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Mesanna and Bennu visited us yesterday

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*Put on flame suit* Yes I know there is a little to much Freja in this chat and I was not going to post it, but I believe you should see it.

<8988222>Mesanna: good afternoon Siege
<12410876>Pinkerton: *smiles*
<1464013>Freja: Hello Mesanna
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: thats not the real mom
<13804656>Musashi: Hello Messana
<10176735>Creeger: Howdy
<8988222>Mesanna: I would like some feedback please
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: mom?
<17347657>Shovel: oO
<8988222>Mesanna: I have a complaint I need to look into
<1464013>Freja: lets hear
<12410876>Pinkerton: Uh oh...
<8988222>Mesanna: I have a complaint against the EM on Siege
<10176735>Creeger: It wasn't me
<8988222>Mesanna: and I would like to hear your feedback
<12410876>Pinkerton: Bennu?
<8988222>Mesanna: yes
<8988222>Mesanna: do you guys find him rude?
<10176735>Creeger: I was there for that mess.
<5512560>Delores Duende: not at all
<1464013>Freja: I know I was unhappy with the choose of town zone, but else not
<10176735>Creeger: And I think he did fine
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: theres no way this is the real mom, ive seen this hoax on atl too
<1464013>Freja: he is a little arrogant
<10176735>Creeger: A lot of people here were rude to him
<15141313>etherealman: Bennu did a great job with the event. It was two people whining who wouldnt stop.
<1464013>Freja: but Siege is not an easy place for an EM
<8988222>Mesanna: being an EM is not easy period
<17347657>Shovel: No problems here
<15141313>etherealman: bennu handled it as best it could be handled i though
<8988222>Mesanna: its impossible to please everyone
<17347657>Shovel: *nods*
<12410876>Pinkerton: I support Bennu, Does a fine job
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: yah I have a giant complaint that made me quit the EM events
<1464013>Freja: maybe he just need more time to get to know us
<15141313>etherealman: thumbs up for Bennu
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: the events werent in pvp areas, this is Siege damnit, we want more risk
<8988222>Mesanna: I am sure with time Freja you guys can work anything out if you try
<15141313>etherealman: Each event is different. try the next one
<10176735>Creeger:
<5512560>Delores Duende: wish he could be around here more
<1464013>Freja: I know I was agressive in chat, however I send him an e-mail and told I was sorry
<12410876>Pinkerton: PKers are merely getting lazy and want victims on a silver platter
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: no im tired of Bennu selecting events in SAFE ZONES, I play siege for a reason
<15141313>etherealman: yep
<8988222>Mesanna: I respect that Freja
<5512560>Delores Duende: they were mad we didnt wear good stuff
<1464013>Freja: I believe the PK's worked hard to get their reward so that is BS Kelmo
<10176735>Creeger: Wasn't that the first one in a guard zone?
<5512560>Delores Duende: think so
<12410876>Pinkerton: Bennu's events are geared towards the majority on the current Siege population
<15141313>etherealman: getting back to game. take care messana
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: NO MORE EVENTS IN GUARD ZONES, PERIOD.
<8988222>Mesanna: ok I can see where he comes off a little strong
<10176735>Creeger: Wow...got tired of that fast!
<1464013>Freja: The problem is, Siege is not a PvM shard
<10775185>LKatana: missed the event so didnt she or hear what happened
<8988222>Mesanna: ask him I almost killed him when I first hired him
<8988222>Mesanna: so I get that but he is a good guy
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: NO MORE EVENTS IN GUARD ZONES, PERIOD.
<10775185>LKatana: but did see the after math
<17347657>Shovel: *chuckles*
<12410876>Pinkerton: The problem is you no longer understand Siege Freja
<1464013>Freja: lol
<10775185>LKatana: several people were saying he was rude and many other things
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: PINKERTON STFU
<1464013>Freja: that because Siege is not Perilous more
<10775185>LKatana: but like i said with not seeing it as it happened i could be nothing to it
<1464013>Freja: I want the challenge back
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: Freja is the queen of this shard, how dare u speak to her like that
<8988222>Mesanna: tell him what you want I am sure he can work something up
<10176735>Creeger: You died like 7 times at that even, Freja...
