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Felucca Deceit Needs to be open on all Shards!! Protest!!!!

Lord Nabin

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Sounded like a valid answer. You have full access to the content, they made an adjustment so that the Atlantic population could have a similar experience to the one on your shard, baring the risk in fel.

I do not see a problem here. I do not hear any complaining that siege doesn't have tram experience content....
 

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Sounded like a valid answer. You have full access to the content, they made an adjustment so that the Atlantic population could have a similar experience to the one on your shard, baring the risk in fel.

I do not see a problem here. I do not hear any complaining that siege doesn't have tram experience content....
Imagine that, someone whos making rl cash off the game cheerleading for the devs. Your the reason this game has turned to trash and allow the devs to not care about their real customers.
 
Imagine that, someone whos making rl cash off the game cheerleading for the devs. Your the reason this game has turned to trash and allow the devs to not care about their real customers.
You should dial it down a bit he is right you have the exact same content as everyone else. Maybe if you didn't lie to Mesanna at the M&G she take you seriously? try being truthful
 

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Imagine if IDOCs were only on on atl and no other shard. Its literally the same thing. Someone just due to population gets to do content that other shards dont get to do. Last time I checked I pay the same 10 bucks a month that the atl players do, why should I be treated differently! Seems Shardist to me, no different then racism or sexism.
 
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When did the majority of paying customers want to play on fel? Maybe I missed something. I thought the reason Power Scrolls were Fel only was to encourage the majority of paying customers to play there.
the 'majority' shouldn't have to want to play in fel, the ones that do enjoy it, should be able to.
 

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Imagine that, someone whos making rl cash off the game cheerleading for the devs. Your the reason this game has turned to trash and allow the devs to not care about their real customers.
Uhm sorry but no.
 

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the 'majority' shouldn't have to want to play in fel, the ones that do enjoy it, should be able to.
No I agree, it is just the risk and reward incentive they put in place like additional luck bonus and resource bonuses.
 
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Lord Nabin

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Imagine if IDOCs were only on on atl and no other shard. Its literally the same thing. Someone just due to population gets to do content that other shards dont get to do. Last time I checked I pay the same 10 bucks a month that the atl players do, why should I be treated differently! Seems Shardist to me, no different then racism or sexism.
But they are not. They are indeed on all shards available for anyone to enjoy. Kind of like the content you are complaining about.

You are not being discriminated against they are addressing a need for a larger population so that everyone can enjoy more balances opportunity.

In reality it's so the Atlantic players can enjoy the same experience you can on your shard.

*checks his telescope one more time to verify his findings*

*scribbles in his notes*

Yep, as I theoriesed, Sosaria doesn't revolve around Great DC. :tinhat:
 

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Then both of you are wrong. PvP happens on other shards just not 24 hours a day. Look at VS. if you see scrolls they were gotten in Fel. Lots of scrolls mean there is PvP there. Don't put LS in the same sentence as Baja and Origin. Worlds apart. We would use Fel Deceit for the event. We use it without. Niera is one of the easy spawns.
Except were not wrong.

LS isn't dead like some shards, but it's not high activity either. I've played almost every North American shard at one point or another.

Just because there are PS for sale on vs doesn't mean there is pvp. People farm champs on these lower activity shards.

Once again, atlantic is the only shard busy enough to justify turning the event on in fel. I'd bet there are more blues in fel atlantic than tram deciet on most other shards
 

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It would cost them nothing to turn this on in Fel for all shards, but it would gain them so much goodwill from players. It's clear only Atlantic really matters and I can't see things improving once they make their 'New Legacy' shard. Mesanna more and more reminds me of the Grinch with Cindy-Lou's Christmas tree, she pretends something is being removed for one reason but then it turns out it's another and you're not getting it back, like with the Healing belt. Of course I suppose the 24/7 scripters already claimed theirs, nothing shady here....
 

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It would cost them nothing to turn this on in Fel for all shards, but it would gain them so much goodwill from players. It's clear only Atlantic really matters and I can't see things improving once they make their 'New Legacy' shard. Mesanna more and more reminds me of the Grinch with Cindy-Lou's Christmas tree, she pretends something is being removed for one reason but then it turns out it's another and you're not getting it back, like with the Healing belt. Of course I suppose the 24/7 scripters already claimed theirs, nothing shady here....
The healing belt was removed because it didn't have the heal bonus on it. My guess is they're not sure why that item property isn't displaying.

