is you no longer understand Siege Freja
<1464013>Freja: lol
<10775185>LKatana: several people were saying he was rude and many other things
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: PINKERTON STFU
<1464013>Freja: that because Siege is not Perilous more
<10775185>LKatana: but like i said with not seeing it as it happened i could be nothing to it
<1464013>Freja: I want the challenge back
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: Freja is the queen of this shard, how dare u speak to her like that
<8988222>Mesanna: tell him what you want I am sure he can work something up
<10176735>Creeger: You died like 7 times at that even, Freja...
<1464013>Freja: I'm not a carebear
<10176735>Creeger:
<10176735>Creeger: Just saying, it wasn't a carebear event.
<1464013>Freja: not?
<10176735>Creeger:
<1464013>Freja: Heavy monster and town zone
<17347657>Shovel: I want tacos
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: NO MORE EVENTS IN GUARD ZONES, PERIOD.
<17347657>Shovel: come again
<1464013>Freja: only us few orange was in danger
<10775185>LKatana: the crazy crap EM's throw at us for monsters i really cant get any pictures of silly little
<10176735>Creeger: OK, I gave my answer, I'm outa this conversation. Later y'all.
<15141313>etherealman: I dont think you guys understand. Guard zone makes it harder - thats what u want right?
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: are you dumb?
<10775185>LKatana: bears with fuzzy feeling pictures tatued on their bellies
<1464013>Freja: one problem, the Boss looted and item are very hard to replace here
<1464013>Freja: I lost 2 suit toHI-5 and 2 to that stupid Boss
<10775185>LKatana: though the movie grimilins seems more to the EM monsters
<15141313>etherealman: well messana, this is pretty much how the event went - a couple ppl going off the deep end. =)
<12157169>Balthazar Mortis: maybe a balance of pvp & pvm events
<5512560>Delores Duende: yea last couple events the monster loots
<5512560>Delores Duende: I came prepared to watch
<1464013>Freja: I believe Benni just need to be more open to listen to us
<12410876>Pinkerton: I think Bennu understands Siege just fine. This is not merely a PvP shard.
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: yes it actually is
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: you want pvm go to prodo
<12157169>Balthazar Mortis: correct on pinky
<1464013>Freja: I don't think he do, he need to listen to all
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: you want trammel go to prodo
<1464013>Freja: it is Siege
<8988222>Mesanna: you know standing on the outside here, it seems Siege is split into
<1464013>Freja: yes sadly
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: yeah you have the predators and the prey
<12157169>Balthazar Mortis: Make a mix of PvP and PvM - problem solved
<1464013>Freja: it is about the VvV artifacts
<1464013>Freja: Bennu just got trapped in that war
<8988222>Mesanna: you in UO you have always had that Ol'Dirty
<5512560>Delores Duende: dont have any big prize at the end
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: yeah but its not like it used to be, thats why I play siege
<1464013>Freja: I know I was against them at first, but game have changed alot
<8988222>Mesanna: but somehow we have to figure out how to do events for everyone
<12410876>Pinkerton: You can never look back. Siege is evolving
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: just stick to the true spirit of Siege
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: NO MORE EVENTS IN GUARD ZONES, PERIOD.
<1464013>Freja: It is not possible to makeall happy
<12157169>Balthazar Mortis: Make a mix of PvP and PvM - problem solved
<8988222>Mesanna: I feel Bennu is open to suggestions, but I have to say I won't let him be abused
<5512560>Delores Duende: or just a crafting event
<8988222>Mesanna: we are all adults
<8988222>Mesanna: having an opinion is wonderful and encouraged
<1464013>Freja: I understand that, I will not do that again
<12410876>Pinkerton: *smiles*
<8988222>Mesanna: being agressive rude to get your point across is not
<8988222>Mesanna: I am speaking in general guys
<1464013>Freja: I'm very sorry
<15141313>etherealman: Just kill the events. I'd rather be rid of them then have this banter in chat once a month
<8988222>Mesanna: that goes for both sides
<8988222>Mesanna: If my EM's step out of line I want to know about it
<12410876>Pinkerton: Most of these guys complaining are PKs, not PvPers
<8988222>Mesanna: well I can't let a complaint go without coming to the shard and talking to the players
<12410876>Pinkerton: Thank you
<8988222>Mesanna: so I get a better idea of what the feel of the shard is
<1464013>Freja: thank you
<8988222>Mesanna: I will relay the feelings of what you guys have said to him
<8988222>Mesanna: but I think I would like to give you guys more time to work out your relationship
<8988222>Mesanna: sound fair?