<1464013>Freja: I'm not a carebear
<10176735>Creeger:
<10176735>Creeger: Just saying, it wasn't a carebear event.
<1464013>Freja: not?
<10176735>Creeger:
<1464013>Freja: Heavy monster and town zone
<17347657>Shovel: I want tacos
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: NO MORE EVENTS IN GUARD ZONES, PERIOD.
<17347657>Shovel: come again
<1464013>Freja: only us few orange was in danger
<10775185>LKatana: the crazy crap EM's throw at us for monsters i really cant get any pictures of silly little
<10176735>Creeger: OK, I gave my answer, I'm outa this conversation. Later y'all.
<15141313>etherealman: I dont think you guys understand. Guard zone makes it harder - thats what u want right?
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: are you dumb?
<10775185>LKatana: bears with fuzzy feeling pictures tatued on their bellies
<1464013>Freja: one problem, the Boss looted and item are very hard to replace here
<1464013>Freja: I lost 2 suit toHI-5 and 2 to that stupid Boss
<10775185>LKatana: though the movie grimilins seems more to the EM monsters
<15141313>etherealman: well messana, this is pretty much how the event went - a couple ppl going off the deep end. =)
<12157169>Balthazar Mortis: maybe a balance of pvp & pvm events
<5512560>Delores Duende: yea last couple events the monster loots
<5512560>Delores Duende: I came prepared to watch
<1464013>Freja: I believe Benni just need to be more open to listen to us :)
<12410876>Pinkerton: I think Bennu understands Siege just fine. This is not merely a PvP shard.
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: yes it actually is
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: you want pvm go to prodo
<12157169>Balthazar Mortis: correct on pinky
<1464013>Freja: I don't think he do, he need to listen to all
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: you want trammel go to prodo
<1464013>Freja: it is Siege
<8988222>Mesanna: you know standing on the outside here, it seems Siege is split into
<1464013>Freja: yes sadly
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: yeah you have the predators and the prey
<12157169>Balthazar Mortis: Make a mix of PvP and PvM - problem solved
<1464013>Freja: it is about the VvV artifacts
<1464013>Freja: Bennu just got trapped in that war
<8988222>Mesanna: you in UO you have always had that Ol'Dirty
<5512560>Delores Duende: dont have any big prize at the end
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: yeah but its not like it used to be, thats why I play siege
<1464013>Freja: I know I was against them at first, but game have changed alot
<8988222>Mesanna: but somehow we have to figure out how to do events for everyone
<12410876>Pinkerton: You can never look back. Siege is evolving
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: just stick to the true spirit of Siege
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: NO MORE EVENTS IN GUARD ZONES, PERIOD.
<1464013>Freja: It is not possible to makeall happy :(
<12157169>Balthazar Mortis: Make a mix of PvP and PvM - problem solved
<8988222>Mesanna: I feel Bennu is open to suggestions, but I have to say I won't let him be abused
<5512560>Delores Duende: or just a crafting event
<8988222>Mesanna: we are all adults
<8988222>Mesanna: having an opinion is wonderful and encouraged
<1464013>Freja: I understand that, I will not do that again
<12410876>Pinkerton: *smiles*
<8988222>Mesanna: being agressive rude to get your point across is not
<8988222>Mesanna: I am speaking in general guys
<1464013>Freja: I'm very sorry
<15141313>etherealman: Just kill the events. I'd rather be rid of them then have this banter in chat once a month
<8988222>Mesanna: that goes for both sides
<8988222>Mesanna: If my EM's step out of line I want to know about it
<12410876>Pinkerton: Most of these guys complaining are PKs, not PvPers
<8988222>Mesanna: well I can't let a complaint go without coming to the shard and talking to the players
<12410876>Pinkerton: Thank you
<8988222>Mesanna: so I get a better idea of what the feel of the shard is
<1464013>Freja: thank you
<8988222>Mesanna: I will relay the feelings of what you guys have said to him
<8988222>Mesanna: but I think I would like to give you guys more time to work out your relationship
<8988222>Mesanna: sound fair?
<1464013>Freja: I believe I was angry because we was 3 non HI-5 VvV and we was the only one they could
<1464013>Freja: kill and loot
<10775185>LKatana: tell that em to get his but on here so we can take him to coffee
<1464013>Freja: Smiles