You don't need to script this event. The drops are plentiful as it is.
 

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If you want to play in fel deceit, just transfer your char to Atlantic???
And stop farming your crappy low skill, low pop shard maybe?

I think the argument that only farmers want the event open on fel on dead shards sounds valid to me.
 
If you want to play in fel deceit, just transfer your char to Atlantic???
And stop farming your crappy low skill, low pop shard maybe?

I think the argument that only farmers want the event open on fel on dead shards sounds valid to me.
I totally agree the people that want the event on all shards are not PvPers they are just looking to quickly farm up the items on all the dead shards they play so they can raid some newbies champ spawns then log off.
 

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I have a full list of chars on atlantic, as well as chessy, ls, pac, sonoma, legends, catskills, great lakes, napa. It would be nice if i could obtain the drops I need for those chars on all the shards. But since fel isnt open everywhere itll be basically impossible. Shard bound items has no reason to farmed except on atlantic, so that argument is moronic. Only atlanitc people get to farm it nonstop to make gold but everyone gets the shaft, lol, literally the dumbest retort to a question. I want a refund of my month this is active since I get half the content. Ive been in tram deceit non-stop since this started and only got 4 ssi shoulders for my 4 dexxers there, itll take two more weeks to do one more shard. How am I to get the remaining pieces I need for myself on the other 7 shards I play. Its completely ridiculous how every shard is being screwed other then atlantic!!!
 

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Except were not wrong.

LS isn't dead like some shards, but it's not high activity either. I've played almost every North American shard at one point or another.

Just because there are PS for sale on vs doesn't mean there is pvp. People farm champs on these lower activity shards.

Once again, atlantic is the only shard busy enough to justify turning the event on in fel. I'd bet there are more blues in fel atlantic than tram deciet on most other shards
Literally everything you said is false. You have no idea how many people are farming this on LS, much less any other shard. Ive been to deceit in fel on atlantic and there is half as many in fel there that we have in tram non stop everyday.
 

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I have a full list of chars on atlantic, as well as chessy, ls, pac, sonoma, legends, catskills, great lakes, napa. It would be nice if i could obtain the drops I need for those chars on all the shards. But since fel isnt open everywhere itll be basically impossible. Shard bound items has no reason to farmed except on atlantic, so that argument is moronic. Only atlanitc people get to farm it nonstop to make gold but everyone gets the shaft, lol, literally the dumbest retort to a question. I want a refund of my month this is active since I get half the content. Ive been in tram deceit non-stop since this started and only got 4 ssi shoulders for my 4 dexxers there, itll take two more weeks to do one more shard. How am I to get the remaining pieces I need for myself on the other 7 shards I play. Its completely ridiculous how every shard is being screwed other then atlantic!!!
*does a quick calculation* Sounds like you got your moneys worth for your monthly sub and then some.
 

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You're being ridiculous.

This is their first time releasing a worldwide event using their new tools.

Just be patient. Events will get progressively more in-tune to what the community at large wants, while being balanced hopefully for power creep, etc.

We may disagree with the Shard Bound , or the fact they wanted to babystep with rolling it out to Fel, but if you want to get an actual live test on 'how will a similiar event turn out with PVP allowed?' Atlantic is the shard you'd want to collect that data on.

That's just the reality. They're giving you more content, and clearly putting work into TRYING.


Lighten up, realize what's going on, and don't contribute to a negative narrative that doesn't do anything helpful.

They have what? 6 people? Find the guy who owns Broadsword on Linkedin, Facebook, etc, and let him know your thoughts on resources being invested into UO. They're understaffed, and realistically only 1 of them knows how to poke his head around the spaghetti that is UO coding.
 

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You're being ridiculous.

This is their first time releasing a worldwide event using their new tools.

Just be patient. Events will get progressively more in-tune to what the community at large wants, while being balanced hopefully for power creep, etc.

We may disagree with the Shard Bound , or the fact they wanted to babystep with rolling it out to Fel, but if you want to get an actual live test on 'how will a similiar event turn out with PVP allowed?' Atlantic is the shard you'd want to collect that data on.