<1464013>Freja: I believe I was angry because we was 3 non HI-5 VvV and we was the only one they could
<1464013>Freja: kill and loot
<10775185>LKatana: tell that em to get his but on here so we can take him to coffee
<1464013>Freja: Smiles
<12157169>Balthazar Mortis: Make a mix of PvP and PvM - problem solved
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: bye mom
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: love you
<1464013>Freja: Baltimor, the problem stick deeper, Bennu just got trapped in shard problems
<12410876>Pinkerton: problems... *laughs*
<1464013>Freja: we really need items to be better balanced vs no item insurance here
<10775185>LKatana: you could realy make the pk's happy and grant a 1 hour bless to your full suit of armor
<10775185>LKatana: during em events
<1464013>Freja: Kelmo I know you don't want more PvP here but it is Siege
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: kelmo youre pathetic
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: go play in trammel
<12410876>Pinkerton: I relish PvP
<1464013>Freja: no more bless items, just easier to replace stuff
<8988222>Mesanna: thank you for talking to me everyone, I have a few meetings to go to
<10775185>LKatana: it was a joke
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: bye mom
<12410876>Pinkerton: But using exploits to enter houses is not PvP.
<8988222>Mesanna: and get ready for publish 95 on TC1 this week
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: BYE MOM. LOVE YOU
<1464013>Freja: VvV artifacs, Fel bonus and 1000+ luck on all facet
<12157169>Balthazar Mortis: nice to meet you ma'am
<1464013>Freja: waves
<10775185>LKatana: there is been so much excitement for that pub
<8988222>Mesanna: Nice talking to you guys also
<12410876>Pinkerton: No vending machine artifacts! >.<
<10775185>LKatana: cant wait to check it out on tc1
<8988222>Mesanna: should be fun Freja
<1464013>Freja: kelmo you are very stubborn
<1464013>Freja: Smiles
<10775185>LKatana: setting up my crafting vendor
<12410876>Pinkerton: Thanks for notibing
<10775185>LKatana: in preps for that
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: kelmo you had better pray my pk friends dont see u out and about
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: cause im putting a KoS and loot order on your head
<1464013>Freja: I do hope we get some help for this new BoD stuff
<12410876>Pinkerton: Woot!
<10775185>LKatana: ill be hitting tc1 to lear it as soon as it hits
<12410876>Pinkerton: and changes what? I am always KOS to you kut.
<8879783>EM Bennu: Thanks for talking to Mesanna, I just logged on.
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: NO MORE EVENTS IN GUARD ZONES, PERIOD.
<8879783>EM Bennu: Player complaints are always taken seriously, which is why I always say to email mesanna
<10775185>LKatana: and will be setting up a magincia vendor to help people get the supplies to do them
<8879783>EM Bennu: if there is an issue.
<12410876>Pinkerton: Hi Bennu
<12157169>Balthazar Mortis: Make a mix of PvP and PvM - problem solved
<1464013>Freja: Sorry for my bad way to act in chat last event
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: NO MORE EVENTS IN GUARD ZONES, PERIOD.!!!! PLZ
<12157169>Balthazar Mortis: Make a mix of PvP and PvM - problem solved
<8879783>EM Bennu: I know Freja, events, especially on Siege can be very high stress sometimes.
<1464013>Freja: old dirty, please do not yell
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: AND NO BOSS LOOTING PLZ
<8879783>EM Bennu: I can't turn off boss looting, Ive asked.
<8879783>EM Bennu: I do not believe it is possible.
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: alright well thats cool
<8879783>EM Bennu: If Im wrong, Id very much like to know that.
<1464013>Freja: yes the boss do looting was hard, one lost armor piece and suit is ruined
<8879783>EM Bennu: Ill play with a few more base templates and see if I can find one that will work that doesnt loot
<8879783>EM Bennu: I agree, boss looting is horrible.
<8879783>EM Bennu: But it may not be possible to remove it, mechanics wise.