<12157169>Balthazar Mortis: Make a mix of PvP and PvM - problem solved
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: bye mom
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: love you
<1464013>Freja: Baltimor, the problem stick deeper, Bennu just got trapped in shard problems
<12410876>Pinkerton: problems... *laughs*
<1464013>Freja: we really need items to be better balanced vs no item insurance here
<10775185>LKatana: you could realy make the pk's happy and grant a 1 hour bless to your full suit of armor
<10775185>LKatana: during em events
<1464013>Freja: Kelmo I know you don't want more PvP here but it is Siege
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: kelmo youre pathetic
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: go play in trammel
<12410876>Pinkerton: I relish PvP
<1464013>Freja: no more bless items, just easier to replace stuff
<8988222>Mesanna: thank you for talking to me everyone, I have a few meetings to go to
<10775185>LKatana: it was a joke
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: bye mom
<12410876>Pinkerton: But using exploits to enter houses is not PvP.
<8988222>Mesanna: and get ready for publish 95 on TC1 this week
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: BYE MOM. LOVE YOU
<1464013>Freja: VvV artifacs, Fel bonus and 1000+ luck on all facet
<12157169>Balthazar Mortis: nice to meet you ma'am
<1464013>Freja: waves
<10775185>LKatana: there is been so much excitement for that pub
<8988222>Mesanna: Nice talking to you guys also
<12410876>Pinkerton: No vending machine artifacts! >.<
<10775185>LKatana: cant wait to check it out on tc1
<8988222>Mesanna: should be fun Freja
<1464013>Freja: kelmo you are very stubborn
<1464013>Freja: Smiles
<10775185>LKatana: setting up my crafting vendor
<12410876>Pinkerton: Thanks for notibing
<10775185>LKatana: in preps for that
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: kelmo you had better pray my pk friends dont see u out and about
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: cause im putting a KoS and loot order on your head
<1464013>Freja: I do hope we get some help for this new BoD stuff :)
<12410876>Pinkerton: Woot!
<10775185>LKatana: ill be hitting tc1 to lear it as soon as it hits
<12410876>Pinkerton: and changes what? I am always KOS to you kut.
<8879783>EM Bennu: Thanks for talking to Mesanna, I just logged on.
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: NO MORE EVENTS IN GUARD ZONES, PERIOD.
<8879783>EM Bennu: Player complaints are always taken seriously, which is why I always say to email mesanna
<10775185>LKatana: and will be setting up a magincia vendor to help people get the supplies to do them
<8879783>EM Bennu: if there is an issue.
<12410876>Pinkerton: Hi Bennu
<12157169>Balthazar Mortis: Make a mix of PvP and PvM - problem solved
<1464013>Freja: Sorry for my bad way to act in chat last event
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: NO MORE EVENTS IN GUARD ZONES, PERIOD.!!!! PLZ
<12157169>Balthazar Mortis: Make a mix of PvP and PvM - problem solved
<8879783>EM Bennu: I know Freja, events, especially on Siege can be very high stress sometimes.
<1464013>Freja: old dirty, please do not yell
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: AND NO BOSS LOOTING PLZ
<8879783>EM Bennu: I can't turn off boss looting, Ive asked.
<8879783>EM Bennu: I do not believe it is possible.
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: alright well thats cool
<8879783>EM Bennu: If Im wrong, Id very much like to know that.
<1464013>Freja: yes the boss do looting was hard, one lost armor piece and suit is ruined
<8879783>EM Bennu: Ill play with a few more base templates and see if I can find one that will work that doesnt loot
<8879783>EM Bennu: I agree, boss looting is horrible.
<8879783>EM Bennu: But it may not be possible to remove it, mechanics wise.
<1464013>Freja: I believe you looked much at Siege as Atlantic Felucca, I could be wrong
<12157169>Balthazar Mortis: prior events on prodo shards had bosses that did not loot - copy them over then
<12410876>Pinkerton: *shakes head*
<1464013>Freja: Alot make Siege different
<8879783>EM Bennu: To be hones twith you Freja, I see Siege as the 'perfect' ruleset server.
<8879783>EM Bennu: That is why I volunteered to come here.
<1464013>Freja: Smiles
<9945789>Shadow Walker: hello Bennu
<8879783>EM Bennu: I actually really like the ruleset here.
<8879783>EM Bennu: I just happened to show up with you guys in the middle of a civil war.
<1464013>Freja: we just have a problem with replacing items