That's just the reality. They're giving you more content, and clearly putting work into TRYING.


Lighten up, realize what's going on, and don't contribute to a negative narrative that doesn't do anything helpful.

They have what? 6 people? Find the guy who owns Broadsword on Linkedin, Facebook, etc, and let him know your thoughts on resources being invested into UO. They're understaffed, and realistically only 1 of them knows how to poke his head around the spaghetti that is UO coding.
Sorry but LS is busy, there are few Mobs to kill. We just want a place to kill stuff at a rate like the other small shards.

Let the Black Gate spawn drop the arties!
 

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At that point they should just turn off all the others shards and just keep Atlantic shard running, that is how I see it
 

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Everyone not on atlantic should get a free 30 day time code from the team to make up the lack of content!
um u still get the content ur arent losing out on anything except pvp in deceit which im sure if u go to fel deceit and start up the champ spawn someone will be along promptly to kill u. She said the population on atlantic was so high that they had to open the fel side to deal with the problem. Other shards dont have as high of a population as atlantic and opening a fel side would only serve a few people and would more then likely just get abused. Calling for someone to be fired over a decision they make thats not even a game breaking decision is stupid as hell. Then saying u deserve free game time for not playing on atlantic is just ridiculous also the fact that u stated in a previous post that u play on multiple shards atlantic included means u wouldnt be eligible for the free game time anyway. Play the game have fun stop complaining and enjoy the event.
 
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What would be the downside of opening it up on fel? Cant really script due to PvP and paragons. Rewards are shard bound, why farm what ya cant sell. Do tell me the problem with fel event on all shards.
 

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What would be the downside of opening it up on fel? Cant really script due to PvP and paragons. Rewards are shard bound, why farm what ya cant sell. Do tell me the problem with fel event on all shards.
Wait you can't script in Fel do to pvp? You mean all those thousands upon thousands of complaints I've read over the last 20+ years in those drama threads are all lies.

Dang, I feel wronged.:shots:
 

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I wanna see ya script with the paragons along with the PvP crowd Lord Noobin. Lets see how good your scripts are, lol
 

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I wanna see ya script with the paragons along with the PvP crowd Lord Noobin. Lets see how good your scripts are, lol
Oh I could never figure that out friend, I sure have seen a whole lot of people complaining about scripting during PVP, and Champs, etc.

Thanks for giving me a good laugh it was pretty funny. lol
 

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Dude, were talking about opening the event up in fel, not champ spawns or PvP. You are comparing apples to oranges. You say it can be scripted, lets see it. But the real question is why would I do it on a "dead" server if I cant sell the rewards? But good for you on on upping your post count. LOL
 

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Dude, were talking about opening the event up in fel, not champ spawns or PvP. You are comparing apples to oranges. You say it can be scripted, lets see it. But the real question is why would I do it on a "dead" server if I cant sell the rewards? But good for you on on upping your post count. LOL
lol Hey I am just commenting on your quote. " Cant really script due to PvP and paragons. " that I have seen decades of complaints about scripting for PVP, champs, dungeons, etc in Fel for decades now. This is absolutely no different.

As to the, why would anyone since things are shard bound? that's up to them. The rewards can still be sold. They are not account bound. Just shard bound. Plenty of people complaining right now they need X on X shard because they have characters everywhere and need items. Sounds to me like a market could be made on all the shards for these items. Lots of EM players out there with characters on every shard for example.
 

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I don't know what folks are talking about. Every time I sneak off to Fel Deceit on Atlantic the place is empty. I have only seen one person there lol.

Granted my Trammy arse does not do that during "prime-time'...
 

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I don't know what folks are talking about. Every time I sneak off to Fel Deceit on Atlantic the place is empty. I have only seen one person there lol.

Granted my Trammy arse does not do that during "prime-time'...
I'm going with.

I made life choices and my character is red. Now I can't get into tram and do the event with my prime character so I'm sad about it.

Followed with from the other thread.

Fricken Trammie whiners of course its fine power scrolls are Fel only. Its your choice not to come here......

Choices have consequences and that's fine. Way to much to do in game to complain much about choices.
 