<1464013>Freja: I believe you looked much at Siege as Atlantic Felucca, I could be wrong
<12157169>Balthazar Mortis: prior events on prodo shards had bosses that did not loot - copy them over then
<12410876>Pinkerton: *shakes head*
<1464013>Freja: Alot make Siege different
<8879783>EM Bennu: To be hones twith you Freja, I see Siege as the 'perfect' ruleset server.
<8879783>EM Bennu: That is why I volunteered to come here.
<1464013>Freja: Smiles
<9945789>Shadow Walker: hello Bennu
<8879783>EM Bennu: I actually really like the ruleset here.
<8879783>EM Bennu: I just happened to show up with you guys in the middle of a civil war.
<1464013>Freja: we just have a problem with replacing items
<12410876>Pinkerton: The majority of Siege appeciates yer efforts
<8879783>EM Bennu: So Ill wade through it with you, till things get settled.
<1464013>Freja: yes you got traped in it
<12410876>Pinkerton: did not get trapped
<8879783>EM Bennu: Ill attempt to not be so arrogant, its a personality fault and how I react to stress.
<12410876>Pinkerton: Bennu chose us
<9945789>Shadow Walker: advisor shadow walker here glad to see you
<8879783>EM Bennu: Part of that thick skin I have lol
<12410876>Pinkerton: Hi ya Walker
<1464013>Freja: we all have our bad sides, noone is perfect
[Guild][VvV]: A Battle between Vice and Virtue is active! To Arms! The City of Jhelom is besieged!
<1464013>Freja: Don't give up on us
<12157169>Balthazar Mortis: Make some events PvP, and make some events PvM Bennu - this will solve the problems
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: no thats stupid
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: I should have to be able to only attend half the events
<12410876>Pinkerton: That is pretty harsh ODB
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: shoildnt
<1464013>Freja: I don't think it is that easy Baltazar, we had event outside guard zone before
<12157169>Balthazar Mortis: i dont understand why half and half wont work?
<1464013>Freja: I remember several, where there was fighting but all respected the event and did not loot
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: because I dont pvm, and my chars are orange?
<12410876>Pinkerton: Yer choice
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: yer choice to go play ATL if u want safe tram events
<1464013>Freja: outside Guard Zone, it is fair for all
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: this is Siege damnit
<12410876>Pinkerton: I know that
<12157169>Balthazar Mortis: half & half wont solve all problem, but it will help a lot
<8879783>EM Bennu: We had 1 guardzone event and 3 out...
<8879783>EM Bennu: I dont think having 1 guardzone event in 10 on siege is out of bounds
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: the problem with in gz is its EXTREMELY unfair for a few players
<12410876>Pinkerton: These guys do not care about balance
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: while outside is free for all
<12157169>Balthazar Mortis: Bennu, look for the grey area - this is will work for the most part
<1464013>Freja: I still believe the main problem was the war we have going on
<1464013>Freja: I believe only the players of Siege can solve that
<1464013>Freja: some need to be less stubborn
<8879783>EM Bennu: Siege is certainly in the middle of a civil war.
<12410876>Pinkerton: *chuckles*
<12157169>Balthazar Mortis: I dont care much weather or not the event is pvp or pvm, the lag is what kills it for me
<1464013>Freja: this civil war sure not make it easier to be an EM here
<12410876>Pinkerton: what civil war? That is such a silly overstatement
<12157169>Balthazar Mortis: The solutin is in the middle ground - some will want all pvp, others want all pvm - make both even
<1464013>Freja: if people had been less stubborn, it had been over long ago
<5488137>sabatina: less stubborn about what
<1464013>Freja: remember I was one who fighted very hard against VvV artifacts
<12410876>Pinkerton: good call
<1464013>Freja: and I did get killed and looted for it too but I reacted different
<12410876>Pinkerton: This is Siege remember
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: trust me you dont want vvv artis here
<5488137>sabatina: so because one guild wants vvv arties and the rest of the shard does not means we are stubborn
<12410876>Pinkerton: *nods*
<1464013>Freja: I sure do
<1464013>Freja: alot want them, we lost so many PvP'ers because of them
<8879783>EM Bennu: I do want to say that I will be incorporating "Siege Chopper 4" in to the next event.
<8879783>EM Bennu: That was hallarious.
<1464013>Freja: only Crafters and PvM'ers survive well
<12410876>Pinkerton: We lost weak PKers
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: ^^
<15141313>etherealman: oh, WB Bennu. Didnt see you pop in
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: you get vvv arties, u get all of hi-5 here
<1464013>Freja: and?