<12410876>Pinkerton: The majority of Siege appeciates yer efforts
<8879783>EM Bennu: So Ill wade through it with you, till things get settled.
<1464013>Freja: yes you got traped in it
<12410876>Pinkerton: did not get trapped
<8879783>EM Bennu: Ill attempt to not be so arrogant, its a personality fault and how I react to stress.
<12410876>Pinkerton: Bennu chose us
<9945789>Shadow Walker: advisor shadow walker here glad to see you
<8879783>EM Bennu: Part of that thick skin I have lol
<12410876>Pinkerton: Hi ya Walker
<1464013>Freja: we all have our bad sides, noone is perfect
[Guild][VvV]: A Battle between Vice and Virtue is active! To Arms! The City of Jhelom is besieged!
<1464013>Freja: Don't give up on us :)
<12157169>Balthazar Mortis: Make some events PvP, and make some events PvM Bennu - this will solve the problems
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: no thats stupid
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: I should have to be able to only attend half the events
<12410876>Pinkerton: That is pretty harsh ODB
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: shoildnt
<1464013>Freja: I don't think it is that easy Baltazar, we had event outside guard zone before
<12157169>Balthazar Mortis: i dont understand why half and half wont work?
<1464013>Freja: I remember several, where there was fighting but all respected the event and did not loot
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: because I dont pvm, and my chars are orange?
<12410876>Pinkerton: Yer choice
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: yer choice to go play ATL if u want safe tram events
<1464013>Freja: outside Guard Zone, it is fair for all
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: this is Siege damnit
<12410876>Pinkerton: I know that
<12157169>Balthazar Mortis: half & half wont solve all problem, but it will help a lot
<8879783>EM Bennu: We had 1 guardzone event and 3 out...
<8879783>EM Bennu: I dont think having 1 guardzone event in 10 on siege is out of bounds :p
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: the problem with in gz is its EXTREMELY unfair for a few players
<12410876>Pinkerton: These guys do not care about balance
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: while outside is free for all
<12157169>Balthazar Mortis: Bennu, look for the grey area - this is will work for the most part
<1464013>Freja: I still believe the main problem was the war we have going on
<1464013>Freja: I believe only the players of Siege can solve that
<1464013>Freja: some need to be less stubborn :p
<8879783>EM Bennu: Siege is certainly in the middle of a civil war.
<12410876>Pinkerton: *chuckles*
<12157169>Balthazar Mortis: I dont care much weather or not the event is pvp or pvm, the lag is what kills it for me
<1464013>Freja: this civil war sure not make it easier to be an EM here
<12410876>Pinkerton: what civil war? That is such a silly overstatement
<12157169>Balthazar Mortis: The solutin is in the middle ground - some will want all pvp, others want all pvm - make both even
<1464013>Freja: if people had been less stubborn, it had been over long ago
<5488137>sabatina: less stubborn about what
<1464013>Freja: remember I was one who fighted very hard against VvV artifacts
<12410876>Pinkerton: good call
<1464013>Freja: and I did get killed and looted for it too but I reacted different
<12410876>Pinkerton: This is Siege remember
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: trust me you dont want vvv artis here
<5488137>sabatina: so because one guild wants vvv arties and the rest of the shard does not means we are stubborn
<12410876>Pinkerton: *nods*
<1464013>Freja: I sure do
<1464013>Freja: alot want them, we lost so many PvP'ers because of them
<8879783>EM Bennu: I do want to say that I will be incorporating "Siege Chopper 4" in to the next event.
<8879783>EM Bennu: That was hallarious.
<1464013>Freja: only Crafters and PvM'ers survive well
<12410876>Pinkerton: We lost weak PKers
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: ^^
<15141313>etherealman: oh, WB Bennu. Didnt see you pop in
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: you get vvv arties, u get all of hi-5 here
<1464013>Freja: and?
<8879783>EM Bennu: Just chatting ethereal
<15141313>etherealman: =)
<8879783>EM Bennu: Mesanna was here a few min ago
<15141313>etherealman: yep, I had her over for tea ;p
<8879783>EM Bennu: I do hope this war between hi5 and GIL and whoever else gets settled soon
<1464013>Freja: the VvV artifacs should just be cursed
 

