When Jou'nar discords a tamer, how far down does the tamer's skill go? If a tamer had natural 120's on taming and lore, but also had taming and lore skill jewels on, if that tamer got discorded, would those jewels have any effect on the outcome of the total skills lost to the discord? Would an enchanted apple get rid of the discord effect, and if so, how much time would the tamer have to eat that apple before losing control of his/her pet?