Please re-read my post. I stipulated that your opponents that time may have enjoyed themselves. However majority of today's UO population would not in those circumstances. I do not think it's fair, nor it's a wise decision population wise to force them to suffer so that PvPers could enjoy themselves.
Such suffering.... But why stop there? We can end suffering in Trammel too!
Sounds to me like you haven't pvp'd since 2002, pvp has changed a lot since then. Your argument is just pretty lame, ohh pvpers just try to find every advantage to win.... I mean doesn't everyone who is competitive do the same thing in everything they do?? I am sorry you don't like bolas, there a simple solution its called breaking line of sight. All I know is the trammies 12 years ago didn't cry this much about the powerscroll system when reds actually patrolled the spawns on a daily, whereas, most shards are completely dead and you can get off most spawns unnoticed. I guess they were thicker skinned trammies
that weren't afraid of a little pvp!
I never complained about the PvM part of the game being too hard. But nice try attempting to deflect attention from a very lucrative racket PvPers have through limiting access to scrolls. Getting 40M worth of drops from 15 minutes of effort AND getting all those PvMer tears - does not get much better than this, right?
The fact that people actually CAN'T do that (for whatever reason) says otherwise. It's the same in Final Fantasy 14 - the current endgame raiding content there are 4 Legacy Bosses (from FF5), which received a difficulty upgrade in the form of Savage after 2 weeks (normal version was released on July 4th.) I've been stuck on Deltascape Savage's 2nd fight, Catastrophe, for a few weeks now, to the point that I gave up trying to clear it. Is the fight hard? Nope. The healers and tanks keep screwing up and die to easily avoidable mechanics, usually when the boss is around 50% health.
Actually, I didn't. The people I mentioned that leave after one wipe are "pvp'ers", with one of them being well-known for rage-logging when he dies. As far as them dying at spawns, I've repeatedly said the following:
lolwut? 40m worth of drops in 15 minutes? Yeah, if you get lucky and get a few of the more desirable 120's/volume 3 primers. Which isn't guaranteed. You could do several spawns and not see one. Compare that to, say, Shadowguard. You can do the entire thing (rooms + roof) in an hour and make several times what you could at a Champ Spawn, whether from corpse loot or by getting a Cameo. Which is more profitable? Hint: It's not the Champ Spawns.
The last 5 spawns I did I got a total of 2 120's from them, a 120 spellweaving and a 120 archery, zero level three primers, and 2.3 useless skills in pinks. I mean you could earn 40m in a spawn, but I could earn 200m in a 3 minute medusa run.
It's not what they want. They will never admit it, but you can judge by what ideas they support and the ones they hate. You will never hear PvPers asking to completely separate PvMers from PvPers. They want two things:
1) Actually, no it isn't.
Considering pvpers just pvp at yew gate 24/7 against other skilled pvpers, for literally no reason other then to pvp. As a pvper I have zero bias against killing another player whether he is a crafter, miner, pvp god, fisher, or a pirate, I plan on attempting to kill them. Your artifact idea was just a terrible idea maybe that was the reason why no one supported it??? I mean EVERY new content is an artifact reward system, come up with something new.
We don't play on a dead shard.
PVP wise I would classify GL as a dead shard..
Yeah, you do. All shards outside of Atlantic are fairly dead, certainly dead enough to get your own scrolls. I 100% guarantee there are people on your shard that are not pvpers who do spawns, and regularly. The OP is complaining about despise being camped, as if it isn't the easiest and most visited spawn in the game. Might want to put in a little more effort than the very least possible, like hit up deceit, or one of the islh spawns you have to run to a bit.
Gotta admit, I don't remember that. But it definitely sounds like something I'd do.
I do too (LS), and I'm well aware of it. Could I do spawns or Harrowers on Atl and not get raided? More than likely, but I know it wouldn't be very many. I'm in a guild with 2 other people. If someone on Atl decides to raid us (let's say HOT), it'd likely be with AT LEAST 3x our numbers, and we'd lose the spawn for sure. It's just not worth doing them there.
PvP is dead because of some of the attitude of some players who think they're better than most who feel with their trash talk cutting others down makes them feel superior. Seriously lets put the blame where it should be not with Mesanna and crew, not with the trammel players, or with the legit felucca players. Messanna and crew could only do so much adding content is not going to magicially bring players to fel hasn't in the past so why would it now.
He is just a big soft Teddy Bear isn't he.
What has been added to Fel since, well, 2002? VvV? Three new champ spawns, one of which is also in Tram? Shame and Wrong revamp, which are also in Tram? Wow, so enticing. VvV hasn't been touched in 3 years. The Dragon Turtle spawn is virtually untouched in Tram, and it's even less active in Fel.
When is the last time you pvped? The last time we got content in fel, was VVV in the fall of 2014 and activity was really high. Almost every shard had people participating for months after, till basically all the rewards became pointless to farm. I am sure you pvped during that time period, and are an expert on how active VVV was during that time. (probably never even been in a vvv town in your uo career)
I always said I don't pvp, but I was in Factions TB was before VVV was even added to UO I helped guard sigals helped heal others layed down fields to keep the enemy out of the faction base maybe once in awhile cast spells on the enemy. You don't need to be a pvper to have fun in fel. Your right I never did VVV main reason is I was against getting special items when Factions was removed my love for that part of fel died.
VVV was added in 2002 ?
That's literally not what I said.
kinda confused me with What has been added to Fel since, well, 2002? VvV?
i did some despise runs in atl, isn't that hard.
and I don't doubt it. But doing, say, 10 in a row? You'll get raided for sure.
Why should i do 10 in a roll? the year have 365 days 24h each day, 1 coon = 20 min , why don'to you do 10 coons 1 every 2 hours or so?
Lol! Classic!!
Do you feel like he sees into your soul?
no I feel he just repeated the common misconception about PvPers and PKs in particular...Do you feel like he sees into your soul?
I think a lot of the people who complain rarely if ever actually set foot in fel, and are relying on a lot of assumptions. Assumptions like every spawns is camped by reds 24/7, and every spawn will get raided, and pvpers in fel are unbeatable... etc. They have decided though bias rather than through experience that they cannot do something, and are somehow being wronged because of it.
You sure you don't need me to get you a new keyboard.. lately your text has been kinda wonky, all disproportionate in size, or all caps and stuff.
If immature people were the death of pvp... there would only be single player video games.
If there is no monopoly, anybody can do it anytime, anywhere, as much as they want to, it should not make any difference if the scrolls are added to Ilsh, should it? Why are PvPers having such a problem with expanding access to a resource that according to them is already widely accessible?
So you have three options I can see 1. Keep trying to sneak off spawns and get raided, logging off in disgust. 2. Learn to defend your spawn. 3. Stay in tram and farm shadowguard for powerscroll money. Whatever shard your on there is no monopoly you have the same access and the same competition as everyone else on every other shard. So yes the spawning system is widely accessible and you can spawn anytime and as much as you want*