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um u still get the content ur arent losing out on anything except pvp in deceit which im sure if u go to fel deceit and start up the champ spawn someone will be along promptly to kill u. She said the population on atlantic was so high that they had to open the fel side to deal with the problem. Other shards dont have as high of a population as atlantic and opening a fel side would only serve a few people and would more then likely just get abused. Calling for someone to be fired over a decision they make thats not even a game breaking decision is stupid as hell. Then saying u deserve free game time for not playing on atlantic is just ridiculous also the fact that u stated in a previous post that u play on multiple shards atlantic included means u wouldnt be eligible for the free game time anyway. Play the game have fun stop complaining and enjoy the event.
Why do you keep posting lies and nonsense. Theres is literally no reason to not up fel up. It cant be scripted like people say it can, even if someone ran 10 chars down to farm it, it wouldnt literally do them no good cause they are shard bound. What it will do is open up the chance for people who play multiple shards daily to get the rewards they want for their own chars.

By the way the only thing Ive seen in trammel is constant luring of paragons, people sitting in rooms with multiple chars. Both of these things would only occur in trammel, in fel the people would be policed by other players. There is literally too many people on ls and chessy that I have tried to get rewards on. Iran from top to bottom killing everything that was up 4 times on chessy and only got 3 drops. Thats how little spawn there is compared to players doing it. Its obsurd to not open the fel side. Also the worst business decision Ive seen since enron.
 

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Why do you keep posting lies and nonsense. Theres is literally no reason to not up fel up. It cant be scripted like people say it can, even if someone ran 10 chars down to farm it, it wouldnt literally do them no good cause they are shard bound. What it will do is open up the chance for people who play multiple shards daily to get the rewards they want for their own chars.

By the way the only thing Ive seen in trammel is constant luring of paragons, people sitting in rooms with multiple chars. Both of these things would only occur in trammel, in fel the people would be policed by other players. There is literally too many people on ls and chessy that I have tried to get rewards on. Iran from top to bottom killing everything that was up 4 times on chessy and only got 3 drops. Thats how little spawn there is compared to players doing it. Its obsurd to not open the fel side. Also the worst business decision Ive seen since enron.
i play on chessy and i've had no problem getting drops im well over 100 drops and thats surprising considering how lil i was even down there. This is during the busy hours for the shard too 6pm est till like 11pm ish. Maybe the problem is ur spreading urself too thin tring to participate in the event on too many shards at 1 time or maybe ur hitting shards at their busiest times. I went down in deceit the 1 day at like 5pm and there was maybe 1 other person down there.
 

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Wait you can't script in Fel do to pvp? You mean all those thousands upon thousands of complaints I've read over the last 20+ years in those drama threads are all lies.

Dang, I feel wronged.:shots:
Still waiting to hear how you are going to unattended script the event in Fel. Spawn and playerbase will wipe your ass. Again, we are talking about opening up the event in fel on all shards. Not attended PvP with scripts. I asked for the downside and you come back with babble. Show us oh wise one...video your awesome scripting abilities. Still don't see the reasons opening it up game wide. What would it hurt? How would it ruin your gameplay? Some people do like playing red. Some like the risk. And as for farming smaller shards to sell, sell to who? They are shard bound. The event is boring enough at this point, bring on more options.

You are wronged....
 

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Still waiting to hear how you are going to unattended script the event in Fel. Spawn and playerbase will wipe your ass. Again, we are talking about opening up the event in fel on all shards. Not attended PvP with scripts. I asked for the downside and you come back with babble. Show us oh wise one...video your awesome scripting abilities. Still don't see the reasons opening it up game wide. What would it hurt? How would it ruin your gameplay? Some people do like playing red. Some like the risk. And as for farming smaller shards to sell, sell to who? They are shard bound. The event is boring enough at this point, bring on more options.

You are wronged....
Your assertion that the event should be launched in Fel because scripts can not be used is a load of crap and you know it.
 