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No idea who complained. I am glad both Mesanna and Bennu did show. Lets all give him a chance and help making the events work.
 

Sargatanza

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In my purely existential opinion, I am inclined to believe that event prepared by the master must be not just hunting and mess, and more than that, especially as they are quite rare!
 

FrejaSP

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I just did not see any reason for it, I feel there is 20+ shards, where you can do event safe.
 

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There are 20+ shards with easy artifacts.
 

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I just did not see any reason for it, I feel there is 20+ shards, where you can do event safe.
20 plus shards i've never been on, i've probably been here on this shard longer then you have. What's wrong with 1 out of 10 events being done in the guard zone or is this game only about how YOU want to play it? You don't have to go to an event just like when it's out of the guard zone I don't have to go to an event.

furthermore why do we have guard zones on siege? is this not how they envisioned it when they first made siege? should we not have gaurd zones because YOU think that's not what siege is all about?
 

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<8879783>EM Bennu: I do want to say that I will be incorporating "Siege Chopper 4" in to the next event.
<8879783>EM Bennu: That was hallarious.
I'm pretty full with bookings recently but I'm sure I can squeeze you in.
 

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<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: kelmo you had better pray my pk friends dont see u out and about
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: cause im putting a KoS and loot order on your head

How is that working out for you?
 

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*Put on flame suit* Yes I know there is a little to much Freja in this chat and I was not going to post it, but I believe you should see it.