<8879783>EM Bennu: Just chatting ethereal
<15141313>etherealman: =)
<8879783>EM Bennu: Mesanna was here a few min ago
<15141313>etherealman: yep, I had her over for tea ;p
<8879783>EM Bennu: I do hope this war between hi5 and GIL and whoever else gets settled soon
<1464013>Freja: the VvV artifacs should just be cursed
<8988222>Mesanna: good afternoon Siege
<12410876>Pinkerton: *smiles*
<1464013>Freja: Hello Mesanna
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: thats not the real mom
<13804656>Musashi: Hello Messana
<10176735>Creeger: Howdy
<8988222>Mesanna: I would like some feedback please
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: mom?
<17347657>Shovel: oO
<8988222>Mesanna: I have a complaint I need to look into
<1464013>Freja: lets hear
<12410876>Pinkerton: Uh oh...
<8988222>Mesanna: I have a complaint against the EM on Siege
<10176735>Creeger: It wasn't me
<8988222>Mesanna: and I would like to hear your feedback
<12410876>Pinkerton: Bennu?
<8988222>Mesanna: yes
<8988222>Mesanna: do you guys find him rude?
<10176735>Creeger: I was there for that mess.
<5512560>Delores Duende: not at all
<1464013>Freja: I know I was unhappy with the choose of town zone, but else not
<10176735>Creeger: And I think he did fine
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: theres no way this is the real mom, ive seen this hoax on atl too
<1464013>Freja: he is a little arrogant
<10176735>Creeger: A lot of people here were rude to him
<15141313>etherealman: Bennu did a great job with the event. It was two people whining who wouldnt stop.
<1464013>Freja: but Siege is not an easy place for an EM
<8988222>Mesanna: being an EM is not easy period
<17347657>Shovel: No problems here
<15141313>etherealman: bennu handled it as best it could be handled i though
<8988222>Mesanna: its impossible to please everyone
<17347657>Shovel: *nods*
<12410876>Pinkerton: I support Bennu, Does a fine job
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: yah I have a giant complaint that made me quit the EM events
<1464013>Freja: maybe he just need more time to get to know us
<15141313>etherealman: thumbs up for Bennu
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: the events werent in pvp areas, this is Siege damnit, we want more risk
<8988222>Mesanna: I am sure with time Freja you guys can work anything out if you try
<15141313>etherealman: Each event is different. try the next one
<10176735>Creeger:
<5512560>Delores Duende: wish he could be around here more
<1464013>Freja: I know I was agressive in chat, however I send him an e-mail and told I was sorry
<12410876>Pinkerton: PKers are merely getting lazy and want victims on a silver platter
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: no im tired of Bennu selecting events in SAFE ZONES, I play siege for a reason
<15141313>etherealman: yep
<8988222>Mesanna: I respect that Freja
<5512560>Delores Duende: they were mad we didnt wear good stuff
<1464013>Freja: I believe the PK's worked hard to get their reward so that is BS Kelmo
<10176735>Creeger: Wasn't that the first one in a guard zone?
<5512560>Delores Duende: think so
<12410876>Pinkerton: Bennu's events are geared towards the majority on the current Siege population
<15141313>etherealman: getting back to game. take care messana
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: NO MORE EVENTS IN GUARD ZONES, PERIOD.
<8988222>Mesanna: ok I can see where he comes off a little strong
<10176735>Creeger: Wow...got tired of that fast!
<1464013>Freja: The problem is, Siege is not a PvM shard
<10775185>LKatana: missed the event so didnt she or hear what happened
<8988222>Mesanna: ask him I almost killed him when I first hired him
<8988222>Mesanna: so I get that but he is a good guy
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: NO MORE EVENTS IN GUARD ZONES, PERIOD.
<10775185>LKatana: but did see the after math
<17347657>Shovel: *chuckles*
<12410876>Pinkerton: The problem is you no longer understand Siege Freja
<1464013>Freja: lol
<10775185>LKatana: several people were saying he was rude and many other things
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: PINKERTON STFU
<1464013>Freja: that because Siege is not Perilous more
<10775185>LKatana: but like i said with not seeing it as it happened i could be nothing to it
<1464013>Freja: I want the challenge back
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: Freja is the queen of this shard, how dare u speak to her like that
<8988222>Mesanna: tell him what you want I am sure he can work something up
<10176735>Creeger: You died like 7 times at that even, Freja...