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Your assertion on how people want to play is a load of crap. I am so glad you speak for all UO players in how and where we would like to play. On top of your many talents, you are now a mind reader and a true UO god. SMH
 

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I have watched Craig on his youtube video posting his 1 hour in fel deceit on atlantic : he got 65 arties with glorious potion in 59 minutes chrono.(ive seen some players get 70+ in one hour)
In the meanwhile I am farming on a similar sampire on Catskills trammel , and my best hour was 18 arties in 1 hour.
*(Note : do not watch Craig's video if you play another shard than atlantic or it might make you a little bit frustated, at how unfair it is not to mention he can get powerscrolls, pinks, champ artifacts and masteries worth millions at the same time)

Now my question is, do you think that it's fair for other shards players? Absolutly not.
Kyronix based his choice to turn off others shards in fel, because of the low participation on Origin fel when it got released for testing : who is going to test in felucca the spawn on Origin when its not their main shard first of all, and they are probably solo and testing the event? No one is even going to bother test in fel a champ spawn that cant be soloed comon Kyronix.
 
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They are doing the champ spawn also so there are 5x more mobs. Luck has nothing to do with it. Killing tons of easy mobs does.
So the DEvs created an EXPLOIT by allowing this event in Fel? Great! If this event is going to be in Fel then they should disable the champ spawn temporarily, reason says, no?
Doing this in Fel at all is not a balanced event as it appears..No wonder people say they get 100 drops in a very short period of time. They likely do it in Fel Atl doing minor spawn of the champ, while the rest of us are doing Paragon PE, Para Liches, Rams etc?:devil:

**Then hides under a table and plugs ears to avoid the rotten vegies and curses**
 

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You're being ridiculous.

This is their first time releasing a worldwide event using their new tools.

Just be patient. Events will get progressively more in-tune to what the community at large wants, while being balanced hopefully for power creep, etc.
i don’t think it should be turned on in front for all shard, but I’m still going to disagree with you on this part. This team is poorly managed and they have used up all of the community‘s patience. They don’t deserve any further “just be patient“ credits from the player base.
 

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I think that turning on an event on a champ boss location was a mistake, that I am sure they will remedy in the future. At least there is a good probability of that, since I am sure they by now have many complaints about it.
Obvious generation of an exploit of sorts to get gobs of minor spawn and gobs of drops. They could have disabled the champ spawn for the duration of this event, that would be one solution. The other one that would need some coding would be to make the champ spawn especially hard, and with no minor spawn, all paragon Poison Elies or Paragon LL or other nastiness. Or take the champ floor out of the event. So no drops there. But that would take a lot of coding. Easiest would be to just disable the champ. Even easier than this would be to not have the event on Fel at all anywhere, so there would be no exploit of sorts, and no complaints.
Also they could have bumped up the drop rate anywhere a little bit so all players would benefit, not just sampires and paladins.
Also fix the damn bandaid belt, probably one the more useful items they messed up and put it back on the rewards.
Mistakes do happen and they will happen. This is new, thanks to their new event implementation engine. At least there is new content. And greed and impatience does not help anyone in the long run. Just have fun..
 

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I think people complaining about the fel side being turned on are forgetting one important point. This event is actually fun on the fel side. Because of the fel rule set it is not simply running around saying mine mine mine. It's not just repetitive nonsense. When fel is thrown a bone people do play it. Despite pks and and pvp the drop rate is still much better than in the baby lands as it should be. Everybody wins. FEL players have action and pvmers can choose whichever facet they want.
 

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It's shocking to me that after twenty years people still feel compelled to insult people who play in Trammel by calling them babies, carebears, etc etc. It's the MMO equivalent of still talking about high school.
At least there weren't any Mom jokes thrown about.
 

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"You're momma so ugly she got turned down by both heads of an Ettin."

"You're momma so dumb she threw her marked rune into the sky thinking the Moon would open a gate."

"You're momma so stupid she thought Blackthorn was a kind of eyeliner."

"You're momma so dumb when she was born even the Goblinz say they lost."
(This last one is kind of Chesapeake specific.)
 

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"You're momma so ugly she got turned down by both heads of an Ettin."

"You're momma so dumb she threw her marked rune into the sky thinking the Moon would open a gate."

"You're momma so stupid she thought Blackthorn was a kind of eyeliner."

"You're momma so dumb when she was born even the Goblinz say they lost."
(This last one is kind of Chesapeake specific.)
Not UO related but....

Your momma so ugly the world fabricated a pandemic to get her to wear a mask.
 
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