<8988222>Mesanna: good afternoon Siege
<12410876>Pinkerton: *smiles*
<1464013>Freja: Hello Mesanna
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: thats not the real mom
<13804656>Musashi: Hello Messana
<10176735>Creeger: Howdy
<8988222>Mesanna: I would like some feedback please
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: mom?
<17347657>Shovel: oO
<8988222>Mesanna: I have a complaint I need to look into
<1464013>Freja: lets hear
<12410876>Pinkerton: Uh oh...
<8988222>Mesanna: I have a complaint against the EM on Siege
<10176735>Creeger: It wasn't me
<8988222>Mesanna: and I would like to hear your feedback
<12410876>Pinkerton: Bennu?
<8988222>Mesanna: yes
<8988222>Mesanna: do you guys find him rude?
<10176735>Creeger: I was there for that mess.
<5512560>Delores Duende: not at all
<1464013>Freja: I know I was unhappy with the choose of town zone, but else not
<10176735>Creeger: And I think he did fine
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: theres no way this is the real mom, ive seen this hoax on atl too
<1464013>Freja: he is a little arrogant
<10176735>Creeger: A lot of people here were rude to him
<15141313>etherealman: Bennu did a great job with the event. It was two people whining who wouldnt stop.
<1464013>Freja: but Siege is not an easy place for an EM
<8988222>Mesanna: being an EM is not easy period
<17347657>Shovel: No problems here
<15141313>etherealman: bennu handled it as best it could be handled i though
<8988222>Mesanna: its impossible to please everyone
<17347657>Shovel: *nods*
<12410876>Pinkerton: I support Bennu, Does a fine job
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: yah I have a giant complaint that made me quit the EM events
<1464013>Freja: maybe he just need more time to get to know us
<15141313>etherealman: thumbs up for Bennu
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: the events werent in pvp areas, this is Siege damnit, we want more risk
<8988222>Mesanna: I am sure with time Freja you guys can work anything out if you try
<15141313>etherealman: Each event is different. try the next one
<10176735>Creeger:
<5512560>Delores Duende: wish he could be around here more
<1464013>Freja: I know I was agressive in chat, however I send him an e-mail and told I was sorry
<12410876>Pinkerton: PKers are merely getting lazy and want victims on a silver platter
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: no im tired of Bennu selecting events in SAFE ZONES, I play siege for a reason
<15141313>etherealman: yep
<8988222>Mesanna: I respect that Freja
<5512560>Delores Duende: they were mad we didnt wear good stuff
<1464013>Freja: I believe the PK's worked hard to get their reward so that is BS Kelmo
<10176735>Creeger: Wasn't that the first one in a guard zone?
<5512560>Delores Duende: think so
<12410876>Pinkerton: Bennu's events are geared towards the majority on the current Siege population
<15141313>etherealman: getting back to game. take care messana
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: NO MORE EVENTS IN GUARD ZONES, PERIOD.
<8988222>Mesanna: ok I can see where he comes off a little strong
<10176735>Creeger: Wow...got tired of that fast!
<1464013>Freja: The problem is, Siege is not a PvM shard
<10775185>LKatana: missed the event so didnt she or hear what happened
<8988222>Mesanna: ask him I almost killed him when I first hired him
<8988222>Mesanna: so I get that but he is a good guy
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: NO MORE EVENTS IN GUARD ZONES, PERIOD.
<10775185>LKatana: but did see the after math
<17347657>Shovel: *chuckles*
<12410876>Pinkerton: The problem is you no longer understand Siege Freja
<1464013>Freja: lol
<10775185>LKatana: several people were saying he was rude and many other things
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: PINKERTON STFU
<1464013>Freja: that because Siege is not Perilous more
<10775185>LKatana: but like i said with not seeing it as it happened i could be nothing to it
<1464013>Freja: I want the challenge back
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: Freja is the queen of this shard, how dare u speak to her like that
<8988222>Mesanna: tell him what you want I am sure he can work something up
<10176735>Creeger: You died like 7 times at that even, Freja...
<1464013>Freja: I'm not a carebear
<10176735>Creeger:
<10176735>Creeger: Just saying, it wasn't a carebear event.
<1464013>Freja: not?
<10176735>Creeger:
<1464013>Freja: Heavy monster and town zone
<17347657>Shovel: I want tacos
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: NO MORE EVENTS IN GUARD ZONES, PERIOD.
<17347657>Shovel: come again
<1464013>Freja: only us few orange was in danger
<10775185>LKatana: the crazy crap EM's throw at us for monsters i really cant get any pictures of silly little
<10176735>Creeger: OK, I gave my answer, I'm outa this conversation. Later y'all.
<15141313>etherealman: I dont think you guys understand. Guard zone makes it harder - thats what u want right?
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: are you dumb?
<10775185>LKatana: bears with fuzzy feeling pictures tatued on their bellies
<1464013>Freja: one problem, the Boss looted and item are very hard to replace here
<1464013>Freja: I lost 2 suit toHI-5 and 2 to that stupid Boss
<10775185>LKatana: though the movie grimilins seems more to the EM monsters
<15141313>etherealman: well messana, this is pretty much how the event went - a couple ppl going off the deep end. =)
<12157169>Balthazar Mortis: maybe a balance of pvp & pvm events
<5512560>Delores Duende: yea last couple events the monster loots
<5512560>Delores Duende: I came prepared to watch
<1464013>Freja: I believe Benni just need to be more open to listen to us :)
<12410876>Pinkerton: I think Bennu understands Siege just fine. This is not merely a PvP shard.
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: yes it actually is
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: you want pvm go to prodo