<1464013>Freja: I'm not a carebear
<10176735>Creeger:
<10176735>Creeger: Just saying, it wasn't a carebear event.
<1464013>Freja: not?
<10176735>Creeger:
<1464013>Freja: Heavy monster and town zone
<17347657>Shovel: I want tacos
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: NO MORE EVENTS IN GUARD ZONES, PERIOD.
<17347657>Shovel: come again
<1464013>Freja: only us few orange was in danger
<10775185>LKatana: the crazy crap EM's throw at us for monsters i really cant get any pictures of silly little
<10176735>Creeger: OK, I gave my answer, I'm outa this conversation. Later y'all.
<15141313>etherealman: I dont think you guys understand. Guard zone makes it harder - thats what u want right?
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: are you dumb?
<10775185>LKatana: bears with fuzzy feeling pictures tatued on their bellies
<1464013>Freja: one problem, the Boss looted and item are very hard to replace here
<1464013>Freja: I lost 2 suit toHI-5 and 2 to that stupid Boss
<10775185>LKatana: though the movie grimilins seems more to the EM monsters
<15141313>etherealman: well messana, this is pretty much how the event went - a couple ppl going off the deep end. =)
<12157169>Balthazar Mortis: maybe a balance of pvp & pvm events
<5512560>Delores Duende: yea last couple events the monster loots
<5512560>Delores Duende: I came prepared to watch
<1464013>Freja: I believe Benni just need to be more open to listen to us
<12410876>Pinkerton: I think Bennu understands Siege just fine. This is not merely a PvP shard.
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: yes it actually is
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: you want pvm go to prodo
<12157169>Balthazar Mortis: correct on pinky
<1464013>Freja: I don't think he do, he need to listen to all
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: you want trammel go to prodo
<1464013>Freja: it is Siege
<8988222>Mesanna: you know standing on the outside here, it seems Siege is split into
<1464013>Freja: yes sadly
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: yeah you have the predators and the prey
<12157169>Balthazar Mortis: Make a mix of PvP and PvM - problem solved
<1464013>Freja: it is about the VvV artifacts
<1464013>Freja: Bennu just got trapped in that war
<8988222>Mesanna: you in UO you have always had that Ol'Dirty
<5512560>Delores Duende: dont have any big prize at the end
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: yeah but its not like it used to be, thats why I play siege
<1464013>Freja: I know I was against them at first, but game have changed alot
<8988222>Mesanna: but somehow we have to figure out how to do events for everyone
<12410876>Pinkerton: You can never look back. Siege is evolving
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: just stick to the true spirit of Siege
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: NO MORE EVENTS IN GUARD ZONES, PERIOD.
<1464013>Freja: It is not possible to makeall happy
<12157169>Balthazar Mortis: Make a mix of PvP and PvM - problem solved
<8988222>Mesanna: I feel Bennu is open to suggestions, but I have to say I won't let him be abused
<5512560>Delores Duende: or just a crafting event
<8988222>Mesanna: we are all adults
<8988222>Mesanna: having an opinion is wonderful and encouraged
<1464013>Freja: I understand that, I will not do that again
<12410876>Pinkerton: *smiles*
<8988222>Mesanna: being agressive rude to get your point across is not
<8988222>Mesanna: I am speaking in general guys
<1464013>Freja: I'm very sorry
<15141313>etherealman: Just kill the events. I'd rather be rid of them then have this banter in chat once a month
<8988222>Mesanna: that goes for both sides
<8988222>Mesanna: If my EM's step out of line I want to know about it
<12410876>Pinkerton: Most of these guys complaining are PKs, not PvPers
<8988222>Mesanna: well I can't let a complaint go without coming to the shard and talking to the players
<12410876>Pinkerton: Thank you
<8988222>Mesanna: so I get a better idea of what the feel of the shard is
<1464013>Freja: thank you
<8988222>Mesanna: I will relay the feelings of what you guys have said to him
<8988222>Mesanna: but I think I would like to give you guys more time to work out your relationship
<8988222>Mesanna: sound fair?
<1464013>Freja: I believe I was angry because we was 3 non HI-5 VvV and we was the only one they could
<1464013>Freja: kill and loot
<10775185>LKatana: tell that em to get his but on here so we can take him to coffee
<1464013>Freja: Smiles
<12157169>Balthazar Mortis: Make a mix of PvP and PvM - problem solved
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: bye mom
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: love you
<1464013>Freja: Baltimor, the problem stick deeper, Bennu just got trapped in shard problems
<12410876>Pinkerton: problems... *laughs*
<1464013>Freja: we really need items to be better balanced vs no item insurance here
<10775185>LKatana: you could realy make the pk's happy and grant a 1 hour bless to your full suit of armor
<10775185>LKatana: during em events
<1464013>Freja: Kelmo I know you don't want more PvP here but it is Siege
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: kelmo youre pathetic
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: go play in trammel
<12410876>Pinkerton: I relish PvP
<1464013>Freja: no more bless items, just easier to replace stuff
<8988222>Mesanna: thank you for talking to me everyone, I have a few meetings to go to
<10775185>LKatana: it was a joke
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: bye mom
<12410876>Pinkerton: But using exploits to enter houses is not PvP.
<8988222>Mesanna: and get ready for publish 95 on TC1 this week
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: BYE MOM. LOVE YOU
<1464013>Freja: VvV artifacs, Fel bonus and 1000+ luck on all facet
<12157169>Balthazar Mortis: nice to meet you ma'am
<1464013>Freja: waves
<10775185>LKatana: there is been so much excitement for that pub
<8988222>Mesanna: Nice talking to you guys also
<12410876>Pinkerton: No vending machine artifacts! >.<
<10775185>LKatana: cant wait to check it out on tc1
<8988222>Mesanna: should be fun Freja
<1464013>Freja: kelmo you are very stubborn
<1464013>Freja: Smiles
<10775185>LKatana: setting up my crafting vendor
<12410876>Pinkerton: Thanks for notibing
<10775185>LKatana: in preps for that
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: kelmo you had better pray my pk friends dont see u out and about
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: cause im putting a KoS and loot order on your head
<1464013>Freja: I do hope we get some help for this new BoD stuff
<12410876>Pinkerton: Woot!
<10775185>LKatana: ill be hitting tc1 to lear it as soon as it hits
<12410876>Pinkerton: and changes what? I am always KOS to you kut.
<8879783>EM Bennu: Thanks for talking to Mesanna, I just logged on.
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: NO MORE EVENTS IN GUARD ZONES, PERIOD.
<8879783>EM Bennu: Player complaints are always taken seriously, which is why I always say to email mesanna
<10775185>LKatana: and will be setting up a magincia vendor to help people get the supplies to do them
<8879783>EM Bennu: if there is an issue.
<12410876>Pinkerton: Hi Bennu
<12157169>Balthazar Mortis: Make a mix of PvP and PvM - problem solved
<1464013>Freja: Sorry for my bad way to act in chat last event
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: NO MORE EVENTS IN GUARD ZONES, PERIOD.!!!! PLZ
<12157169>Balthazar Mortis: Make a mix of PvP and PvM - problem solved
<8879783>EM Bennu: I know Freja, events, especially on Siege can be very high stress sometimes.
<1464013>Freja: old dirty, please do not yell
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: AND NO BOSS LOOTING PLZ
<8879783>EM Bennu: I can't turn off boss looting, Ive asked.
<8879783>EM Bennu: I do not believe it is possible.
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: alright well thats cool
<8879783>EM Bennu: If Im wrong, Id very much like to know that.
<1464013>Freja: yes the boss do looting was hard, one lost armor piece and suit is ruined
<8879783>EM Bennu: Ill play with a few more base templates and see if I can find one that will work that doesnt loot
<8879783>EM Bennu: I agree, boss looting is horrible.
<8879783>EM Bennu: But it may not be possible to remove it, mechanics wise.
<1464013>Freja: I believe you looked much at Siege as Atlantic Felucca, I could be wrong
<12157169>Balthazar Mortis: prior events on prodo shards had bosses that did not loot - copy them over then
<12410876>Pinkerton: *shakes head*
<1464013>Freja: Alot make Siege different
<8879783>EM Bennu: To be hones twith you Freja, I see Siege as the 'perfect' ruleset server.
<8879783>EM Bennu: That is why I volunteered to come here.
<1464013>Freja: Smiles
<9945789>Shadow Walker: hello Bennu
<8879783>EM Bennu: I actually really like the ruleset here.