<12157169>Balthazar Mortis: correct on pinky
<1464013>Freja: I don't think he do, he need to listen to all
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: you want trammel go to prodo
<1464013>Freja: it is Siege
<8988222>Mesanna: you know standing on the outside here, it seems Siege is split into
<1464013>Freja: yes sadly
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: yeah you have the predators and the prey
<12157169>Balthazar Mortis: Make a mix of PvP and PvM - problem solved
<1464013>Freja: it is about the VvV artifacts
<1464013>Freja: Bennu just got trapped in that war
<8988222>Mesanna: you in UO you have always had that Ol'Dirty
<5512560>Delores Duende: dont have any big prize at the end
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: yeah but its not like it used to be, thats why I play siege
<1464013>Freja: I know I was against them at first, but game have changed alot
<8988222>Mesanna: but somehow we have to figure out how to do events for everyone
<12410876>Pinkerton: You can never look back. Siege is evolving
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: just stick to the true spirit of Siege
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: NO MORE EVENTS IN GUARD ZONES, PERIOD.
<1464013>Freja: It is not possible to makeall happy :(
<12157169>Balthazar Mortis: Make a mix of PvP and PvM - problem solved
<8988222>Mesanna: I feel Bennu is open to suggestions, but I have to say I won't let him be abused
<5512560>Delores Duende: or just a crafting event
<8988222>Mesanna: we are all adults
<8988222>Mesanna: having an opinion is wonderful and encouraged
<1464013>Freja: I understand that, I will not do that again
<12410876>Pinkerton: *smiles*
<8988222>Mesanna: being agressive rude to get your point across is not
<8988222>Mesanna: I am speaking in general guys
<1464013>Freja: I'm very sorry
<15141313>etherealman: Just kill the events. I'd rather be rid of them then have this banter in chat once a month
<8988222>Mesanna: that goes for both sides
<8988222>Mesanna: If my EM's step out of line I want to know about it
<12410876>Pinkerton: Most of these guys complaining are PKs, not PvPers
<8988222>Mesanna: well I can't let a complaint go without coming to the shard and talking to the players
<12410876>Pinkerton: Thank you
<8988222>Mesanna: so I get a better idea of what the feel of the shard is
<1464013>Freja: thank you
<8988222>Mesanna: I will relay the feelings of what you guys have said to him
<8988222>Mesanna: but I think I would like to give you guys more time to work out your relationship
<8988222>Mesanna: sound fair?
<1464013>Freja: I believe I was angry because we was 3 non HI-5 VvV and we was the only one they could
<1464013>Freja: kill and loot
<10775185>LKatana: tell that em to get his but on here so we can take him to coffee
<1464013>Freja: Smiles
<12157169>Balthazar Mortis: Make a mix of PvP and PvM - problem solved
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: bye mom
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: love you
<1464013>Freja: Baltimor, the problem stick deeper, Bennu just got trapped in shard problems
<12410876>Pinkerton: problems... *laughs*
<1464013>Freja: we really need items to be better balanced vs no item insurance here
<10775185>LKatana: you could realy make the pk's happy and grant a 1 hour bless to your full suit of armor
<10775185>LKatana: during em events
<1464013>Freja: Kelmo I know you don't want more PvP here but it is Siege
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: kelmo youre pathetic
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: go play in trammel
<12410876>Pinkerton: I relish PvP
<1464013>Freja: no more bless items, just easier to replace stuff
<8988222>Mesanna: thank you for talking to me everyone, I have a few meetings to go to
<10775185>LKatana: it was a joke
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: bye mom
<12410876>Pinkerton: But using exploits to enter houses is not PvP.
<8988222>Mesanna: and get ready for publish 95 on TC1 this week
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: BYE MOM. LOVE YOU
<1464013>Freja: VvV artifacs, Fel bonus and 1000+ luck on all facet
<12157169>Balthazar Mortis: nice to meet you ma'am
<1464013>Freja: waves
<10775185>LKatana: there is been so much excitement for that pub
<8988222>Mesanna: Nice talking to you guys also
<12410876>Pinkerton: No vending machine artifacts! >.<
<10775185>LKatana: cant wait to check it out on tc1
<8988222>Mesanna: should be fun Freja
<1464013>Freja: kelmo you are very stubborn
<1464013>Freja: Smiles
<10775185>LKatana: setting up my crafting vendor
<12410876>Pinkerton: Thanks for notibing
<10775185>LKatana: in preps for that
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: kelmo you had better pray my pk friends dont see u out and about
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: cause im putting a KoS and loot order on your head
<1464013>Freja: I do hope we get some help for this new BoD stuff :)
<12410876>Pinkerton: Woot!
<10775185>LKatana: ill be hitting tc1 to lear it as soon as it hits
<12410876>Pinkerton: and changes what? I am always KOS to you kut.
<8879783>EM Bennu: Thanks for talking to Mesanna, I just logged on.
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: NO MORE EVENTS IN GUARD ZONES, PERIOD.
<8879783>EM Bennu: Player complaints are always taken seriously, which is why I always say to email mesanna
<10775185>LKatana: and will be setting up a magincia vendor to help people get the supplies to do them
<8879783>EM Bennu: if there is an issue.
<12410876>Pinkerton: Hi Bennu
<12157169>Balthazar Mortis: Make a mix of PvP and PvM - problem solved
<1464013>Freja: Sorry for my bad way to act in chat last event
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: NO MORE EVENTS IN GUARD ZONES, PERIOD.!!!! PLZ
<12157169>Balthazar Mortis: Make a mix of PvP and PvM - problem solved
<8879783>EM Bennu: I know Freja, events, especially on Siege can be very high stress sometimes.
<1464013>Freja: old dirty, please do not yell