<8879783>EM Bennu: I just happened to show up with you guys in the middle of a civil war.
<1464013>Freja: we just have a problem with replacing items
<12410876>Pinkerton: The majority of Siege appeciates yer efforts
<8879783>EM Bennu: So Ill wade through it with you, till things get settled.
<1464013>Freja: yes you got traped in it
<12410876>Pinkerton: did not get trapped
<8879783>EM Bennu: Ill attempt to not be so arrogant, its a personality fault and how I react to stress.
<12410876>Pinkerton: Bennu chose us
<9945789>Shadow Walker: advisor shadow walker here glad to see you
<8879783>EM Bennu: Part of that thick skin I have lol
<12410876>Pinkerton: Hi ya Walker
<1464013>Freja: we all have our bad sides, noone is perfect
[Guild][VvV]: A Battle between Vice and Virtue is active! To Arms! The City of Jhelom is besieged!
<1464013>Freja: Don't give up on us
<12157169>Balthazar Mortis: Make some events PvP, and make some events PvM Bennu - this will solve the problems
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: no thats stupid
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: I should have to be able to only attend half the events
<12410876>Pinkerton: That is pretty harsh ODB
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: shoildnt
<1464013>Freja: I don't think it is that easy Baltazar, we had event outside guard zone before
<12157169>Balthazar Mortis: i dont understand why half and half wont work?
<1464013>Freja: I remember several, where there was fighting but all respected the event and did not loot
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: because I dont pvm, and my chars are orange?
<12410876>Pinkerton: Yer choice
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: yer choice to go play ATL if u want safe tram events
<1464013>Freja: outside Guard Zone, it is fair for all
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: this is Siege damnit
<12410876>Pinkerton: I know that
<12157169>Balthazar Mortis: half & half wont solve all problem, but it will help a lot
<8879783>EM Bennu: We had 1 guardzone event and 3 out...
<8879783>EM Bennu: I dont think having 1 guardzone event in 10 on siege is out of bounds
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: the problem with in gz is its EXTREMELY unfair for a few players
<12410876>Pinkerton: These guys do not care about balance
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: while outside is free for all
<12157169>Balthazar Mortis: Bennu, look for the grey area - this is will work for the most part
<1464013>Freja: I still believe the main problem was the war we have going on
<1464013>Freja: I believe only the players of Siege can solve that
<1464013>Freja: some need to be less stubborn
<8879783>EM Bennu: Siege is certainly in the middle of a civil war.
<12410876>Pinkerton: *chuckles*
<12157169>Balthazar Mortis: I dont care much weather or not the event is pvp or pvm, the lag is what kills it for me
<1464013>Freja: this civil war sure not make it easier to be an EM here
<12410876>Pinkerton: what civil war? That is such a silly overstatement
<12157169>Balthazar Mortis: The solutin is in the middle ground - some will want all pvp, others want all pvm - make both even
<1464013>Freja: if people had been less stubborn, it had been over long ago
<5488137>sabatina: less stubborn about what
<1464013>Freja: remember I was one who fighted very hard against VvV artifacts
<12410876>Pinkerton: good call
<1464013>Freja: and I did get killed and looted for it too but I reacted different
<12410876>Pinkerton: This is Siege remember
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: trust me you dont want vvv artis here
<5488137>sabatina: so because one guild wants vvv arties and the rest of the shard does not means we are stubborn
<12410876>Pinkerton: *nods*
<1464013>Freja: I sure do
<1464013>Freja: alot want them, we lost so many PvP'ers because of them
<8879783>EM Bennu: I do want to say that I will be incorporating "Siege Chopper 4" in to the next event.
<8879783>EM Bennu: That was hallarious.
<1464013>Freja: only Crafters and PvM'ers survive well
<12410876>Pinkerton: We lost weak PKers
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: ^^
<15141313>etherealman: oh, WB Bennu. Didnt see you pop in
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: you get vvv arties, u get all of hi-5 here
<1464013>Freja: and?
<8879783>EM Bennu: Just chatting ethereal
<15141313>etherealman: =)
<8879783>EM Bennu: Mesanna was here a few min ago
<15141313>etherealman: yep, I had her over for tea ;p
<8879783>EM Bennu: I do hope this war between hi5 and GIL and whoever else gets settled soon
<1464013>Freja: the VvV artifacs should just be cursed