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: AND NO BOSS LOOTING PLZ
<8879783>EM Bennu: I can't turn off boss looting, Ive asked.
<8879783>EM Bennu: I do not believe it is possible.
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: alright well thats cool
<8879783>EM Bennu: If Im wrong, Id very much like to know that.
<1464013>Freja: yes the boss do looting was hard, one lost armor piece and suit is ruined
<8879783>EM Bennu: Ill play with a few more base templates and see if I can find one that will work that doesnt loot
<8879783>EM Bennu: I agree, boss looting is horrible.
<8879783>EM Bennu: But it may not be possible to remove it, mechanics wise.
<1464013>Freja: I believe you looked much at Siege as Atlantic Felucca, I could be wrong
<12157169>Balthazar Mortis: prior events on prodo shards had bosses that did not loot - copy them over then
<12410876>Pinkerton: *shakes head*
<1464013>Freja: Alot make Siege different
<8879783>EM Bennu: To be hones twith you Freja, I see Siege as the 'perfect' ruleset server.
<8879783>EM Bennu: That is why I volunteered to come here.
<1464013>Freja: Smiles
<9945789>Shadow Walker: hello Bennu
<8879783>EM Bennu: I actually really like the ruleset here.
<8879783>EM Bennu: I just happened to show up with you guys in the middle of a civil war.
<1464013>Freja: we just have a problem with replacing items
<12410876>Pinkerton: The majority of Siege appeciates yer efforts
<8879783>EM Bennu: So Ill wade through it with you, till things get settled.
<1464013>Freja: yes you got traped in it
<12410876>Pinkerton: did not get trapped
<8879783>EM Bennu: Ill attempt to not be so arrogant, its a personality fault and how I react to stress.
<12410876>Pinkerton: Bennu chose us
<9945789>Shadow Walker: advisor shadow walker here glad to see you
<8879783>EM Bennu: Part of that thick skin I have lol
<12410876>Pinkerton: Hi ya Walker
<1464013>Freja: we all have our bad sides, noone is perfect
[Guild][VvV]: A Battle between Vice and Virtue is active! To Arms! The City of Jhelom is besieged!
<1464013>Freja: Don't give up on us :)
<12157169>Balthazar Mortis: Make some events PvP, and make some events PvM Bennu - this will solve the problems
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: no thats stupid
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: I should have to be able to only attend half the events
<12410876>Pinkerton: That is pretty harsh ODB
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: shoildnt
<1464013>Freja: I don't think it is that easy Baltazar, we had event outside guard zone before
<12157169>Balthazar Mortis: i dont understand why half and half wont work?
<1464013>Freja: I remember several, where there was fighting but all respected the event and did not loot
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: because I dont pvm, and my chars are orange?
<12410876>Pinkerton: Yer choice
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: yer choice to go play ATL if u want safe tram events
<1464013>Freja: outside Guard Zone, it is fair for all
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: this is Siege damnit
<12410876>Pinkerton: I know that
<12157169>Balthazar Mortis: half & half wont solve all problem, but it will help a lot
<8879783>EM Bennu: We had 1 guardzone event and 3 out...
<8879783>EM Bennu: I dont think having 1 guardzone event in 10 on siege is out of bounds :p
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: the problem with in gz is its EXTREMELY unfair for a few players
<12410876>Pinkerton: These guys do not care about balance
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: while outside is free for all
<12157169>Balthazar Mortis: Bennu, look for the grey area - this is will work for the most part
<1464013>Freja: I still believe the main problem was the war we have going on
<1464013>Freja: I believe only the players of Siege can solve that
<1464013>Freja: some need to be less stubborn :p
<8879783>EM Bennu: Siege is certainly in the middle of a civil war.
<12410876>Pinkerton: *chuckles*
<12157169>Balthazar Mortis: I dont care much weather or not the event is pvp or pvm, the lag is what kills it for me
<1464013>Freja: this civil war sure not make it easier to be an EM here
<12410876>Pinkerton: what civil war? That is such a silly overstatement
<12157169>Balthazar Mortis: The solutin is in the middle ground - some will want all pvp, others want all pvm - make both even
<1464013>Freja: if people had been less stubborn, it had been over long ago
<5488137>sabatina: less stubborn about what
<1464013>Freja: remember I was one who fighted very hard against VvV artifacts
<12410876>Pinkerton: good call
<1464013>Freja: and I did get killed and looted for it too but I reacted different
<12410876>Pinkerton: This is Siege remember
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: trust me you dont want vvv artis here
<5488137>sabatina: so because one guild wants vvv arties and the rest of the shard does not means we are stubborn
<12410876>Pinkerton: *nods*
<1464013>Freja: I sure do
<1464013>Freja: alot want them, we lost so many PvP'ers because of them
<8879783>EM Bennu: I do want to say that I will be incorporating "Siege Chopper 4" in to the next event.
<8879783>EM Bennu: That was hallarious.
<1464013>Freja: only Crafters and PvM'ers survive well
<12410876>Pinkerton: We lost weak PKers
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: ^^
<15141313>etherealman: oh, WB Bennu. Didnt see you pop in
<19634449>Ol'Dirty Basterd: you get vvv arties, u get all of hi-5 here
<1464013>Freja: and?
<8879783>EM Bennu: Just chatting ethereal
<15141313>etherealman: =)
<8879783>EM Bennu: Mesanna was here a few min ago
<15141313>etherealman: yep, I had her over for tea ;p
<8879783>EM Bennu: I do hope this war between hi5 and GIL and whoever else gets settled soon
<1464013>Freja: the VvV artifacs should just be cursed
TLDR: Tell him what you want, give it time.
 
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